Mighty Intellect
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May 1st, 2008, 12:43 AM
'Provocative' Clinton angers Iran
Tehran has complained to the UN about remarks made last week by Hillary Clinton on the circumstances under which the US might attack Iran.
The Democratic presidential hopeful said last week the US could "totally obliterate" Iran if it attacked Israel.
Tehran, which insists its nuclear programme is solely for power generation, denounced her words as "provocative and irresponsible".
It said the remarks were "a flagrant violation" of the UN Charter.
.......... Tehran is facing tougher UN sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.
The US fears Iran is trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and could use them against Israel.
Iran insists its nuclear programme is solely for power generation.
Full article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7376741.stm
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Let me get this straight!!: IF Iran attacks Israel, then the United States will "obliterate" Iran in return!!
Result: Two countries would be obliterated.... Israel by Iran - Iran by US!
'Provocative' Clinton angers Iran
Tehran has complained to the UN about remarks made last week by Hillary Clinton on the circumstances under which the US might attack Iran.
The Democratic presidential hopeful said last week the US could "totally obliterate" Iran if it attacked Israel.
Tehran, which insists its nuclear programme is solely for power generation, denounced her words as "provocative and irresponsible".
It said the remarks were "a flagrant violation" of the UN Charter.
.......... Tehran is facing tougher UN sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.
The US fears Iran is trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and could use them against Israel.
Iran insists its nuclear programme is solely for power generation.
Full article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7376741.stm
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Let me get this straight!!: IF Iran attacks Israel, then the United States will "obliterate" Iran in return!!
Result: Two countries would be obliterated.... Israel by Iran - Iran by US!
Dark Overlord
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May 1st, 2008, 01:22 AM
Quoting Scott Free
And the US would do the same to Russia. If that happened, there wouldn't be very many people left to pick up the pieces of the human race.
I think Russia would make good on its threat and obliterate the USA.
Genius
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May 1st, 2008, 01:41 AM
Quoting shadowshiv
Actually they wouldn't. There is a report from the Department of Homeland Defense which outlines the perils of a first strike HEMP (High-altitude ElectroMagnetic Pulse) attack. During the cold war days you would have been correct but since then the USA has been cutting costs by purchasing "off the shelf" electronics instead of making their own properly shielded equipment. The DOD states that determining who even launched the attack would be impossible as would any retaliation due to system vulnerabilities.
And the US would do the same to Russia. If that happened, there wouldn't be very many people left to pick up the pieces of the human race.
Dark Overlord
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May 1st, 2008, 01:46 AM
Of course, I would rather not find out either way.
Quoting Scott Free
You may be correct, but I doubt that they would make every weapon that they have known to the general public.
Actually they wouldn't. There is a report from the Department of Homeland Defense which outlines the perils of a first strike HEMP (High-altitude ElectroMagnetic Pulse) attack. During the cold war days you would have been correct but since then the USA has been cutting costs by purchasing "off the shelf" electronics instead of making their own properly shielded equipment. The DOD states that determining who even launched the attack would be impossible as would any retaliation due to system vulnerabilities.
Of course, I would rather not find out either way.
Genius
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May 1st, 2008, 01:51 AM
Anyway, I agree, such things are best left untested.
Quoting shadowshiv
I'm not sure if it was made public.
You may be correct, but I doubt that they would make every weapon that they have known to the general public.
Of course, I would rather not find out either way.
Of course, I would rather not find out either way.
Anyway, I agree, such things are best left untested.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
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May 1st, 2008, 07:45 AM
YoungJoonKim
Yes and it's telling that the neighborhood bully is still the gang that's threatening war and rattiling its sabers. The people of the u.s are fond of drawing lines and building "camps" if it isn't the issue of "race" or "gender" or "religion" or "politics" it's breathing life into the cowboy image of the tough gunslinger out to "set things right"...Oy Vey! Andt now ve watch as Israel nudges the world close to Armageddon...if only in the mind of one of the "Democratic" candidates....
Too bad someone doesn't nuke America before any of the current lunatics take office and embroil the world in it's potentially last "stand" on the right to not-admit to its guilt and failure as the "peace-broker".
I'd suggest putting Americans on the endangered list given that they pine for war and will for any number of ridiculous reasons will likely achieve that "end".
YoungJoonKim
Yes and it's telling that the neighborhood bully is still the gang that's threatening war and rattiling its sabers. The people of the u.s are fond of drawing lines and building "camps" if it isn't the issue of "race" or "gender" or "religion" or "politics" it's breathing life into the cowboy image of the tough gunslinger out to "set things right"...Oy Vey! Andt now ve watch as Israel nudges the world close to Armageddon...if only in the mind of one of the "Democratic" candidates....
Too bad someone doesn't nuke America before any of the current lunatics take office and embroil the world in it's potentially last "stand" on the right to not-admit to its guilt and failure as the "peace-broker".
I'd suggest putting Americans on the endangered list given that they pine for war and will for any number of ridiculous reasons will likely achieve that "end".
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May 1st, 2008, 08:02 AM
Now that put the fox among the chickens............
Quoting Scott Free
I guess that means we had best get on board with missile defense, eh?
I think Russia would make good on its threat and obliterate the USA.
Now that put the fox among the chickens............
Mass'Debater
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May 1st, 2008, 08:39 AM
Gotta love that.... people get all upity and freak out when Iran claims they would wipe Israel off the map if they were attacked, and then Clinton.... not even the president yet, starts shooting her own mouth about obliterating Iran if they attacked Israel........
Does anybody see any hypocracy in the mentality of these idiots.... Clinton esspecially?
I mean we all point our fingers and stick our noses up at Iran for things they said and things they claim they might do.... but then our so-called "Western/More Civilized" leaders just go and do the exact same damn thing, proving they're no better.
I honestly can't tell anymore if the US election is one big joke or one big scam on the population of the US.... maybe it's both, but yet another prime example of no matter who they vote for as their next president, nothing's going to change down there anytime soon.
Gotta love that.... people get all upity and freak out when Iran claims they would wipe Israel off the map if they were attacked, and then Clinton.... not even the president yet, starts shooting her own mouth about obliterating Iran if they attacked Israel........
Does anybody see any hypocracy in the mentality of these idiots.... Clinton esspecially?
I mean we all point our fingers and stick our noses up at Iran for things they said and things they claim they might do.... but then our so-called "Western/More Civilized" leaders just go and do the exact same damn thing, proving they're no better.
I honestly can't tell anymore if the US election is one big joke or one big scam on the population of the US.... maybe it's both, but yet another prime example of no matter who they vote for as their next president, nothing's going to change down there anytime soon.
Mass'Debater
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May 1st, 2008, 08:44 AM
And you want us to jump into this mess and be a target of this continual nuclear holocaust?
Screw that, I'll get into my bunker and food, along with my radiation suit and let them kill each other all off.... let God sort it out as they say.
What do you think Canada will do if/when this all starts?
"Whoa Dudes, I think yer all gett'n a little out of hand, don'cha know? Maybe we should all just sit down and have a few beers eh?"
Boom, we're nuked by the US because they always wanted to do it and we interupted their fun and then everything continues.
Quoting Colpy
Ok.... so Israel attacks Syria, Israel talks about attacking Iran, Iran talks about attacking Israel if they're attacked by Israel, then the US comes along and says they'll attack Iran if Iran attacks Israel, and then Russia will attack the US if the US attacks Iran, then the US attacks Russia because Russia attacked them, then China attacks the US because they attacked Iran and Russia, then the UK attacks China because China attacked the US, then by that time, North Korea will have their nukes back up and nuke the UK for attacking China.......
I guess that means we had best get on board with missile defense, eh?
Now that put the fox among the chickens............
Now that put the fox among the chickens............
And you want us to jump into this mess and be a target of this continual nuclear holocaust?
Screw that, I'll get into my bunker and food, along with my radiation suit and let them kill each other all off.... let God sort it out as they say.
What do you think Canada will do if/when this all starts?
"Whoa Dudes, I think yer all gett'n a little out of hand, don'cha know? Maybe we should all just sit down and have a few beers eh?"
Boom, we're nuked by the US because they always wanted to do it and we interupted their fun and then everything continues.
Mighty Intellect
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May 1st, 2008, 09:00 AM
In my opinion Mrs. Clinton made a very, very stupid remark!!! She is just as vengeful and bloodthirsty as the Neo-con gang. I always thought she had brains and self-discipline. Let's hope someone will explain to her the blunder she just committed.
In my opinion Mrs. Clinton made a very, very stupid remark!!! She is just as vengeful and bloodthirsty as the Neo-con gang. I always thought she had brains and self-discipline. Let's hope someone will explain to her the blunder she just committed.
Genius
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May 1st, 2008, 09:15 AM
Under Bush's publicly spoken policy the US will attack anybody even if Israel starts the conflict.
That wouldn't be any different under any President, and the fact of the matter is, if you don't publicly state that kind of support for Israel you have a 0% chance of being set-up in the WH, Obama would, and probably has, say the exact same thing.
As for hiding out in a shelter, just how many thousands of years would you plan on staying down there? If you came out any earlier there is still going to be radiation (assuming a lot of nukes get tossed around) so that could kill you even before you had any new children. If you were to have children your first question would be the same as Iraqi women ask today, it isn't is a a boy or a girl, the question is always "Is it normal?"
Under Bush's publicly spoken policy the US will attack anybody even if Israel starts the conflict.
That wouldn't be any different under any President, and the fact of the matter is, if you don't publicly state that kind of support for Israel you have a 0% chance of being set-up in the WH, Obama would, and probably has, say the exact same thing.
As for hiding out in a shelter, just how many thousands of years would you plan on staying down there? If you came out any earlier there is still going to be radiation (assuming a lot of nukes get tossed around) so that could kill you even before you had any new children. If you were to have children your first question would be the same as Iraqi women ask today, it isn't is a a boy or a girl, the question is always "Is it normal?"
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May 1st, 2008, 09:45 AM
Quoting dancing-loon
It only sounds stupid to us DL because we assume ethics to be cardinal values accross the human spectrum. This is not reality but only the base mass perspective projected on the citizenry by the machine. Mrs Clinton knows far better than we who rules the planet. She made no blunder she paid the masters thier due. It's not that she is just as bloodthirsty as the neo-cons, she is a neo-con. Non of the present candidates are but the thickness of a cigarrette paper different from each other and it makes only that much difference to the financiers of the planet who the commoners elect for they own each one of them. She's a psycopathic piece of dirt who is ready to murder millions for the bankers, each of the candidates are total stooges devoid of any integrity whatever.
In my opinion Mrs. Clinton made a very, very stupid remark!!! She is just as vengeful and bloodthirsty as the Neo-con gang. I always thought she had brains and self-discipline. Let's hope someone will explain to her the blunder she just committed.
Genius
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May 1st, 2008, 10:16 AM
It is very silly for any Canadian to support that diabolical system.
Quoting Colpy
The goal of missile defense is to shoot down missiles over that great buffer zone between the USA and the rest of the world: Canada.
I guess that means we had best get on board with missile defense, eh?
Now that put the fox among the chickens............
Now that put the fox among the chickens............
It is very silly for any Canadian to support that diabolical system.
Mighty Intellect
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May 1st, 2008, 10:29 AM
Hi, Beaver;
some years ago I read that Mrs. Clinton is half-jewish. If that fact has anything to do with her fervor to defend and revenge Israel I wouldn't know.
Yes, I did expect more human compassion from her. If one nation gets obliterated WHY obliterate another one in return??? Where is the love of humanity, the care for all the little children who will be obliterated as well?? That lack of human quality in her disappoints me!! Especially being a woman who by nature is a nurturer, has softer feelings, is overall more compassionate and kind... she could turn the world around, she could make a difference!!! Yet, she blows her opportunity by trying to hold it with the big guys, be as ruthless and tough as they are.
Beaver, I do know... have read who dictates the foreign policies in the White House, but still... one day that has to stop. The American people have to take back their power and their dignity.
Hi, Beaver;
some years ago I read that Mrs. Clinton is half-jewish. If that fact has anything to do with her fervor to defend and revenge Israel I wouldn't know.
Yes, I did expect more human compassion from her. If one nation gets obliterated WHY obliterate another one in return??? Where is the love of humanity, the care for all the little children who will be obliterated as well?? That lack of human quality in her disappoints me!! Especially being a woman who by nature is a nurturer, has softer feelings, is overall more compassionate and kind... she could turn the world around, she could make a difference!!! Yet, she blows her opportunity by trying to hold it with the big guys, be as ruthless and tough as they are.
Beaver, I do know... have read who dictates the foreign policies in the White House, but still... one day that has to stop. The American people have to take back their power and their dignity.
