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CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I'd rather that consensus any day of the week. One fella who thinks AGW is happening, another who doesn't. Consensus that we need to change our practices. No science involved either, no rhetoric. Cheers to common sense Bear.

Since I'm just a troll...

The AGW theory is just leftoid socialist Bullshyte. Made up to enslave the masses of uneducated and help formulate the new world order through credit schemes and forced weath transfer!!!
 
Tonington
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#212
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

The AGW theory is just leftoid socialist Bullshyte. Made up to enslave the masses of uneducated and help formulate the new world order through credit schemes and forced weath transfer!!!

The AGW deniers are radical right wing fascists, promoting the continued subjugation of poor nations through economic and corporate imperialism. The deniers are pawns of the Oil industry selling out to political interests to continue the authoritarian movement to control the common people and to maintain the economic prosperity enjoyed by few at the behest of the many.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

The AGW deniers are radical right wing fascists, promoting the continued subjugation of poor nations through economic and corporate imperialism. The deniers are pawns of the Oil industry selling out to political interests to continue the authoritarian movement to control the common people and to maintain the economic prosperity enjoyed by few at the behest of the many.

So!!!???

Big biz is the muscles of the world, the oil is their blood, if we cut off the use of the oil, the whole thing comes to a communist halt.

I'ld rather be cooked by the sun and GHG's then be subjected to the socialists new world order!!!

Long live the SUV!!! Give me Hummers or give me death!!!
 
Tonington
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#214
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

So!!!???

Big biz is the muscles of the world, the oil is their blood, if we cut off the use of the oil, the whole thing comes to a communist halt.

I'ld rather be cooked by the sun and GHG's then be subjected to the socialists new world order!!!

Long live the SUV!!! Give me Hummers or give me death!!!

Ahh, a pawn to the bitter end. Be sure to tuck your extremities in when the gears of the machine start to grind ever faster.

You won't get death on that road, but hopefully you can drive without your arms and legs. When the blood oil runs dry you will serve as adequate fuel to feed the industrial monster.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Ahh, a pawn to the bitter end. Be sure to tuck your extremities in when the gears of the machine start to grind ever faster.

You won't get death on that road, but hopefully you can drive without your arms and legs. When the blood oil runs dry you will serve as adequate fuel to feed the industrial monster.

Oh puuuleeze, oil isn't in short supply, it's a renewable resource like trees. The myth that it's running out and the byproduct of decaying dino's is as old and ridiculous as those that once claimed brontosauras' had two brains.
It's value is grossly over rated and stretched by market manipulation, just a Debeors does with the diamond market.

Strawmen burn in the light of day you know.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Oh puuuleeze, oil isn't in short supply, it's a renewable resource like trees. The myth that it's running out and the byproduct of decaying dino's is as old and ridiculous as those that once claimed brontosauras' had two brains.
It's value is grossly over rated and stretched by market manipulation, just a Debeors does with the diamond market.

Strawmen burn in the light of day you know.

I guess an oil shill would know....

True free enterprise has no monopolies, at least without the help of a corrupt regime. The oil industry can't gouge us with prices without government support. The government is in the pockets of Big oil, of course they will tell you that oil won't run out. They've been keeping the electric car locked up for years, until the oil is gone.

Seriously I don't know how much longer i can keep this up
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I guess an oil shill would know....

True free enterprise has no monopolies, at least without the help of a corrupt regime. The oil industry can't gouge us with prices without government support. The government is in the pockets of Big oil, of course they will tell you that oil won't run out. They've been keeping the electric car locked up for years, until the oil is gone.

The last line of defence, you don't believe in the AGW theory, you must be an oil exec or shill.

Good call, I've been on Exxons payroll for years, or is that I've supported Exxons payroll for years.

Electric cars are a fad, give me a break, they are as useful as teats on a bull. Next you'll be telling me all about the big oil conspiracy to hide the car that runs on water.
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Seriously I don't know how much longer i can keep this up

Suck it up buttercup. If I can pull watch all night after drinking my ass off, only to make sure the ugly masses of terrorists don't sneek in and kill us all, you can keep up the charade. lamo.
 
I think not
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#218
From day one, I have enjoyed every single post Tonington has made, whether or not I agree with him, he has the ability of conveying his thoughts respectfully. Keep it up Tonington.
 
#juan
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Electric cars are a fad, give me a break, they are as useful as teats on a bull.

Electric cars will kill the internal combustion powered car one day soon.

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s243a
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Electric cars will kill the internal combustion powered car one day soon.

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That actually sounds pretty good
"The trick? The Tesla Roadster is powered by 6,831 rechargeable lithium-ion batteries – the same cells that run a laptop computer. Range: 250 miles. Fuel efficiency: 1 to 2 cents per mile. Top speed: more than 130 mph. The first cars will be built at a factory in England and are slated to hit the market next summer. And Tesla Motors, Eberhard’s company, is already gearing up for a four-door battery-powered sedan."

But do the batteries keep that performance as they age? How many times can they be recharged? How does cold temperature effect battery performance? What does the car cost?
 
#juan
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Tesla Motors have been working on this for a few years now. I don't think batteries will be the big problem. They have to get some vehicles on the road and get some miles on them. Most of all, they have to get the cost down..
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Tesla Motors have been working on this for a few years now. I don't think batteries will be the big problem. They have to get some vehicles on the road and get some miles on them. Most of all, they have to get the cost down..

How much trunk room do you get?
 
Tonington
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Thanks for the kind words ITN.

Heh, Bear I don't have the mindset to continue the position I took. Good thing too, because it doesn't look like I'd make a very good radical lefty, if there even is such a thing as good radical anything...
 
hermanntrude
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Quote: Originally Posted by I think notView Post

From day one, I have enjoyed every single post Tonington has made, whether or not I agree with him, he has the ability of conveying his thoughts respectfully. Keep it up Tonington.

hear hear.
 
Tonington
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Thanks to you too Hermann. Cheers
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

So say you Ton, there's about a billion people out there that would totally dissagree with you.

Seeing as the pro AGW crowd seems to use numbers (of scientists on the Koolaid junket) to bolster their position.

Then in the case of God, the numbers merit respect.

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probably the dumbest thing you've ever written

Care to prove that? Or just hide in the dark?
 
Curiosity
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There a number of serious issues facing our environment, how we treat the planet on which we live and in sequence how we humans treat each other - still resolving conflict with killing ... we haven't come such a long way baby we only have more podiums and venues from which to yell at each other...

Back to topic....

I view Global Warming as a serious issue definitely worth study and remediation - certainly discussion at this stage.... it has been hijacked unfortunately for the regular people like we here on this forum ... into another divisive issue creating chaotic discussions of right and wrong instead of teamwork and cooperation in searching out the best minds, the most creative insight, the off the charts scientists who are not influenced politically or monetarily, and certainly this issue must be kept
apart from political ideology and governmental influence and tragically jerks who pander to non-thinkers ie: Gore and his handlers, George Soros and similar truly bad or mislead people. There are no good pied pipers - ask any rat.

The future of our world is in the hands of those who are in the present and those who follow.... yet we continually argue and divide and come up with nothing but disagreement - delaying answers and solutions which are there but fighting to be heard and funded for research.

Division is going to separate those who can do much positive good in our world..... and in so being divided, we become weak - leaving room for those who have another vision of our world should be...

Bits and pieces are being torn away from the promise of our future and infighting guarantees status quo - nothing new - locked in place - and eventually destruction of what we now take for granted.

We must encourage new vision, united, expectation of success, working together....for a common goal. A healthy planet.
 
Walter
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#228
What would Al say if he lived here?
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Curiosity
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Walter

Thanks for sharing - that picture was a beauty - but I guess people in Alaska take these sights for granted - what awesome land it must be up there even if the climate is harsh....brrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh

And to respond to your question: What would Al Gore say?

Al Gore would say whatever the audience wishes to hear - he is made of PlayDo and can be anything people want him to be - just buy a ticket.
 
normbc9
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#230
After doing some research I do see some changes are occurring and the situation in Antarctica is a good example. My only thought is this all man caused or is it a combination of cyclical event exacerbated by the discharge of fossil fuels spent energy waste inti the atmoasphere. But the claims made by Gore can only be partially substantiated. Many points contain what I see as half truths packed with some embellishment. But, he has made a name for himself (whether it be god or bad) and he takes the money home to the 20,000 square foot mansion and turns on the air management systems and the myriad of lights so he can be comfortable. Actions speak louder than words and his lifestyle isn't showing me any sign of an energy saving effort unless he uses fluorescent lamp bulbs.
 
EagleSmack
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#231
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Electric cars will kill the internal combustion powered car one day soon.

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I hope you are right. I do hope that fossil fuels are replaced on every level. They (electric cars) need to become more efficient though.
 
#juan
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Actually Eagle, they are pretty efficient right now. Just have to improve their range. If they can get the range up to 350 miles or so, they should have it made. The Hybrids are already getting over a thousand kilometers on a tank. The hybrids are going to be with us for a good long time and virtually every car company has at least one in the showrooms today.
 
stevek
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Sorry I was gone for the past few days and unable to participate in thei interesting and important discussion. I was in Belize, Sea Kayaking, experiencing a much colder and wetter dry season than usual. [sarcasm]Of course, a sign of global warming.[/sarcasm]

While there I was reading Michael Chrichton's State of Fear novel. It is an interesting fiction read with many interesting real graphs. Many of which show inconvenient cooling of many cities of the world. the only cities that have shown heating are the ones whose populations have drastically increased such as NY, NY. The rest of New York state has shown a steady cooling since 1880. The heat gain of the major cities concrete /asphalt structures likely account for much of the alleged Global Warming.

Another graph shows a steady increase in CO2 between 1940 and 1970 while the temperatures showed a steady decrease. This real anomoay has never been explained by the Global Warming Alarmists. It could very well be explained by the decrease in sunspot activity during this same period as shown in the graph of sunspot activity vs temperature anomalies on the friendsofscience.org web page.

Make no mistake about it Global Warming is either a myth of it is sun created. Mankind is still an insignificant speck on the surface of this planet.

The Kyoto resources should be redirected to fighting real pollution problems like smog. CO2 is not a threat, it's plant food.

Gore and Suzuki - Prophets for Profit
 
EagleSmack
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#234
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

Actually Eagle, they are pretty efficient right now. Just have to improve their range. If they can get the range up to 350 miles or so, they should have it made. The Hybrids are already getting over a thousand kilometers on a tank. The hybrids are going to be with us for a good long time and virtually every car company has at least one in the showrooms today.

GOOD!

I am glad to hear all of the advances in this technology and have been thinking of a hybrid. Car makers need to not only improve range but also the size. Lets face it... we Americans don't like driving around in Yugos. We like the open road, long road trips, trips by car, etc.

I think we should be building more Nuclear Power plants as well.
 
#juan
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GOOD!

I am glad to hear all of the advances in this technology and have been thinking of a hybrid. Car makers need to not only improve range but also the size. Lets face it... we Americans don't like driving around in Yugos. We like the open road, long road trips, trips by car, etc.

I think we should be building more Nuclear Power plants as well.

I have a Toyota Camry Hybrid, which is not a small car. My best mileage on a tank of gas {17.2 U.S. gallons) has been 1117 kilometers (692 miles) or about 40 miles per U.S.gallon, mostly in town.. I'm sure I can do better on the highway
 
Stretch
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#236
One book full of crap replaced by another
'Visitors to the Gaia Napa Valley Hotel and Spa won't find the Gideon Bible in the nightstand drawer. Instead, on the bureau will be a copy of ``An Inconvenient Truth,'' former Vice President Al Gore's book about global warming.'
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s243a
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One book full of crap replaced by another
'Visitors to the Gaia Napa Valley Hotel and Spa won't find the Gideon Bible in the nightstand drawer. Instead, on the bureau will be a copy of ``An Inconvenient Truth,'' former Vice President Al Gore's book about global warming.'
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I heard about this on Glen Beck today. Unfortunately most warmers won't see the irony.
 
Logic 7
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#238
Quote: Originally Posted by CuriosityView Post

Gore has found a publicity shtick and people think he is the second coming....

I can't believe the people who have fallen for this lout who has the morals of a snake...

He could care less about pollution, global warming and what you do to preserve the environment... he has adopted a cause which gets him the needed publicity he craves.

If you people lauded Ralph Nader, I'd appreciate you have true knowledge of what the lifestyle involves. You have merely jumped on the Bore Bandwagon, blindly following the piper...thinking it is a cool and upstanding thing to do.

There is nothing wrong in choosing your causes wisely, but choose the leaders with more substantial background than press releases of issues never truly addressed on a personal basis.


Well , from my point of view,i can understand why you guys are upset with gore, about this, however, if i am not mistaken, you are all supporter of the war on terror,which has been proved to be wrong one, bn$ has been spent,some canadians soldiers died, where is your outrage?

Did canadian loose money with gore?

or loose women and men at war, because of his moral of a snake?



think about it........
 
Silverhead
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Has anyone any information on Nuclear Power (through fission or fusion, I can't remember which) that will leave only helium as a by-product?
It is a rumour around work and sounds like an incredible solution.
 
Pangloss
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Great thread, folks - I have nothing to add that has not already been written. Good reading!

I'm gonna go to bed less stupid than I woke up.

Pangloss
 

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