#1Nov 7th, 2006
The Democrats get control of the House
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#2
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 7th, 2006
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Virginia!!! Gawd I hate being away from my comp! I cant find my news sites Im used to! But last I heard Allan(R) was 50 and Webb (D) was 49 wayyyyy close!
#3
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 7th, 2006
Looks like Reps will hold the Senate. Ironically, Lieberman may hold more power than either side.
#4
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 7th, 2006
The Reps will not control the Senate. I still believe at the very least it will be a tie or the Dems may actually gain control. But honestly, it's immaterial. To really control the Senate you need 60 +.
The House is an extremely important branch of government. If you control the House, you control the legislation being submitted, you are running committees and subcommittees. You chair investigations.
It's a great victory. Go Dems go!!!!
The House is an extremely important branch of government. If you control the House, you control the legislation being submitted, you are running committees and subcommittees. You chair investigations.
It's a great victory. Go Dems go!!!!
#5
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 7th, 2006
Of course you know this means nothing but Vetos until Pres Bush is out of office..so American politics will be at a standstill until the next Presidential elections, and if another Republican gets into the white house..we'll be spinning our wheels for years...
#6
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 7th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
Nope it doesn't mean that becuase the President cannot veto crap if 2/3 of the Senate and 2/3 of the House vote for it. Assuming we gain more ground next year and the year after, which I believe we will.Of course you know this means nothing but Vetos until Pres Bush is out of office..so American politics will be at a standstill until the next Presidential elections, and if another Republican gets into the white house..we'll be spinning our wheels for years...
Yeehaw checks and balances.
#7
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 7th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by I think not
2/3rds in either the Senate or the House is pretty unlikely i think..especially after the country gets to know Ms. Pelosi better...you'll be lucky to hold on to what you've gained.Nope it doesn't mean that becuase the President cannot veto crap if 2/3 of the Senate and 2/3 of the House vote for it. Assuming we gain more ground next year and the year after, which I believe we will.
Yeehaw checks and balances.
At any rate, The Dems will raise taxes, killing the economy once again, hire 50 times the amount of people needed to do a government job, bringing back their beloved big government. The ACLU will have an easier time of defending NAMBLA and other perv groups. Minors can get abortions willy nilly without their pesky parents having to be involved, they will gut the military again leaving us open to attack again. Terrorist groups are at this very moment getting their financiers lined up because they won't need to be worried about being monitored. All over the Gaza strip, Fallujah, and Al Sadr city, I am sure AK-47's are being shot off in celebratory orgies of extasy to the cries of Allah hu Ackbar. So good job. I hope you enjoy your 15 minutes, because I predict all the sweeping changes that will probably be made will only lead us right back to where we were after 8 years of Clintonian misrule. Thats assuming Bill's boss Hillary doesnt get into office..then we'll be in for an even longer Dark age. Just my two cents..I could be wrong.
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#8
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
I guess "God wanted the Democrats to win the house"
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#9
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
Democrats win the House despite the fact that Republicans engaged in extensive gerrymandering in which they sought to make districts as Republican as possible. Their clear victory is an emphatic rejection of the Bush radical agenda.
CBS, CNN, MSNBC all conducted exit polls surveys and asked what is the primary issue behind your vote? In each survey the answer was Iraq. This affirms what the pre-election polls and surveys have been saying all along: we the patriotic majority reject Bush's war of terroristic imperialism.
CBS, CNN, MSNBC all conducted exit polls surveys and asked what is the primary issue behind your vote? In each survey the answer was Iraq. This affirms what the pre-election polls and surveys have been saying all along: we the patriotic majority reject Bush's war of terroristic imperialism.
#10
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
No no no. This means that the system of checks and balances has been restored to America. That’s good. Americans have made good choices based on the facts. It's almost like now more of America will get a say in what direction the country takes. America can withstand higher taxes or more govt. wankers or even hippies but it will never last an administration and supporters that are at is best incompetent and in the worst-case practice malfeasance for personal gain. Good for America.Of course you know this means nothing but Vetos until Pres Bush is out of office..so American politics will be at a standstill until the next Presidential elections, and if another Republican gets into the white house..we'll be spinning our wheels for years...
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#11
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
I wonder why you say the Democrats will raise taxes and kill the economy. I am no expert in American politics but I've always thiought that Clinton, whatever else he was, he was fiscally responsible. It seems Clinton left office showing a healthy surplus and Bush has been piling up the defisit. You will have to explain that to me.2/3rds in either the Senate or the House is pretty unlikely i think..especially after the country gets to know Ms. Pelosi better...you'll be lucky to hold on to what you've gained.
At any rate, The Dems will raise taxes, killing the economy once again, hire 50 times the amount of people needed to do a government job, bringing back their beloved big government. The ACLU will have an easier time of defending NAMBLA and other perv groups. Minors can get abortions willy nilly without their pesky parents having to be involved, they will gut the military again leaving us open to attack again. Terrorist groups are at this very moment getting their financiers lined up because they won't need to be worried about being monitored. All over the Gaza strip, Fallujah, and Al Sadr city, I am sure AK-47's are being shot off in celebratory orgies of extasy to the cries of Allah hu Ackbar. So good job. I hope you enjoy your 15 minutes, because I predict all the sweeping changes that will probably be made will only lead us right back to where we were after 8 years of Clintonian misrule. Thats assuming Bill's boss Hillary doesnt get into office..then we'll be in for an even longer Dark age. Just my two cents..I could be wrong.
#12
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
Thomaska, and if they do all that all we have to do is vote them out. After that we would be ripe for another revolution. A little rebellion now and then is a healthy thing.2/3rds in either the Senate or the House is pretty unlikely i think..especially after the country gets to know Ms. Pelosi better...you'll be lucky to hold on to what you've gained.
At any rate, The Dems will raise taxes, killing the economy once again, hire 50 times the amount of people needed to do a government job, bringing back their beloved big government. The ACLU will have an easier time of defending NAMBLA and other perv groups. Minors can get abortions willy nilly without their pesky parents having to be involved, they will gut the military again leaving us open to attack again. Terrorist groups are at this very moment getting their financiers lined up because they won't need to be worried about being monitored. All over the Gaza strip, Fallujah, and Al Sadr city, I am sure AK-47's are being shot off in celebratory orgies of extasy to the cries of Allah hu Ackbar. So good job. I hope you enjoy your 15 minutes, because I predict all the sweeping changes that will probably be made will only lead us right back to where we were after 8 years of Clintonian misrule. Thats assuming Bill's boss Hillary doesnt get into office..then we'll be in for an even longer Dark age. Just my two cents..I could be wrong.
#13
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
Gerrymandering is Constitutional, you make it sound illegal. Democrats win the House despite the fact that Republicans engaged in extensive gerrymandering in which they sought to make districts as Republican as possible. Their clear victory is an emphatic rejection of the Bush radical agenda.
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
The issue of Iraq was one of four major issues and the last in percentage along with corruption, terrorism and the economy. In that order.CBS, CNN, MSNBC all conducted exit polls surveys and asked what is the primary issue behind your vote? In each survey the answer was Iraq. This affirms what the pre-election polls and surveys have been saying all along: we the patriotic majority reject Bush's war of terroristic imperialism.
#14
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
Oy Canucks
I thought you knew more about the government and electoral process than many in the U.S. themselves....
You don't seem to be tracking with much knowledge at all - read ITN and Thomaska who appear to be on
opposite sides and pick up some ideas - if you want to of course, rather than writing old rhetoric.
I've learned more from the internet infighting than all the media "offerings" which are meant to indoctrinate rather than inform. Extremism in any form or opinion bodes ill for any nation. Those who sit cemeted into one mantra will drag new ideas and compromise into the gutter. Time to clean house and minds.
As I see it in my neophyte way - until the great divide is bridged ideologically - stop with the fingerpointing - many are responsible - there will be again very little accomplished in the way of issues
which will be positive for the people of the U.S.
They can drag this victory out for two years making it a very long (and boring) political campaign to either win more seats (Dems) or regain what is lost (Pubs).... rather than getting to the work they are being
paid to do. That may be considered good politics - I call it disaster for the country.
I thought you knew more about the government and electoral process than many in the U.S. themselves....
You don't seem to be tracking with much knowledge at all - read ITN and Thomaska who appear to be on
opposite sides and pick up some ideas - if you want to of course, rather than writing old rhetoric.
I've learned more from the internet infighting than all the media "offerings" which are meant to indoctrinate rather than inform. Extremism in any form or opinion bodes ill for any nation. Those who sit cemeted into one mantra will drag new ideas and compromise into the gutter. Time to clean house and minds.
As I see it in my neophyte way - until the great divide is bridged ideologically - stop with the fingerpointing - many are responsible - there will be again very little accomplished in the way of issues
which will be positive for the people of the U.S.
They can drag this victory out for two years making it a very long (and boring) political campaign to either win more seats (Dems) or regain what is lost (Pubs).... rather than getting to the work they are being
paid to do. That may be considered good politics - I call it disaster for the country.
#15
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by #juan
I'll get back to you on that Juan, gotta get to work. But just wanted to say quickly, that while I may be exagerating a bit with my post, the spirit of it is true. The Dem party is who the child molestors, rapists, terrorists, and all other manner of criminals want in power. You just have to ask yourself , "Why?" Taxes being raised is the least of my worries, but when I get back I'll bring some stuff to show Slick Willie was riding the wave of Reaganomic successes, and they can't really take credit for that.I wonder why you say the Democrats will raise taxes and kill the economy. I am no expert in American politics but I've always thiought that Clinton, whatever else he was, he was fiscally responsible. It seems Clinton left office showing a healthy surplus and Bush has been piling up the defisit. You will have to explain that to me.
For people outside of the U.S. and probably for a lot in the U.S., the next few years elections will be nothing but Iraq, Iraq, Iraq. However all the Democrats do is criticize how the Republicans handle it. They offer nothing substantive in the way of fixing it.
The Democrats claim to support the troops, and the biggest way to support them is to get them out. Well, the fact is the Dems can't just yank us out of Iraq, because then they will be guilty as charged of cutting and running. What they will do is begin to cut funding, a little here, a little there, hold up war funds with filibusters, and committee hearings ad nauseum. And the People will rejoice because FINALLY someone is doing something.
Here what that something means. Private Jones sitting in a hole in Kandahar needs the Humvee he is driving to be armored better because IED's made out 150mm howitzers shells go right through the 1/4 inch crap alloy that most hummers are made of. The problem is the funding for this is being held up in a sub-committee hearing, because of either:
a) some democrat wants some pork added to the bill that supports opening marijuana bars back in 'Frisco
b) some democrat wants pork added to the bill that supports free tuition for illegal aliens
C) some democrat---you get the picture...
So Private Jones, in the best case scenario, does his stint in Afghanistan or Iraq, slightly more nervous than he would have been otherwise. Worst case scenario, he gets blown into pieces so small that they have to do DNA testing to figure out if it his him or not. Support for the troops my ass.
Previously, I listed a few of the things above that the Democratic party supports..for those of you unfamiliar with the Jackass party lets review, this is the party that:
Would support stiffer prison sentences for someone abusing an animal, but would not sentence a child molester to prison because he is too short.<----Thats true, I'm sure most people remember that.
They say one of their platforms was to make college more affordable. They do not mean, however, making the schools lower tuition, they mean making it free or subsidized, BUT NO, not for you whitey, for illegal immigrants.
I've seen that most people on this board react with disgust whenever someone posts something about a rapist or child molester. Which party here in the U.S. do you think is more likely to lock these people up and throw away the key?
Big Government-heres what I mean by that. The Democratic leadership in the U.S. thinks the average Joe in this country is dumber than a box of hammers. We just aren't capable of constructing a lucid thought much less acting on it. Therefore there must be a government agency to run every aspect of our lives. We must be told what to think, what to do, and what to say by our benefactors, the Democrats. WAR IS PEACE, IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE. The prime example of this is the gift who keeps on giving himself John Kerry. His apology for his gaff about the troops wasn't really an apology to the troops. It was an apology for the fact that you idiots out there in the Proletariat are too freaking stupid to understand what he meant. Republicans are often accused of elitism, but I think it is much worse on the Left side of the isle.
So, I guess in closing I'll say this. Shame on all the registered republicans for not getting out there and voting. And no matter who won this latest round, I still maintain that the majority of the U.S. populace still has more right wing leaning values. We may now have more "San Francisco values politicians" now, but if they aren't careful with what they do, they'll be out on their ass in the next election.
Oh, and for all those who disagree with me, I'll say this. If all 250 million or so eligible voters actually voted, I don't think a democrat would ever win any branch of government, assuming that is that we could keep the illegal aliens and felons out of the polling places.
Gratz on your victories Dems, please don't change the name of the Marine Corps to the Democratic Peoples Army's Marine Corps until I retire though? I like the certificates the way they are...
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#16
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
I think you are watching too much O'Reilly Factor. Show some statistics that Child Molestation, Rape and terror crimes are significantly different when the dem's hold power?I'll get back to you on that Juan, gotta get to work. But just wanted to say quickly, that while I may be exagerating a bit with my post, the spirit of it is true. The Dem party is who the child molestors, rapists, terrorists, and all other manner of criminals want in power. You just have to ask yourself , "Why?" Taxes being raised is the least of my worries, but when I get back I'll bring some stuff to show Slick Willie was riding the wave of Reaganomic successes, and they can't really take credit for that.
#17
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
I'm a Republican voter who doesn't mind this Democratic Party Tsunami.
It's our come uppance, for a certain amount of hubris not just with the White House, but in
the party itself, not policing properly its own corruption, its love-affair with pork projects and earmarking, it's fiscal insanity, it's lack of a strong immigration policy, it's lack of a strong
energy policy, it's inability to get anything accomplished.
I've watched my party lose a lot of its principles, especially on spending, especially on pork.
They've embraced it, instead of a more principled idea that we think of the whole country
rather than buying votes from their constitutent voting regions.
This is still not to say the Democratic party is any better.
It's our come uppance, for a certain amount of hubris not just with the White House, but in
the party itself, not policing properly its own corruption, its love-affair with pork projects and earmarking, it's fiscal insanity, it's lack of a strong immigration policy, it's lack of a strong
energy policy, it's inability to get anything accomplished.
I've watched my party lose a lot of its principles, especially on spending, especially on pork.
They've embraced it, instead of a more principled idea that we think of the whole country
rather than buying votes from their constitutent voting regions.
This is still not to say the Democratic party is any better.
#18
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by Curiosity
AH THE JOYS OF POLITICS!!! It is always the case that the general nature of politics never sees past it's own nose...very few political types ever have a clear vision but rather just looking for short term gain to get in or stay in power.Oy Canucks
I thought you knew more about the government and electoral process than many in the U.S. themselves....
You don't seem to be tracking with much knowledge at all - read ITN and Thomaska who appear to be on
opposite sides and pick up some ideas - if you want to of course, rather than writing old rhetoric.
I've learned more from the internet infighting than all the media "offerings" which are meant to indoctrinate rather than inform. Extremism in any form or opinion bodes ill for any nation. Those who sit cemeted into one mantra will drag new ideas and compromise into the gutter. Time to clean house and minds.
As I see it in my neophyte way - until the great divide is bridged ideologically - stop with the fingerpointing - many are responsible - there will be again very little accomplished in the way of issues
which will be positive for the people of the U.S.
They can drag this victory out for two years making it a very long (and boring) political campaign to either win more seats (Dems) or regain what is lost (Pubs).... rather than getting to the work they are being
paid to do. That may be considered good politics - I call it disaster for the country.
One thing that Canadians in general miss as far as U.S. politics go is as follows:
As much as we may in general be more in tune with the democrats, It is the democrats that are more protectionist and usually give Canadian trade a hard time.
#19
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
One note from last nite's babbling (I loved watching the announcers fight among themselves hee)....
When the announcement came of the resounding House Win for the Dems, there was an immediate query from the Iraqi president to the U.S. Ambassador - that the U.S. was not going to pull out in a hurry under the new leadership.
Hmmmmmmm wasn't I reading last week that the Iraqis wanted the U.S. military out?
When the announcement came of the resounding House Win for the Dems, there was an immediate query from the Iraqi president to the U.S. Ambassador - that the U.S. was not going to pull out in a hurry under the new leadership.
Hmmmmmmm wasn't I reading last week that the Iraqis wanted the U.S. military out?
#20
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
I think people are tired of extremists. I wish Bush was on the ballot.
#21
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by Curiosity
People and the government often want different things eh? Personally I think that would mean disaster for Iraq, but of course I'm no expert on the Middle East.One note from last nite's babbling (I loved watching the announcers fight among themselves hee)....
When the announcement came of the resounding House Win for the Dems, there was an immediate query from the Iraqi president to the U.S. Ambassador - that the U.S. was not going to pull out in a hurry under the new leadership.
Hmmmmmmm wasn't I reading last week that the Iraqis wanted the U.S. military out?
The elections were interesting, but I've always found American politics to be interesting... confusing too. I find it especially strange how campaigning goes when one party controls the congress or senate and another controls the white house. It seems like that would make it pretty tough to get things done, sort of like a minority government in Canada I guess.
#22
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
See, this is what I mean. People have such short memories, I'm sure the most important thing on your mind is the fact that Britney Spears is now filing for divorce...I never said anything about the rates of the incidents just the Dems treatment of offenders...I think you are watching too much O'Reilly Factor. Show some statistics that Child Molestation, Rape and terror crimes are significantly different when the dem's hold power?
So lets see:
They opposed the statute known as Jessica's Law because it prohibits sex offenders from living within 1000 feet of churches or schools. Well in their backyard of San Francisco, thats hard to do because of dense popultion. Do they care about the potential victims? Nope. They care that Mr. Rapist's civil liberties might be being violated.
Remember Clinton's tantrum about getting set-up on Fox news, well the truth hurts, why else would he get so mad?
The rapist too short for prison? Here the story. A liberal Judge, no surprise there:
LINCOLN, Nebraska (AP) — A judge’s decision to sentence a 5-foot-1 man to probation instead of prison for sexually assaulting a child has angered crime victim advocates who say the punishment sends the wrong message.
But supporters of short people say it’s about time someone recognizes the unique challenges they face.
Cheyenne County District Judge Kristine Cecava issued the sentence Tuesday. She told Richard W. Thompson that his crimes deserved a long prison sentence but that he was too small to survive in a state prison.
Though he could have been sentenced to 10 years behind bars, he ended up with 10 years of probation instead. On Thursday, the state’s attorney general, Jon Bruning, promised to appeal within two weeks, calling the sentence far too lenient.
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Now Bush will get his illegal amnesty bill passed, which I whole-heartedly disagree with. But on the bright side, I suppose enrollment in piloting schools in Florida will skyrocket...
So now you go ahead and show me some proof that Democrats are the tough Party when it comes to crime. If you can find any
#23
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
Yes there will be vetoes, probably lots. But Congress can overide a Presidential veto.Of course you know this means nothing but Vetos until Pres Bush is out of office..so American politics will be at a standstill until the next Presidential elections, and if another Republican gets into the white house..we'll be spinning our wheels for years...
No excuses... the Dems have control. The whining is over and it is time to put their money where their mouth is.
#24
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack
Thats true. I'm anxious to see the grand plan they have for fighting terrorism that they've kept under wraps for so long now. I'm sure Aspirin Factory managers in the Sudan are very nervous also.Yes there will be vetoes, probably lots. But Congress can overide a Presidential veto.
No excuses... the Dems have control. The whining is over and it is time to put their money where their mouth is.
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#25
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
How many Democrats opposed Jessica's Law?
What is tough on crime for you? Try'em and hang'em by noon? Texas Style!
What is tough on crime for you? Try'em and hang'em by noon? Texas Style!
#26
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
I hope Bush isn't too short for San Quentin. He's taller than he looks.
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#27
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
Like the republicans had a plan? Other then rubberstamping whatever GW pass their way?Thats true. I'm anxious to see the grand plan they have for fighting terrorism that they've kept under wraps for so long now. I'm sure Aspirin Factory managers in the Sudan are very nervous also.
#28
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006
I am anxious to see what they will do in Iraq. This is what their platform was based on.
Now that the elections are over I think... I THINK... the low gas prices we have been enjoying will shoot up.
Now that the elections are over I think... I THINK... the low gas prices we have been enjoying will shoot up.
#29
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
Like the republicans had a plan? Other then rubberstamping whatever GW pass their way?
I'll use a move from your playbook, show some stats that they didnt have a plan.
There are some silver linings, you dems didnt get evrything you wanted, this is from Michelle Malkin's website so the credit goes to her, I couldn't say it better
"The GOP lost. Conservatism prevailed. "San Francisco values" may control the gavels in Congress, but they do not control America. Property rights initiatives limiting eminent domain won big. MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed resoundingly. Congressman Tom Tancredo, the GOP's leading warrior against illegal immigration--opposed by both the open-borders Left and the open-borders White House--won a fifth term handily. Gay marriage bans won approval in 3 states. And as of this writing, the oil tax initiative, Prop. 87--backed by deep-pocketed Hollywood libs, is trailing badly in California"
So you dems didn't manage to get everything you wanted while you were waving the "Iraq is Vietnam" flag to distract people.
#30
Re: The Democrats get control of the House
Nov 8th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by I think not
Indeed.The Reps will not control the Senate. I still believe at the very least it will be a tie or the Dems may actually gain control. But honestly, it's immaterial. To really control the Senate you need 60 +.
The House is an extremely important branch of government. If you control the House, you control the legislation being submitted, you are running committees and subcommittees. You chair investigations.
It's a great victory. Go Dems go!!!!
This is great news.
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