Super Genius
Posts: 1,274 
August 26th, 2006, 10:55 AM
I told ya so. You said I was nuts, a freaky wild conspiracy nutball.
But some of you agreed too. Good for you, brave souls because the truth is one step closer to emerging and then all those poor saps on the other side of this line will have some " 'splaining" to do, mostly to themselves for falling for such an old trick.
Now a serious candidate running for the Congressional seat in the Republican primary is saying it out loud, brave soul also.
Nawww, people are just too willing to believe what is easiest to believe, and the USA government being implicated in the 9-11 incident is just not an easy thing to believe.
CAN you believe it?
Can YOU believe it?
This GOP candidate seriously believes it, and is passionate about bringing the truth out. Lets see if she gets any mass media time...
K
PS - Link to Lusitania ocean liner sinking quoted as example in the candidate's speach:
http://www.pbs.org/lostliners/lusitania.html
I told ya so. You said I was nuts, a freaky wild conspiracy nutball.
But some of you agreed too. Good for you, brave souls because the truth is one step closer to emerging and then all those poor saps on the other side of this line will have some " 'splaining" to do, mostly to themselves for falling for such an old trick.
Now a serious candidate running for the Congressional seat in the Republican primary is saying it out loud, brave soul also.
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Oh YA!!!! This is a good day. When people running for office say it, the media might pick up on it and the public might start to get a grip on the reality of conspiracy that we are living in right now.
the candidate, Mary Maxwell, said the U.S. government had a role in killing nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Center and Pentagon, so it could make Americans hate Arabs and allow the military to bomb Muslim nations such as Iraq.
she implicated the government by saying the Sept. 11 attacks were meant "to soften us up ... to make us more willing to have more stringent laws here, which are totally against the Bill of Rights ... to make us particularly focus on Arabs and Muslims ... and those strange persons who spend all their time creating little bombs," giving Americans a reason "to hate them and fear them and, therefore, bomb them in Iraq for other reasons."
She said this strategy "would be normal" for governments, citing her belief that the British government - and not the Germany military - sank the Lusitania ocean liner in 1915. The deaths of Americans on the cruise liner helped galvanize U.S. support to enter World War I, and benefited England, she said.
In turn, the Sept. 11 attacks "made the ground fertile" for more stringent laws, such as the Patriot Act, and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, Maxwell said.
she implicated the government by saying the Sept. 11 attacks were meant "to soften us up ... to make us more willing to have more stringent laws here, which are totally against the Bill of Rights ... to make us particularly focus on Arabs and Muslims ... and those strange persons who spend all their time creating little bombs," giving Americans a reason "to hate them and fear them and, therefore, bomb them in Iraq for other reasons."
She said this strategy "would be normal" for governments, citing her belief that the British government - and not the Germany military - sank the Lusitania ocean liner in 1915. The deaths of Americans on the cruise liner helped galvanize U.S. support to enter World War I, and benefited England, she said.
In turn, the Sept. 11 attacks "made the ground fertile" for more stringent laws, such as the Patriot Act, and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, Maxwell said.
Nawww, people are just too willing to believe what is easiest to believe, and the USA government being implicated in the 9-11 incident is just not an easy thing to believe.
CAN you believe it?
Can YOU believe it?
This GOP candidate seriously believes it, and is passionate about bringing the truth out. Lets see if she gets any mass media time...
K
PS - Link to Lusitania ocean liner sinking quoted as example in the candidate's speach:
http://www.pbs.org/lostliners/lusitania.html
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The lost of the Lusitania provoked great outrage in the United States and helped create the climate of public opinion that would later allow America to join the war.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,323
August 28th, 2006, 08:59 AM
Here is the proof that you are wrong.
""Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.""
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
Now you should ask yourself, who is the nutcase.
Quoting
Amazing the number of nutcases in our midst. Hope to hell this conspiracy theorist does not have the vote. There should be a IQ test. No single digits allowed!
Here is the proof that you are wrong.
""Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.""
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
Now you should ask yourself, who is the nutcase.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,995 
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
August 28th, 2006, 07:17 PM
There's, perhaps, one or two scientists in academia who proport this bizarre theory, and thousands of others who ignore it because they don't spend their days pursuing bizarre theories like the world is flat, the WTC came down in a self-controlled explosion, etc., etc.
Most of the academics who argue this are history, philosophy, sociology, etc. profs.
Surprise, surprise.
There's, perhaps, one or two scientists in academia who proport this bizarre theory, and thousands of others who ignore it because they don't spend their days pursuing bizarre theories like the world is flat, the WTC came down in a self-controlled explosion, etc., etc.
Most of the academics who argue this are history, philosophy, sociology, etc. profs.
Surprise, surprise.
Genius
Posts: 998
Location: Was Victoria, now Ottawa
Location: Was Victoria, now Ottawa
August 28th, 2006, 07:49 PM
It sounds terrible, but there is evidence. It wouldn't have been the first time the US let a tragedy happen for political reasons. The massive escalation of the Vietnam war from 1964 to 1968 was justified on the basis of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August, 1964, in which the Johnson Administration claimed that U.S. ships were attacked by the North Vietnamese.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was an alleged pair of attacks -- the second of which did not occur -- by North Vietnamese gunboats on two American destroyers. Later research, including a report released in 2005 by the National Security Agency, indicates that the second attack did not occur.
Some believe the first attack was allowed to happen to sway public support for war.
It sounds terrible, but there is evidence. It wouldn't have been the first time the US let a tragedy happen for political reasons. The massive escalation of the Vietnam war from 1964 to 1968 was justified on the basis of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August, 1964, in which the Johnson Administration claimed that U.S. ships were attacked by the North Vietnamese.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was an alleged pair of attacks -- the second of which did not occur -- by North Vietnamese gunboats on two American destroyers. Later research, including a report released in 2005 by the National Security Agency, indicates that the second attack did not occur.
Some believe the first attack was allowed to happen to sway public support for war.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,323
August 30th, 2006, 03:14 PM
True, get a life, don't ask questions, don't argue,don't cross the line,just shut up, and let others dictates what you should believe.Wow great society you guys want to live in.
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There was an article in the National Post interviewing an arts professor who believed the conspiracy theorists because he "felt it to be true."
Get a life.
Get a life.
True, get a life, don't ask questions, don't argue,don't cross the line,just shut up, and let others dictates what you should believe.Wow great society you guys want to live in.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,995
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
August 30th, 2006, 06:30 PM
That's tantamount to concluding someone must have committed murder because they once received a speeding ticket.
There is no perspective.
Those purporting this theory are completely warped by their hatred of Bush and/or the American government.
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Faking an attack and instigating the largest most spectacular act of war on American soil since the Civil War are two very, very different things.
It sounds terrible, but there is evidence. It wouldn't have been the first time the US let a tragedy happen for political reasons. The massive escalation of the Vietnam war from 1964 to 1968 was justified on the basis of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August, 1964, in which the Johnson Administration claimed that U.S. ships were attacked by the North Vietnamese.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was an alleged pair of attacks -- the second of which did not occur -- by North Vietnamese gunboats on two American destroyers. Later research, including a report released in 2005 by the National Security Agency, indicates that the second attack did not occur.
Some believe the first attack was allowed to happen to sway public support for war.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was an alleged pair of attacks -- the second of which did not occur -- by North Vietnamese gunboats on two American destroyers. Later research, including a report released in 2005 by the National Security Agency, indicates that the second attack did not occur.
Some believe the first attack was allowed to happen to sway public support for war.
That's tantamount to concluding someone must have committed murder because they once received a speeding ticket.
There is no perspective.
Those purporting this theory are completely warped by their hatred of Bush and/or the American government.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,995
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
Location: Florida, Hurricane Central
August 30th, 2006, 06:34 PM
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This is an exert from an article by Rex Murphy in the Globe and Mail, July 15, 2006. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)
True, get a life, don't ask questions, don't argue,don't cross the line,just shut up, and let others dictates what you should believe.Wow great society you guys want to live in.
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Well said.
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We had swiftly learned the identities of all 19 hijackers. We had seen, in (alas) real time, the buildings collapse, we had seen the heroic efforts of the firefighters and police in New York, we have since read and heard of the numerous cellphone conversations before the brave passengers of Flight 93 tried to wrest control of the doomed jet from the hijackers. We have seen the video of Osama as he narrates his success and takes pride in his dear accomplishments.
What else is there, the reasonable mind pleads to ask? But no. The questioning of 9/11 is a full-blown industry on the Internet. The buildings didn’t collapse because two fuel-loaded jets crashed into them; Flight 93 was brought down with a missile - the fantasies spin on. Books have been written telling the “real truth” of the day.
One truly bizarre, or comic, on-line posting conducts an experiment (with pictures) using rabbit wire, a concrete cinder block, and a container of kerosene to “prove” the steel pillars of the trade towers would not have melted in in the fires that followed the crash. Engineers who have visited this site have left jibbering and in tears.
Bush was behind 9/11. The Israelis were behind 9/11. Bush and the Israelis were behind 9/11. Osama didn’t do it. Thousands of people engineered a controlled demolition of the towers; the hijacked jets crashing into them were no more than elaborate version of the street magician’s “bait and switch.”
I cannot comprehend what tilt of mind refuses the tidal wave of tragic facts about that horrible day in favour of near-lunatic and unmoored speculation. The answer has to be the hatred of the US President George Bush has, amongst the most who despise him, reached incandescent proportions, and has merged with that strain of free-wheeling paranoia that is an undercurrent of much of our modern times. Hating Mr. Bush ferociously, and believing the truth is always “Out There” (never in front of your face), has produced a monstrous fable of conspiracy, cover-up, sinister motivations and an all-controlling apparatus that has abused the world and engaged in two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), all for some agenda that, in the minds of many conspirators works for the benefit of (who else?) Israel and the Jews.
The 9/11 conspiracy theories - whether those who peddle them are aware of it or not - trail in the spurious and repulsive wake of that arch-conspiracy, the demented Protocols of the Elder Zion. One would have thought the last century had got us past that fantasy-hoax.
We had swiftly learned the identities of all 19 hijackers. We had seen, in (alas) real time, the buildings collapse, we had seen the heroic efforts of the firefighters and police in New York, we have since read and heard of the numerous cellphone conversations before the brave passengers of Flight 93 tried to wrest control of the doomed jet from the hijackers. We have seen the video of Osama as he narrates his success and takes pride in his dear accomplishments.
What else is there, the reasonable mind pleads to ask? But no. The questioning of 9/11 is a full-blown industry on the Internet. The buildings didn’t collapse because two fuel-loaded jets crashed into them; Flight 93 was brought down with a missile - the fantasies spin on. Books have been written telling the “real truth” of the day.
One truly bizarre, or comic, on-line posting conducts an experiment (with pictures) using rabbit wire, a concrete cinder block, and a container of kerosene to “prove” the steel pillars of the trade towers would not have melted in in the fires that followed the crash. Engineers who have visited this site have left jibbering and in tears.
Bush was behind 9/11. The Israelis were behind 9/11. Bush and the Israelis were behind 9/11. Osama didn’t do it. Thousands of people engineered a controlled demolition of the towers; the hijacked jets crashing into them were no more than elaborate version of the street magician’s “bait and switch.”
I cannot comprehend what tilt of mind refuses the tidal wave of tragic facts about that horrible day in favour of near-lunatic and unmoored speculation. The answer has to be the hatred of the US President George Bush has, amongst the most who despise him, reached incandescent proportions, and has merged with that strain of free-wheeling paranoia that is an undercurrent of much of our modern times. Hating Mr. Bush ferociously, and believing the truth is always “Out There” (never in front of your face), has produced a monstrous fable of conspiracy, cover-up, sinister motivations and an all-controlling apparatus that has abused the world and engaged in two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), all for some agenda that, in the minds of many conspirators works for the benefit of (who else?) Israel and the Jews.
The 9/11 conspiracy theories - whether those who peddle them are aware of it or not - trail in the spurious and repulsive wake of that arch-conspiracy, the demented Protocols of the Elder Zion. One would have thought the last century had got us past that fantasy-hoax.
August 30th, 2006, 06:58 PM
One of the causes of the conspiracy theories are the conflicts of interest of the Bush/Cheney ticket. They benefit politically from terrorism, I think we can all agree on that. Raise the alarm bells, there they go up in the polls. Whenever there are conflicts of interest people ask questions. That happens everywhere, not just in politics.
One of the causes of the conspiracy theories are the conflicts of interest of the Bush/Cheney ticket. They benefit politically from terrorism, I think we can all agree on that. Raise the alarm bells, there they go up in the polls. Whenever there are conflicts of interest people ask questions. That happens everywhere, not just in politics.
