The Polls were RIGHT

mentalfloss

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Poor ES.

I'm sure you'll get over it little buddy. ;)


Clinton’s Substantial Popular-Vote Win

Hillary Clinton didn’t just win the popular vote. She won it by a substantial margin.

By the time all the ballots are counted, she seems likely to be ahead by more than 2 million votes and more than 1.5 percentage points, according to my Times colleague Nate Cohn. She will have won by a wider percentage margin than not only Al Gore in 2000 but also Richard Nixon in 1968 and John F. Kennedy in 1960.

These comparisons — and I know they’re painful for many people to hear — highlight a dilemma for the suddenly bereft Democratic Party.

The soul-searching about the Democrats’ loss of the white working class is just beginning, as it should. Presidential races aren’t won and lost on the national popular vote, nor is control of the House and Senate. None of that is going to change, and Democrats need to find ways to win in the world that exists, rather than the more small-d democratic world that many of us would prefer.

Figuring out how to win more white working-class votes, especially in the Midwest, has to be at the center of any Democratic comeback plan. That plan obviously should include policy ideas to address the stagnation afflicting many working-class communities. Maybe even more, it needs to find the right language — both respectful and visceral — in which to talk with these communities. Clinton didn’t lose to Donald Trump because he had a more serious set of policies for revitalizing working-class America.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/1...-vote-win.html?referer=https://www.google.ca/
 
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Cannuck

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Re: Clinton’s Substantial Popular-Vote WIN

The real issue is why did so many supposedly right-wing people vote for a candidate with left-wing economic ideas? Could it be that they don't understand or maybe its just that they don't care.
 

mentalfloss

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Re: Clinton’s Substantial Popular-Vote WIN

It's because they're racist rurals that sincerely loathed a black president.

And Eaglesmack is one of them.
 

petros

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Presidential races aren’t won and lost on the national popular vote, nor is control of the House and Senate. None of that is going to change, and Democrats need to find ways to win in the world that exists

The white women have spoken.
 

PoliticalNick

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Poor ES.

I'm sure you'll get over it little buddy. ;)


Clinton’s Substantial Popular-Vote Win

Hillary Clinton didn’t just win the popular vote. She won it by a substantial margin.

By the time all the ballots are counted, she seems likely to be ahead by more than 2 million votes and more than 1.5 percentage points, according to my Times colleague Nate Cohn. She will have won by a wider percentage margin than not only Al Gore in 2000 but also Richard Nixon in 1968 and John F. Kennedy in 1960.

These comparisons — and I know they’re painful for many people to hear — highlight a dilemma for the suddenly bereft Democratic Party.

The soul-searching about the Democrats’ loss of the white working class is just beginning, as it should. Presidential races aren’t won and lost on the national popular vote, nor is control of the House and Senate. None of that is going to change, and Democrats need to find ways to win in the world that exists, rather than the more small-d democratic world that many of us would prefer.

Figuring out how to win more white working-class votes, especially in the Midwest, has to be at the center of any Democratic comeback plan. That plan obviously should include policy ideas to address the stagnation afflicting many working-class communities. Maybe even more, it needs to find the right language — both respectful and visceral — in which to talk with these communities. Clinton didn’t lose to Donald Trump because he had a more serious set of policies for revitalizing working-class America.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/1...-vote-win.html?referer=https://www.google.ca/

Sorry `little buddy` but as the number is 395,595 not 2 million. Nice try though dipsh!t!

Latest Popular Vote Results 2016: Hillary Clinton Has Almost 400,000 More Votes Than Winner Donald Trump

The real issue is why did so many supposedly right-wing people vote for a candidate with left-wing economic ideas? Could it be that they don't understand or maybe its just that they don't care.

Fiscal conservatism is not a left wing ideal. I know you guys are grabbing at any straw to make yourselves feel better but it`s probably best to stop looking foolish and stupid and just go to your safe space to cry for a while.

 

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I’m sure some Clinton supporters who are refusing to face facts will say, “They would have called him a socialist.”


Well, guess what, they called Hillary a socialist. They called Obama pretty much everything you could think of and likely things you never thought of.....

A large sample nationwide poll taken just before the general election shows Bernie Sanders would have beaten Donald Trump by historic margins.

“The national survey of more than 1,600 registered voters, conducted by Gravis Marketing two days before the general election, found that Sanders would have received 56 percent of the vote while Trump would have won 44 percent.”
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”Crucially, independent voters, who made up nearly one-third of the general election voters this year, favored Sanders over Trump, 55 percent to 45 percent, the poll found. Hillary Clinton by contrast, lost independents 48 percent to 42 percent, according to exit polls.”

www.huffingtonpost.com/…


 

Cannuck

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Fiscal conservatism is not a left wing ideal.

Well, it shouldn't be but, considering the self-professed right-wingers on this forum have railed against one politician that had some fiscally conservative policies while supporting a candidate with more leftist policies, it would appear that fiscal conservatism isn't a right wing ideal either. Or maybe its just that the self professed right-wingers here don't know what they're talking about
 

pgs

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In dumbocrat speak left is right , up is down , and what I said yesterday was a lie , and what difference does it make .

Well, it shouldn't be but, considering the self-professed right-wingers on this forum have railed against one politician that had some fiscally conservative policies while supporting a candidate with more leftist policies, it would appear that fiscal conservatism isn't a right wing ideal either. Or maybe its just that the self professed right-wingers here don't know what they're talking about
The people didn't vote for left or right they voted for an outsider . No one spent anytime comparing economic plans . All we saw was Trump bashing , and you bought it hook line and sinker .

Go cry yourself to sleep in your fire engine red helmut little boy .
 

Curious Cdn

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So, when Trump is impeached next year, does that dim bulb VP of his become President? You know, the one that thinks the Flintstones is a documentary?
 
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pgs

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So, when Trump is impeached next year, does that dim bulb VP of his become President? You know, the one that thinks the Flintstones is a documentary?
Are you an Oracle ? Why can you not predict the whole scenario ?
 

davesmom

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Why talk as if the candidate who won the popular vote and lost the election is the first and only one it ever happened to. It has happened before and will no doubt happen again under the American voting process.
It's the Electoral Collage votes that elect the President. Get over it!
 

mentalfloss

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Stop reminiscing about your childhood and just move up here already. :lol: