Americans worried refugees in Canada will sneak across border

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Americans worried refugees in Canada will sneak across border



HAVRE, Mont. - Standing two feet from Canada on windswept Montana prairie land, U.S. Border Patrol agent Andrew Herdina looks out over a line of crooked old fence posts with no wire between them -- the international border.

"If somebody is set on doing it, there are plenty of opportunities to cross this border," said Herdina, surrounded by a vast expanse of prairie grass where there were no border posts, or checkpoints, or any visible signs of security.

With U.S. security concerns heightened following the attacks in Paris claimed by Islamic State, the relatively porous state of America's northern border has attracted little attention as politicians, mostly Republicans, have attacked U.S. President Barack Obama's plans to allow in 10,000 Syrian refugees.

But in Montana, which shares a 500-mile (800-km) border with Canada, border agents and some residents say they are concerned about Ottawa's plan to bring in 25,000 Syrians by year-end, even though the government there insists its screening will be thorough and there are limited indications that militants may be seeking to use refugee status to cross borders.

The world's longest shared land border attracts a fraction of the U.S. attention and security resources taken up by the much shorter southern border with Mexico, which is patrolled by 18,000 U.S. border agents compared to 2,200 in the north.

The National Border Patrol Council, the border patrol union, says at least another 2,000 agents are needed on the Canadian border, which runs 5,500 miles from Alaska to Washington State and Maine. Herdina says the most effective tool in tracking illegal border crossers is not the border agents or surveillance airplanes; it's the roughly 100 ranchers who span Montana's border with Canada.

"They are our best asset," said Herdina, who is vice-president of the Montana branch of the union.

Last year, one rancher called the border patrol to report two strangers on his land, Herdina said. They were two Guatemalans who had crossed the border illegally.

Janas Strauser, owner of 66 Ranch on the border, said: "The people up here will report people who cross the border. The ranchers and farmers call them in."

While the border patrol union has a stake in securing more jobs and funding, its view was supported by a 2011 report by the Government Accountability Office, a non-partisan congressional watchdog, which found that only 32 miles of the border was properly secure and that the security risks were genuine.

"The terrorist threat on the northern border is higher (than on the Mexican border), given the large expanse of area with limited law enforcement coverage," the report said.

The White House referred questions about the security of the northern border to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

The DHS referred Reuters to its website, which notes that the number of U.S. agents on the northern border has jumped from just 340 in 2001 and that its technological capabilities have "greatly improved." The U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) says it now deploys fixed and rotary-wing aircraft equipped with sensors, thermal camera systems, remote videos and drones to help secure the border.

"There is no way you can make it totally secure," said Andrew Finn, program associate with the Canada Institute at the Wilson Center, a Washington DC-based think tank. "You always have to think about the terrorist threat, although the vetting process for refugees into Canada is quite thorough."

'HYSTERIA AND EXAGGERATION'

Obama has denounced the "hysteria and exaggeration of risk" over Syrian refugees, who already face a rigorous U.S. vetting process. Most of the attackers in Paris are believed to be have been European residents rather than new immigrants, though authorities are investigating if one travelled as a refugee.

Newly elected Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is standing by his pledge to allow 25,000 Syrian refugees into Canada by Jan. 1. Current and former Canadian security sources told Reuters last week that corners would have to be cut on security screening due to the accelerated process.

Canada experienced two attacks by radical Muslims in 2014, and reluctance in provinces such as Quebec to accept Syrian refugees is raising concern of a growing social rift with Muslim minorities.

In 1999, Algerian national Ahmed Ressam was apprehended crossing from Canada into the United States and convicted in 2001 for plotting to bomb Los Angeles airport.

Alan Bersin, then head of the Customs and Border Protection Commission, told a Senate committee in 2011 that more people with ties to terrorist organizations have crossed into the U.S. from Canada than from Mexico. He did not give any specific details.

Herdina says he has apprehended Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans and Canadians crossing remote parts of the border.

"We have no idea how these Syrians will be vetted by the Canadians. We need a lot more agents here," he said.

Jonathan Perkins, a border patrol agent who is an advisor to the national union and who used to work on the Canada border, said: "It is a very porous border. We are greatly understaffed there."

According to the CBP, 3,338 people were arrested trying to cross the Canadian border in 2014. Of those, 1,673 were from countries other than Mexico.

Last week, a bipartisan bill passed the U.S. House of Representatives requiring an analysis of terrorism threats posed by people trying to enter America through the Canadian border. A similar bipartisan Senate bill awaits a vote.

Over 3,000 of the refugees entering Canada are slated to settle in Alberta province, north of Montana.

In Havre, Mont., 40 miles south of Canada, Jenny Van Cleve, a waitress, says she is scared about the arrival of the Syrian refugees into Canada.

"The border is so easy to cross, pretty much anywhere. And there are abandoned houses all over the place to hide out in. We have farmer friends who find people in their buildings all the time. It's scary."

source: Americans worried refugees in Canada will sneak across border | Canada | News |

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Seems Scott Walker had it right, build a border fence on the Northern Border.. Under Trudeau Canada will just become a unemployed overtaxed wasteland anyhow.. it's clearly on it way out west.
 

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The refugees have gone through hell in their quest for safety. LGBT Syrian refugees have the added danger of Daesh using its radicalized ideologies to promote homophobia. Gay men have been beheaded, which has led at least one gay Syrian refugee to sell his kidney to escape Iran.

And instead of aiding these refugees from a war we helped create with the invasion of Iraq in 2003, many prominent Americans are partaking in sodomy.

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson compared the refugees to rabid dogs in an attempt to express his concern over possible threats the refugees could pose. Another Republican presidential candidate, Chris Christie, said he would not even consider accepting orphan refugees under 5 years of age. Rhode Island state Sen. Elaine Morgan suggested segregated camps for refugees. The list of atrocious comparisons and denials for refugees continue to grow

Ironically, many of these standing against the refugees politicize their Christian beliefs on a slew of social issues. Yet what most of these Christian officials don’t realize is in advocating against aiding Syrian refugees they are partaking in biblical sodomy.

An important history lesson: The term sodomy is inaccurately used to describe **** sex, both by progressives and right-wing pundits. The term came from the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah, cities said to be so sinful and evil that God destroyed them. Traditional interpretations have presumed the sin of Sodom was gay sex due to the story of Lot and his daughters, but that’s a misnomer.

Genesis 19:4-8 says, “Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.' Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, 'No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.

Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them.'”
Indeed, this passage speaks on same-sex rape, and this is what conservative Christians pinpoint as the “sin of Sodom,” while completely ignoring the fact that Lot — a man of God — offered his two virgin daughters to be gang-raped (but those are just details).

In Ezekiel 16: 49-50, Scripture says, “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.”

So what did the Bible label as the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? Not same-sex sexual relations, but being “overfed and unconcerned”; not helping the poor and needy, being inhospitable.

Sodom was not destroyed because it was filled with gay sex. It was destroyed because the town was so vile and hostile to strangers that all men (note: the Bible doesn’t say just the men who had same-sex attractions but all men).

Jesus, in Matthew Chapter 10, refers back to Sodom, when telling his disciples of the fate that would fall on any town that refused to give them shelter or aid. Like the strangers visiting Lot — and many people in need today — Jesus’ disciples went out without food, extra clothing, or any place to stay at night.

In Hebrews 13: 2, Scripture reminds us, “Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it,” a clear reference to the angels Lot protected. In Isaiah Chapter 1 we see a prescription for the sin of Sodom. In verse 17, scripture states, “Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.”

Then in the Gospel, in case those references were not clear enough, Jesus really nails it in a chapter referred to as the “Judgment of Nations.” In this passage, Jesus tells his apostles that what they did to the “least of these” they did for him — emphasizing the need for us to welcome those in need with food, shelter, and clothing. The consequence for those refusing to help people in need? A fate worse than Sodom's.

Of course, it is not just conservatives, Republicans, or Christians who are engaging in sodomy. The GOP-led U.S. House voted to keep Syrian refugees out, and 55 Democrats supported the bill. It’s just particularly ironic that the majority of public officials who are rejecting refugees spend a large portion of their time promoting their "Bible-based" beliefs.

But perhaps only they can quote Scripture accurately.

Christians Denying Syrian Refugees Is Sodomy in Action | Advocate.com
 

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I am worried that the traffic of refugees will continue in the other direction, with them sneaking over the border into Canada from the US. It is already happening.

Winnipeg ministry dealing with influx of Somali refugee claimants - Manitoba - CBC News

"Tom Denton of Hospitality House said, on average, about 50 refugees sneak across the border near Emerson every month.

He said that's 10 times higher than a year ago.

"Last year, I think we had something like 55 or 56 people in a year, and now that many are coming up a month," he said. "There's been quite an increase in the flow.

He said many refugees who are ordered to leave the U.S. can't present at the Canadian border in an official way.

"The people who came clandestinely down the road through a farmer's field, well that was OK. Then, they were making their claims inside Canada," said Denton."


It's happening at other border points, too ... in the Eastern Townships in Quebec, on the prairies. We are the ones that should be worried about the hundreds of thousands that the Americans let in.
 

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Well at least he got that part right..



We already have Black Ghettos, when they have Muslim Ghottos and they start rioting.. look back on this day.
You suggesting kids and women will sneak into the US, the place that is the root of all their misery? If you were trying for a new level of stupid you have achieved your goal, . . . and then some.
 

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It's a very hysterical culture.. America.

Since the Salem Witchhunts.. the Ku Klux Klan attacks on blacks and Catholics.. the HUAC red persecutions.. the prosecutions of 'Satanic Cults' in the 90s.. and now terrorists transiting through Canada (most still believe all the 9/11 terrorist got in by way of Canada.. all were in the U.S. on legal student visas .. learnig how to fly).

Americans obsess that spectres of evil are intruding into their pristine and perfect American Way. They don't like it.. and they are armed to teeth.
 
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Welcome to how America murders their own these days. AB calls it hunting season. Missing is when you get covered in honey and set loose in bear country
 

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Americans worried refugees in Canada will sneak across border



HAVRE, Mont. - Standing two feet from Canada on windswept Montana prairie land, U.S. Border Patrol agent Andrew Herdina looks out over a line of crooked old fence posts with no wire between them -- the international border.

"If somebody is set on doing it, there are plenty of opportunities to cross this border," said Herdina, surrounded by a vast expanse of prairie grass where there were no border posts, or checkpoints, or any visible signs of security.

With U.S. security concerns heightened following the attacks in Paris claimed by Islamic State, the relatively porous state of America's northern border has attracted little attention as politicians, mostly Republicans, have attacked U.S. President Barack Obama's plans to allow in 10,000 Syrian refugees.

But in Montana, which shares a 500-mile (800-km) border with Canada, border agents and some residents say they are concerned about Ottawa's plan to bring in 25,000 Syrians by year-end, even though the government there insists its screening will be thorough and there are limited indications that militants may be seeking to use refugee status to cross borders.

The world's longest shared land border attracts a fraction of the U.S. attention and security resources taken up by the much shorter southern border with Mexico, which is patrolled by 18,000 U.S. border agents compared to 2,200 in the north.

The National Border Patrol Council, the border patrol union, says at least another 2,000 agents are needed on the Canadian border, which runs 5,500 miles from Alaska to Washington State and Maine. Herdina says the most effective tool in tracking illegal border crossers is not the border agents or surveillance airplanes; it's the roughly 100 ranchers who span Montana's border with Canada.

"They are our best asset," said Herdina, who is vice-president of the Montana branch of the union.

Last year, one rancher called the border patrol to report two strangers on his land, Herdina said. They were two Guatemalans who had crossed the border illegally.

Janas Strauser, owner of 66 Ranch on the border, said: "The people up here will report people who cross the border. The ranchers and farmers call them in."

While the border patrol union has a stake in securing more jobs and funding, its view was supported by a 2011 report by the Government Accountability Office, a non-partisan congressional watchdog, which found that only 32 miles of the border was properly secure and that the security risks were genuine.

"The terrorist threat on the northern border is higher (than on the Mexican border), given the large expanse of area with limited law enforcement coverage," the report said.

The White House referred questions about the security of the northern border to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

The DHS referred Reuters to its website, which notes that the number of U.S. agents on the northern border has jumped from just 340 in 2001 and that its technological capabilities have "greatly improved." The U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) says it now deploys fixed and rotary-wing aircraft equipped with sensors, thermal camera systems, remote videos and drones to help secure the border.

"There is no way you can make it totally secure," said Andrew Finn, program associate with the Canada Institute at the Wilson Center, a Washington DC-based think tank. "You always have to think about the terrorist threat, although the vetting process for refugees into Canada is quite thorough."

'HYSTERIA AND EXAGGERATION'

Obama has denounced the "hysteria and exaggeration of risk" over Syrian refugees, who already face a rigorous U.S. vetting process. Most of the attackers in Paris are believed to be have been European residents rather than new immigrants, though authorities are investigating if one travelled as a refugee.

Newly elected Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is standing by his pledge to allow 25,000 Syrian refugees into Canada by Jan. 1. Current and former Canadian security sources told Reuters last week that corners would have to be cut on security screening due to the accelerated process.

Canada experienced two attacks by radical Muslims in 2014, and reluctance in provinces such as Quebec to accept Syrian refugees is raising concern of a growing social rift with Muslim minorities.

In 1999, Algerian national Ahmed Ressam was apprehended crossing from Canada into the United States and convicted in 2001 for plotting to bomb Los Angeles airport.

Alan Bersin, then head of the Customs and Border Protection Commission, told a Senate committee in 2011 that more people with ties to terrorist organizations have crossed into the U.S. from Canada than from Mexico. He did not give any specific details.

Herdina says he has apprehended Mexicans, Cubans, Guatemalans and Canadians crossing remote parts of the border.

"We have no idea how these Syrians will be vetted by the Canadians. We need a lot more agents here," he said.

Jonathan Perkins, a border patrol agent who is an advisor to the national union and who used to work on the Canada border, said: "It is a very porous border. We are greatly understaffed there."

According to the CBP, 3,338 people were arrested trying to cross the Canadian border in 2014. Of those, 1,673 were from countries other than Mexico.

Last week, a bipartisan bill passed the U.S. House of Representatives requiring an analysis of terrorism threats posed by people trying to enter America through the Canadian border. A similar bipartisan Senate bill awaits a vote.

Over 3,000 of the refugees entering Canada are slated to settle in Alberta province, north of Montana.

In Havre, Mont., 40 miles south of Canada, Jenny Van Cleve, a waitress, says she is scared about the arrival of the Syrian refugees into Canada.

"The border is so easy to cross, pretty much anywhere. And there are abandoned houses all over the place to hide out in. We have farmer friends who find people in their buildings all the time. It's scary."

source: Americans worried refugees in Canada will sneak across border | Canada | News |

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Seems Scott Walker had it right, build a border fence on the Northern Border.. Under Trudeau Canada will just become a unemployed overtaxed wasteland anyhow.. it's clearly on it way out west.
:roll: Build a wall, we can import some Syrian people to build it.
 

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No killing. But we could certainly build one hell of a wall from the bovine poo aned other paranoid nonsense that gets flung around a lot.