Metal King
Posts: 1,028 
Location: Golden Horseshoe, Ontario
Location: Golden Horseshoe, Ontario
August 14th, 2006, 08:24 AM
pretty interesting article- it's short but I will only quote the opening paragraph here for smallness-of-copy/paste fans
It mentions radio in the title, but it is pretty broad based and is almost a definitive checklist of control tactics commonly employed pretty much everywheres by the real hardline right-wingers. I am interested in seeing if anyone who objects to this can actually disprove any of it- I hope someone tries to, so as to stimulate discussion
pretty interesting article- it's short but I will only quote the opening paragraph here for smallness-of-copy/paste fans
Quote:
The Authoritarianism of Right-Wing Radio
In his new book “Conservatives Without Conscience,” John Dean describes his journey to discover why some of today’s right-wingers have drifted so far astray from many of the classic notions of conservatism – limited government, limited executive power, reduced foreign entanglements, respect for individual rights, etc. What he found is rather alarming – he concludes that among many of today’s right-wing are streaks of both authoritarianism and a personality type described as “social dominance orientation.”
It mentions radio in the title, but it is pretty broad based and is almost a definitive checklist of control tactics commonly employed pretty much everywheres by the real hardline right-wingers. I am interested in seeing if anyone who objects to this can actually disprove any of it- I hope someone tries to, so as to stimulate discussion
Clever Clogs
Posts: 526
Location: Pointy Rocks
Location: Pointy Rocks
August 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM
On the whole I actually agree with the sentiment about the talkshow hosts. I routinely listen to both Hannity and Limbaugh (Rush has a great sense of humour that is lost on most) and find them quite rude and authoritative. I also listen to CBC and NPR (especially Amy Goodman's (sp?) democracy Now!).
I don't think either extreme has it right, more often reality is complex and an honest assesment is difficult.
Impartial news is rare, I think that it is important to get your news from multiple sources.
I would not want to paint every conservative as authoritarian, more likely those that take jobs as media personalities like to spout their beliefs and would rather not hear what others think.
On the whole I actually agree with the sentiment about the talkshow hosts. I routinely listen to both Hannity and Limbaugh (Rush has a great sense of humour that is lost on most) and find them quite rude and authoritative. I also listen to CBC and NPR (especially Amy Goodman's (sp?) democracy Now!).
I don't think either extreme has it right, more often reality is complex and an honest assesment is difficult.
Impartial news is rare, I think that it is important to get your news from multiple sources.
I would not want to paint every conservative as authoritarian, more likely those that take jobs as media personalities like to spout their beliefs and would rather not hear what others think.
Metal King
Posts: 1,028
Location: Golden Horseshoe, Ontario
Location: Golden Horseshoe, Ontario
August 15th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Yeah, I didn't post this to insult anyone, I was most interested in the segment dealing with how the left-wing radio types can't use the same style and the reasons (well, possible explanations) behind the phenomenon.
it's just an article,tho, not like I'm tryin to start a f-ing religion or anything
Yeah, I didn't post this to insult anyone, I was most interested in the segment dealing with how the left-wing radio types can't use the same style and the reasons (well, possible explanations) behind the phenomenon.
it's just an article,tho, not like I'm tryin to start a f-ing religion or anything
Council Member
Posts: 1,202
Location: Montreal
Location: Montreal
August 15th, 2006, 09:17 AM
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
For these type of people, debating is only a way to boost their big fat and ugly ego.
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
For these type of people, debating is only a way to boost their big fat and ugly ego.
Member
Posts: 197
Location: Sarnia, Ontario
Location: Sarnia, Ontario
August 15th, 2006, 12:08 PM
Quoting
see ann coulter.
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,323
August 15th, 2006, 01:03 PM
I don't know much about rush, but hannity and oreilly are quite hard to beat, the way you describes hannity is really soft from you, from my point of view, there is no word to describes their behavior, they insulted the americans on air before the war in iraq by saying"we expect every american to shut up , and support the troops", it was kind of funny, but at the same time, you ask yourself , what push those guys to say such thing on air?
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On the whole I actually agree with the sentiment about the talkshow hosts. I routinely listen to both Hannity and Limbaugh (Rush has a great sense of humour that is lost on most) and find them quite rude and authoritative. I also listen to CBC and NPR (especially Amy Goodman's (sp?) democracy Now!).
I don't think either extreme has it right, more often reality is complex and an honest assesment is difficult.
Impartial news is rare, I think that it is important to get your news from multiple sources.
I would not want to paint every conservative as authoritarian, more likely those that take jobs as media personalities like to spout their beliefs and would rather not hear what others think.
I don't think either extreme has it right, more often reality is complex and an honest assesment is difficult.
Impartial news is rare, I think that it is important to get your news from multiple sources.
I would not want to paint every conservative as authoritarian, more likely those that take jobs as media personalities like to spout their beliefs and would rather not hear what others think.
I don't know much about rush, but hannity and oreilly are quite hard to beat, the way you describes hannity is really soft from you, from my point of view, there is no word to describes their behavior, they insulted the americans on air before the war in iraq by saying"we expect every american to shut up , and support the troops", it was kind of funny, but at the same time, you ask yourself , what push those guys to say such thing on air?
Super Genius
Posts: 1,323
August 15th, 2006, 01:07 PM
There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man .
there is full evidence.
Quoting
Quoting
see ann coulter.
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man .
there is full evidence.
Member
Posts: 197
Location: Sarnia, Ontario
Location: Sarnia, Ontario
August 15th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man . there is full evidence.
That would help explain her/his Adam's apple.
Quoting
Quoting
see ann coulter.
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man .
there is full evidence.
Electoral Member
Posts: 408
Location: hopelessly entagled
Location: hopelessly entagled
August 15th, 2006, 03:49 PM
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There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man . there is full evidence.
i dont think she was a man, but changed radically after her female circumsicion!
Quoting
Quoting
see ann coulter.
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
There is no doubt,before, ann coulter was a man .
there is full evidence.
House Member
Posts: 4,564
Location: Minnesota: Gopher State
Location: Minnesota: Gopher State
August 22nd, 2006, 09:04 PM
Hatemonger Michael Savage called for the extermination of 100 million Muslims but the right wingers did not bother to trouble themselves to criticize him. When it comes to hate, the right wingers always have a field day in their hatred for everyone they don't like.
Hatemonger Michael Savage called for the extermination of 100 million Muslims but the right wingers did not bother to trouble themselves to criticize him. When it comes to hate, the right wingers always have a field day in their hatred for everyone they don't like.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
August 23rd, 2006, 10:03 AM
"Do you want vanilla or chocolate ice cream?"
"Chocolate, please"
"Chocolate! don't you know Hitler liked chocolate ice cream!"
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Good point. Most western democracies have pluralistic societies in which the left and right, conservative and liberal, social democrat and free enterprise, etc. aren't all that far apart in philosophy. More of variations within a range of thinking. Populations usually split at no more than 60-40 or 55-45 splits in elections.
I find it sad when either side (left ot right) starts using insults and demonizing techniques to get their point across. Always ends up giving stupid and useless debates in which no common ground can be reached.
For these type of people, debating is only a way to boost their big fat and ugly ego.
For these type of people, debating is only a way to boost their big fat and ugly ego.
"Do you want vanilla or chocolate ice cream?"
"Chocolate, please"
"Chocolate! don't you know Hitler liked chocolate ice cream!"
