Democrats In The Wilderness

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On the eve of Trump's Presidential Inauguration the Democrat Party finds itself aimlessly wandering the wilderness.

Democrats in the Wilderness - POLITICO Magazine

"Standing with some 30,000 people in front of Independence Hall in Philadelphia the night before the election watching Hillary Clinton speak, exhausted aides were already worrying about what would come next. They expected her to win, of course, but they knew President Clinton was going to get thrashed in the 2018 midterms—the races were tilted in Republicans’ favor, and that’s when they thought the backlash would really hit. Many assumed she’d be a one-term president. They figured she’d get a primary challenge. Some of them had already started gaming out names for who it would be."



"What happened the next night shocked even the most pessimistic Democrats..."
 

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The Democrats’ desolation is staggering. But part of the problem is that it’s easy to point to signs that maybe things aren’t so bad. After all, Clinton did beat Trump by 2.8 million votes, Obama’s approval rating is nearly 60 percent, polls show Democrats way ahead of the GOP on many issues and demographics suggest that gap will only grow. But they are stuck in the minority in Congress with no end in sight, have only 16 governors left and face 32 state legislatures fully under GOP control. Their top leaders in the House are all over 70. Their top leaders in the Senate are all over 60. Under Obama, Democrats have lost 1,034 seats at the state and federal level—there’s no bench, no bench for a bench, virtually no one able to speak for the party as a whole.
Democrats in the Wilderness - POLITICO Magazine

the pole numbers in the above do not appear to match the real numbers in the above
 

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With a republican president, I expect them to make gains in 2018 & 2020 just because people vote against the presidential party (at least they have historically).
 

Danbones

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Guess he's fed up with his people being shot at by Obomba, the CIA, and Hitlery's isis friends, who are in the employ of the US goobermint
 

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The leadership ran into trouble they have to regroup, remember the Liberal Party of
Canada? Wilderness no they were in the political penalty box and they are government
again. In New Brunswick under Hatfield the Liberals won every seat in the House
they are back in power. And if Trump does not change his ways the Republicans will be
hammered in a few years.
The problem is bigger for Republicans they have some crazy people with ideas that will run
against the mind set of America and if they implement them to satisfy their base the backlash
will be political death as it were.
The beginning of the end will come when they tamper with Obamacare
 

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Trump is a POPULIST leader, and if they replace obama care with something not written by big pharma and the insurance companies, the US peeps will be kissing his butt to run again in the next election.
 

EagleSmack

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And if Trump does not change his ways the Republicans will be
hammered in a few years.

So what got him elected is going to get him hammered. Got it.


The problem is bigger for Republicans they have some crazy people with ideas that will run
against the mind set of America and if they implement them to satisfy their base the backlash
will be political death as it were.

It was a heck of a lot more than the GOP base that got him in.

The beginning of the end will come when they tamper with Obamacare

Geez! Obamacare is one of the main reasons the Democrats are in the position they're in!

The beginning of the end comes when he doesn't do what he says he'll do.

With a republican president, I expect them to make gains in 2018 & 2020 just because people vote against the presidential party (at least they have historically).

If you look at the line up for the next midterms the GOP looks like they're in a good position.

BONE ON! fo big daddy Troomp. Who's ye daddy eaglecrack :),

Awww... LittleHo is still butthurt that his candidate Hillary won't be the President tomorrow.

More glorious snippets from the article....

"But in another sense, it was the reckoning the party had been expecting for years. They were counting on a Clinton win to paper over a deeper rot they’ve been worrying about—and to buy them some time to start coming up with answers. In other words, it wasn’t just Donald Trump. Or the Russians. Or James Comey. Or all the problems with how Clinton and her aides ran the campaign. Win or lose, Democrats were facing an existential crisis in the years ahead—the result of years of complacency, ignoring the withering of the grass roots and the state parties, sitting by as Republicans racked up local win after local win."
 

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The Democrats have been wandering in the wilderness for a long, long time.
They won the popular vote only because the few States that favored Clinton had the larger populations. They did not win in the majority of States, the ones that made the difference. Popular vote doesn't mean a thing under the U.S. system.
Polls are nuts! If Obama's popularity is so high and the Democrats are so popular as the polls indicate, why didn't they win the Election? Clinton was pledged to carry on Obama's policies.
Reality tells a truer story than polls ever will.
 

EagleSmack

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The Democrats have been wandering in the wilderness for a long, long time.

As the article pointed out...

They thought they had more time.


Polls are nuts! If Obama's popularity is so high and the Democrats are so popular as the polls indicate, why didn't they win the Election? Clinton was pledged to carry on Obama's policies.
Reality tells a truer story than polls ever will.
So true.

Luckily for America the Democrats still believe polls and will double down on their message of hate and division thus alienating even more from their ranks.

Yet more from the article...

"What’s clear from interviews with several dozen top Democratic politicians and operatives at all levels, however, is that there is no comeback strategy—just a collection of half-formed ideas, all of them challenged by reality. And for whatever scheme they come up with, Democrats don’t even have a flag-carrier. Barack Obama? He doesn’t want the job. Hillary Clinton? Too damaged. Bernie Sanders? Too socialist. Joe Biden? Too tied to Obama. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer? Too Washington. Elizabeth Warren? Maybe. And all of them old, old, old"
 

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Mistakes and poor values early in his administration inflicted irreversible damage. When the economic crisis hit, he took sides with the bankers over their victims. The nation still hasn’t recovered.

Just a couple of months into his first term he called a meeting of banking executives. “The president had us at a moment of real vulnerability,” one of them told Ron Suskind in his book Confidence Men.

“At that point, he could have ordered us to do just about anything and we would have rolled over. But he didn’t – he mostly wanted to help us out, to quell the mob.” People lost their homes while bankers kept their bonuses and banks kept their profits.

How Barack Obama paved the way for Donald Trump
 

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The anguish is measurable on this GLORIOUS DAY!


Enjoy another portion of the article...

"Most doubt Democrats have the stamina or the stomach for the kind of cohesive resistance that Republicans perfected over the years. In their guts, they want to say yes to government doing things, and they’re already getting drawn in by promises to work with Trump and the Republican majorities. They’re heading into the next elections with their brains scrambled by Trump’s win, side-eyeing one another over who’s going to sell out the rest, nervous the incoming president will keep outmaneuvering them in the media and throw up more targets than they could ever hope to shoot at—and all of this from an election that was supposed to cement their claim on the future."
 

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Notice that the salt in most photos is on the left? :lol:

 

davesmom

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The Democrats did the same as the Liberals here did under Chretien. They took on the attitude of entitlement and thought they were too powerful to ever be replaced. It almost wiped them out completely at one point.
I imagine even the most complacent can reach a point when they have just 'had enough'.
 

EagleSmack

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The Democrats did the same as the Liberals here did under Chretien. They took on the attitude of entitlement and thought they were too powerful to ever be replaced. It almost wiped them out completely at one point.
I imagine even the most complacent can reach a point when they have just 'had enough'.

So true.

They read their own press, they believe their own polls, they drink the kool-aid and they believe that they are indestructible. The fools never realize that politics is cyclical. Conservatives know that politics are cyclical.

Eight years ago the Democrats thought that they would rule forever. In two years they lost the House and many state governors, four years later they lost the Senate, and two years later they lost the Presidency and find themselves completely out of power and "In the Wilderness".
 

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So true.

They read their own press, they believe their own polls, they drink the kool-aid and they believe that they are indestructible. The fools never realize that politics is cyclical. Conservatives know that politics are cyclical.

Eight years ago the Democrats thought that they would rule forever. In two years they lost the House and many state governors, four years later they lost the Senate, and two years later they lost the Presidency and find themselves completely out of power and "In the Wilderness".
Not only in the wilderness , they have no up and comers to take over . They are stuck with a bunch of old white people to lead them out of the wilderness . We have seen how that has been working .

President Donald J. Trump . BOOMer must be having fits .