Why the truth about 9/11 is not likely to come out...

Why the truth is not likely to come out in our time. Does anyone believe that even if the US planned 9/11 that the truth will ever come out in our time?

This is no small thing we are talking about here.

First do you know how many people would have to go to jail, aka kill themselves over this? If this was carried out by the US then it took top officials to carry this out, do you think they will let the truth see the light of day in their life time?

Second they used this as justification to start 2 wars, are you kidding me, do you think they would ever let the truth come out to the world if they did do this? Do you know how hated, despised and mistrusted they would be? The world wide repercussions and shifting of power would be hard to fathom.

Third do you think the American people will appreciate a half a decade of fear, dead Soldiers and their rights taken away over a lie? Many have lost sons, daughters, mothers, husbands, if it was all for a lie, do you think that they would want to know?

Fourth do you know the possible sanctions that they would possibly get over this? Let's see, leading their friends the Brits into a war of their creation, that's one way to win friends and influence people not. We would not be loving them if it turned out to be true. etc.

Fifth the middle east would have a field day after they took them to the world wide tribunal for crimes against other countries, heck the lawyers in America would have a field day. The country would go broke, well further into debt, cause of all the law suits locally and other wise.

This would actually have to make the 5:00 pm news, even with their control of the media, it would be hard to not get this reported, so now who really thinks we are going to see the truth about 9/11 in our life times?

If they did this, the truth might come out, but not likely.

To be honest with you, I suspect it's true, but if tomorrow someone gave me definitive proof that it was true, I would be so hurt and so shocked, I would not know what to do. It's like suspecting someone is having an affair vs finding hard core proof and I think that is what we are looking at.

To be honest with you, I don't know how I would handle the truth if they did do this. So do you really think we will see truth in our lifetimes if this is true?

I agree with you completely.

This is WHY 9-11 was the "perfect crime" ... even people who lost people in the attack would NOT want to see what would happen to their nation if the truth was to come out. It would make the real attack itself look like a petty criminals endevor in comparison to the destruction.

However.. if ONE ... just ONE of the Israelis who were responsible for placing the explosives in the WTC or perhaps if one of the CIA agents who was handling the 19 patsies was to come forward and admit to everything, THEN MAYBE.. but he would be either shot dead very quickly or dismissed by the mainstream media as a quack.

SO NO... in the USA the TRUTH about 9-11 will NEVER come out.. however I'd like to suggest something to you that might raise your spirits a little bit...


... many other nations lost people in that attack. Why are they themselves not allowed to investiage the murder of their own people?


I propose that every nation that lost people in the WTC and the airplanes that were crashed or disappeared that day put together an internation investiagation under.. interpol or the UN or whatever.. to find out if...

- The USA allowed our people to be killed in order to justify the policies they've been trying to put through for years now.

- If we were all lied to by the current administration over who was really responsible for the attack.. and led us in to a war in Afganistan for example. A war that should not be happening and we should not be in (at all really) if in fact they had nothing to do with 9-11.. which we know they did not.

- If even perhaps the USA itself was responsible for allowing another nation (Israel) to conduct the operation for the "benifit" of the elite of both nations. The rest of us who lost citizens in the US during the attack should be seriously concerned that they were sacrificed in order to make these wars a reality.. we should be concerned that this could happen again in order to draw us all in to another war.. this one they are talking about using "small and safe" nukular weapons during.. we should be doing everything to stop this from happening and an investigation that prooves that the USA allowed the 9-11 attack to happen would and COULD POSSIBLY prevent all wars from ever happening again... we'd never be allowed to be manipulated by our leaders in to killing our fellow man ever again... if our leaders can't manage things without dropping bombs on people then they've already screwed up and should be replaced by a real leader.



ANYWAYS... my point is... an international investiagation by those nations who lost people in the attacks COULD force the US to defend itself when found guilty or at least answer the unanswered questions.. remember how they were suppose to provide a whole bunch of evidence for us in the weeks after 9-11 that would proove that OBL did it? It never surfaced and eventually the anthrax happened and we had something else to be in fear of... our mail... it was brilliant. An international investigation isn't only completely reasonable.. but because we lost people.. and because the 9-11 inquiry was an obvious cover up, an international investigation could not only stop the wars that are going on now.. it would do so much to reverse a lot of the damage that has been done.. the USA would be forced to withdraw all of its forces.. Israel would be held up to the same UN standards and resolutions it expects its neighbours to be held up to (this means that Israel would have to get rid of all of its weapons and I doubt if it would be allowed to recieve any more in the future) .. and we MIGHT just have peace in the middle east if we could all proove that we were all manipulated.

You are correct... I agree with you 100% that the USA itself will NEVER investigate the crime.. it would destroy the country more to find out the truth then the attacks itself did.. BUT.. if the world itself was to proove that the attack was fake.. well.. the USA and its citizens (through apathy and stupidity) brought it down on themselves. And they'll just have to deal with the consequences of being blood thirsty revenge oriented jerks.

The rest of us will be able to live in peace, maybe forever. And so to get that peace.. thats all we need to do... convince the academics of the nations that also lost lives on 9-11 to do the investigation for themselves in their own best interests to do so.


-VMX

All we need is a revolution, otherwise our children won't be free.

A revolution?? You truly are crazy. So you are going to revolt against a foreign government because you perceive them to be lying about 9/11?

The truth is already out.Your conspiracy theories do not hold up under scrutiny.I wish you nutbars would find another hobby,like tracking down the elusive sasquatch.

How did that conspiracy theory go, the one whereby conspiracy theorists believed Bush was operating secret prisons outside the US? Are they still wearing tin foil hats?

How did that conspiracy theory go, the one whereby conspiracy theorists didn't believe Saddam was a threat and Bush was lying WMD's? Are they still wearing tin foil hats?

Sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut. How about saddam moving his wmd's to Syria. Is that possible?

Oh you conspiracy theorists. That's foiler material.

or....even a stopped clock is right twice a day.....

Actually, I don't think anyone really was too surprized that Bush was running secret CIA prisons.......

As for Bush LYING about WMDs, I think he really believed, as did most nations, not much wonder considering the way Saddam was acting.

Now, here's a question for you 9-11 conspiracy psycho......I mean conspiracy buffs......what about Flight 93? Were the phone calls from that flight speaking of terrorists taking the plane faked? Or was it just coincidence that that happened on the same day?

Yeah,It's too much of a stretch to think Saddam could have moved the weapons. It is much more believable that two of the largest buildings in the world were secretly rigged with explosives on weekends by the CIA and the jews.

What phone calls? No such thing.

I don't buy the rigged building theory and I don't buy the WMD-move-to-Syria theory. What I do know is Bush has lost the trust of most of the planet. I wouldn't buy an official story of his any more than I would from that of a snake oil salesman.

It is true that he has lost much trust.A big part of the reason is this conspiracy crap going on. Fat bastard Moore should be hung by his tiny penis and the rest of you should be shipped to the middle east until you learn to appreciate freedom. A week over there and you will be begging to come back into George's open arms.

Bush screwed up the goodwill America had around the world. That has nothing to do with Moore. The day after 9-11 everyone was behind the US. It was virtually impossible to screw that up but he has somehow managed it. It is almost treasonous what he has done to the credibility of the US globally.

No, because both weren't that much of a stretch to begin with.

That's the problem with the foilers - no perspective.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush told the American people Monday night that the country faces "a struggle for civilization" as it fights the war on terrorism sparked by the 9/11 attacks five years ago.

In an address from the Oval Office, the president stressed the necessity of victory over terrorism.

"If we do not defeat these enemies now, we will leave our children to face a Middle East overrun by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons," Bush said. "We are in a war that will set the course for this new century and determine the destiny of millions across the world." (Watch how the world might face new terror threats -- 2:07)

Defeat them now? Is that like getting Bin Laden dead or alive 5 years ago? You've been creating more terrorists ever since 9-11! You Mr Bush you are the worst thing the west could have in a war on terrorism. You my friend are the terrorist factory.

"We are fighting to maintain the way of life enjoyed by free nations, and we are fighting for the possibility that good and decent people across the Middle East can raise up societies based on freedom and tolerance and personal dignity," Bush said. "By standing with democratic leaders and reformers, by giving voice to the hopes of decent men and women, we are offering a path away from radicalism."

Dear Mr Bush. It sounds like you are begging everyone to rise up and win a desparate campaign you appear to be losing. If you honestly believe you are still in a fight to maintain the way of life for Americans you are in the wrong job. Obviously this line of work isn't working for you.

The president also called on the American people to "put aside our differences and work together to meet the test that history has given us."

"We will defeat our enemies ... we will protect our people .. and we will lead the 21st century into a shining age of human liberty," Bush said. (Watch how Bush reacted five years ago -- 1:27)

When and how? By creating more terrrorists? Keep dreaming.

The president also saluted the heroism exhibited by Americans after the terrorist attacks in 2001.

"On 9/11, our nation saw the face of evil," he said. "Yet, on that awful day, we also witnessed something distinctly American -- ordinary citizens rising to the occasion and responding with extraordinary acts of courage."

Distinctly American? Only Americans have courage? How courageous are the civilians of Iraq, the families of the 56000 civilians who have died as a result of your mistakes? Alot more courage than a gutless moron like yourself.

The speech capped a day of tributes at the sites where terrorists piloting hijacked airliners struck five years ago -- New York City's World Trade Center, the Pentagon in Washington, and Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where United Airlines Flight 93 crashed as passengers tried to wrest back control of the airplane. (Full story)

The president and first lady laid a wreath at the site of the Flight 93 crash and Bush exchanged hugs and greetings with people who lost family members onboard.

After the Shanksville ceremony, the Bushes went to the Pentagon for a wreath-laying ceremony.

Bush shared private words, handshakes and hugs with victims' family members among the 100 people gathered at the Pentagon, at one point appearing to wipe away a tear.

The Bushes began their day in New York, having breakfast with first responder personnel at a firehouse before attending the ceremony to commemorate the fifth anniversary of 9/11. (Watch the memorial at Ground Zero -- 15:16)

The president made no public remarks at Monday's ceremonies.

An estimated 2,973 people were killed in the attacks.

Similar numbers of Americans were killed in Iraq enforcing a Bush mistake. A further 50000+ innocent Iraqis were killed in attacks directed by Bush.

The great majority of Iraqi's killed were killed by other Iraqi's. It is not the american soldier that fills up a van with explosives and then once a group of men gather,looking for a job,blows it up. 118 fathers,sons lost because these people are evil.Why don't you go to the middle east and experience thier great society firsthand?

Amen to that.


To you nut bars I driect you http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0906/20060910/

Ya right. Those smart bombs never miss a target and only hit the WMD facilities. You're the one interested in meddling in their affairs. Please go. Enjoy the new Iraq.

The nutbars said Bush was torturing prisoners in secret prisons. The nutbars warned against the ensuing mess in Iraq if the Moron in Chief went on his warmongering campaign. So sorry the foilers believed the official fairy tales.

Didn't the nut bars also warn about secret wiretaps? Guess that's just all crazy talk, he wouldn't do that.

As for the calls I can not say one way or another, but I direct you to this link.

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He actually paid to have people try to make phone calls in the air, know what it can't be done. The range goes out after a certain stage, but maybe all those calls on that day were just tin foil space signals.

The truth is we might never know the truth, but I agree with AspiringStarvingArtist that we can at least try. The post did give me some glimmer of hope.

Thanks.

The best conspiracy theories were the ones coming out of the Whitehouse and then fed by the media to make the public support an invasion of Iraq. Now those guys... those guys pushed one conspiracy after another! And guess what? The public still believes the BS.

However let’s stomp on the little guy for struggling with the truth behind 911 because a government and media which continues to mislead the public won’t allow itself to really come clean regarding such a horrendous tragedy.

Is Bush the blind squirrel trying to surround himself with nuts? You might be onto something there.

Yes Bush believes his own crap. That I can agree with. However he’s since been told the truth on several things. That also is apparent when he has been made to come upfront with it. And yet he still tries push a lie about a lot of the same stuff now that he has been given the truth. This is another layer of the onion that is Bush.

And when you keep peeling the layers of the guy (not very many), you start to cry.

I give Bush enough credit that even he knows he’s a bullsh’tter.

Oh I needed a good laugh, that was too funny. I love that line. I am still laughing, it's so true sometimes.

Americans need to revolution, and same for all the supposed free nations, 9-11 is the beginning , next one will be worst and worst, are we going to wait until we are all in slave? have ever read a book called "1984"?

Exaclty well said, those peoples are the same peoples at 15 years old ,where their parents had to explained to them, that santa claus really doesnt exist, even though all evidence were there all along.

Iraq was invaded because Saddam would not allow the weapons inspectors in to do thier job. He agreed to this after his invasion of Kuwait to save his country from being bombed a few centuries back to the stone age. 9/11 was jut the icing on the cake. You anti-bush people should really take a good look at the world. Who is the enemy? Who would you want to live next door? Your narrow-minded views may be popular with the latte crew,but it is not reality.

If you want a WMD threat look at North Korea, or the US. We don't even know how many civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, all we know is that it's a really big number. Also, though many countries have developed nuclear weapons, the only country who dared to use them was the US, and the US did it twice.