US answer to global warming: smoke and giant space mirrors

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]US answer to global warming: smoke and giant space mirrors[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
Washington urges scientists to develop ways to reflect sunlight as 'insurance'
[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]David Adam, environment correspondent
[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Saturday January 27, 2007
[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Guardian
[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The US government wants the world's scientists to develop technology to block sunlight as a last-ditch way to halt global warming, the Guardian has learned. It says research into techniques such as giant mirrors in space or reflective dust pumped into the atmosphere would be "important insurance" against rising emissions, and has lobbied for such a strategy to be recommended by a major UN report on climate change, the first part of which will be published on Friday.[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The US has also attempted to steer the UN report, prepared by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), away from conclusions that would support a new worldwide climate treaty based on binding targets to reduce emissions - as sought by Tony Blair. It has demanded a draft of the report be changed to emphasise the benefits of voluntary agreements and to include criticisms of the Kyoto Protocol, the existing treaty which the US administration opposes.

[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The final IPCC report, written by experts from across the world, will underpin international negotiations to devise a new emissions treaty to succeed Kyoto, the first phase of which expires in 2012. World governments were given a draft of the report last year and invited to comment.

[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The US response, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, says the idea of interfering with sunlight should be included in the summary for policymakers, the prominent chapter at the front of each IPCC report. It says: "Modifying solar radiance may be an important strategy if mitigation of emissions fails. Doing the R&D to estimate the consequences of applying such a strategy is important insurance that should be taken out. This is a very important possibility that should be considered."

[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Scientists have previously estimated that reflecting less than 1% of sunlight back into space could compensate for the warming generated by all greenhouse gases emitted since the industrial revolution. Possible techniques include putting a giant screen into orbit, thousands of tiny, shiny balloons, or microscopic sulphate droplets pumped into the high atmosphere to mimic the cooling effects of a volcanic eruption. The IPCC draft said such ideas were "speculative, uncosted and with potential unknown side-effects".

[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The US submission is based on the views of dozens of government officials and is accompanied by a letter signed by Harlan Watson, senior climate negotiator at the US state department. It complains the IPCC draft report is "Kyoto-centric" and it wants to include the work of economists who have reported "the degree to which the Kyoto framework is found wanting". It takes issue with a statement that "one weakness of the [Kyoto] protocol, however, is its non-ratificiation by some significant greenhouse gas emitters" and asks: "Is this the only weakness worth mentioning? Are there others?"[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]It also insists the wording on the ineffectiveness of voluntary agreements be altered to include "a number of them have had significant impacts" and complains that overall "the report tends to overstate or focus on the negative effects of climate change." It also wants more emphasis on responsibilities of the developing world.

[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The IPCC report is made up of three sections. The first, on the science of climate change, will be launched on Friday. Sections on the impact and mitigation of climate change - in which the US wants to include references to the sun-blocking technology - will follow later this year.

[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The likely contents of the report have been an open secret since the Bush administration posted its draft copy on the internet in April. Next week's science report will say there is a 90% chance that human activity is warming the planet, and that global average temperatures will rise another 1.5C to 5.8C this century depending on emissions. The US response shows it accepts these statements, but it disagrees with a more tentative conclusion that rising temperatures have made hurricanes more powerful.[/FONT]
 

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There you have it. That means I can expect to get stricken with poison ivy three times more than I have in the past, which is currently a consistent zero times. This coupled with inch higher water must be part of the end of civilization that Al Gore anticipates. Remember, folks, all of this global warming nonsense you're reading about is just part of the 2008 Democratic platform as delivered by big media.
 

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NASA isn't part of the democratic platform:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/

Notice a trend in global mean temperatures?
Think global warming is nonsense?
Perhaps you think glaciers, polar icecaps, permafrost, etc. are being stolen by aliens?

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686

http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?keyword=global+warming

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/

http://environment.newscientist.com...BHJHJFGDPK?doSearch=true&query=global+warming

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0409/feature1/index.html

Yep, folks this global warming is a gigantic conspiracy by worldwide scientists, governments, newsmedia, scientific media, the weather, climate, etc. just to fool lil ol you an me.
 

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]US answer to global warming: smoke and giant space mirrors[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Washington urges scientists to develop ways to reflect sunlight as 'insurance'[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]David Adam, environment correspondent[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Saturday January 27, 2007[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Guardian[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The US government wants the world's scientists to develop technology to block sunlight as a last-ditch way to halt global warming, the Guardian has learned. It says research into techniques such as giant mirrors in space or reflective dust pumped into the atmosphere would be "important insurance" against rising emissions, and has lobbied for such a strategy to be recommended by a major UN report on climate change, the first part of which will be published on Friday.[/FONT][FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]The US has also attempted to steer the UN report, prepared by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), away from conclusions that would support a new worldwide climate treaty based on binding targets to reduce emissions - as sought by Tony Blair. It has demanded a draft of the report be changed to emphasise the benefits of voluntary agreements and to include criticisms of the Kyoto Protocol, the existing treaty which the US administration opposes.[/FONT]
Um, smog is what was hiding a lot of effects of climate change from us in the first place. So doing things to hide the effects again isn't going to help. I think what will happen is that there will be an increased amount of water in the air which will block a lot of solar radiation. Water is relatively harmless, smog isn't.
 

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I also heard this on CBC science show. If there is no global warmming then why would we need the giant space mirrors. < I can hardly type this it seems so moronic>
Maybe we could all wear little tinfoil umbrellas on our heads to refect the global warmming, geez.:laughing8:
 

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Well at least they may have considered something --lol
Look at us in Canada


Where are are mirrors --?
 

temperance

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And I just realized something

U.S has answered something --lol or a answer to something --

Id rather a Harpocrite lie to me then try to hide the truth --Im use to the latter
 

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[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Smog above Phoenix, Arizona – US report suggests reflective dust could reduce warming. Photograph: Deirdre Hamill/AP
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The US government wants the world's scientists to develop technology to block sunlight as a last-ditch way to halt global warming, the Guardian has learned. It says research into techniques such as giant mirrors in space or reflective dust pumped into the atmosphere would be "important insurance" against rising emissions, and has lobbied for such a strategy to be recommended by a major UN report on climate change, the first part of which will be published on Friday.
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The US has also attempted to steer the UN report, prepared by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), away from conclusions that would support a new worldwide climate treaty based on binding targets to reduce emissions - as sought by Tony Blair. It has demanded a draft of the report be changed to emphasise the benefits of voluntary agreements and to include criticisms of the Kyoto Protocol, the existing treaty which the US administration opposes. The final IPCC report, written by experts from across the world, will underpin international negotiations to devise a new emissions treaty to succeed Kyoto, the first phase of which expires in 2012. World governments were given a draft of the report last year and invited to comment.
The US response, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, says the idea of interfering with sunlight should be included in the summary for policymakers, the prominent chapter at the front of each IPCC report. It says: "Modifying solar radiance may be an important strategy if mitigation of emissions fails. Doing the R&D to estimate the consequences of applying such a strategy is important insurance that should be taken out. This is a very important possibility that should be considered."
Scientists have previously estimated that reflecting less than 1% of sunlight back into space could compensate for the warming generated by all greenhouse gases emitted since the industrial revolution. Possible techniques include putting a giant screen into orbit, thousands of tiny, shiny balloons, or microscopic sulphate droplets pumped into the high atmosphere to mimic the cooling effects of a volcanic eruption. The IPCC draft said such ideas were "speculative, uncosted and with potential unknown side-effects".
The US submission is based on the views of dozens of government officials and is accompanied by a letter signed by Harlan Watson, senior climate negotiator at the US state department. It complains the IPCC draft report is "Kyoto-centric" and it wants to include the work of economists who have reported "the degree to which the Kyoto framework is found wanting". It takes issue with a statement that "one weakness of the [Kyoto] protocol, however, is its non-ratificiation by some significant greenhouse gas emitters" and asks: "Is this the only weakness worth mentioning? Are there others?"
It also insists the wording on the ineffectiveness of voluntary agreements be altered to include "a number of them have had significant impacts" and complains that overall "the report tends to overstate or focus on the negative effects of climate change." It also wants more emphasis on responsibilities of the developing world.
The IPCC report is made up of three sections. The first, on the science of climate change, will be launched on Friday. Sections on the impact and mitigation of climate change - in which the US wants to include references to the sun-blocking technology - will follow later this year.
The likely contents of the report have been an open secret since the Bush administration posted its draft copy on the internet in April. Next week's science report will say there is a 90% chance that human activity is warming the planet, and that global average temperatures will rise another 1.5C to 5.8C this century depending on emissions. The US response shows it accepts these statements, but it disagrees with a more tentative conclusion that rising temperatures have made hurricanes more powerful.