America has never recovered from Ronald Reagan

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Of course, capitalists never come out and say that they want the government to get out of their way so that they can take advantage of workers or employ children or contaminate the water supply. They fear-monger about the threat of socialism and claim that as long as the government intervenes with their business, we can never have true freedom.

A young propagandist named Ronald Reagan issued such a warning in the early sixties, in opposition to what is seen as the predecessor to Medicare. “Federal programs,” Reagan warned, “will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country, until one day… we will wake to find that we have socialism.” Sounds familiar.

Today, we have “economic royalists” like the Koch brothers who, with their billions, fund the myths that have long sat in opposition to the social programs and market regulations that helped create the middle class. “A truly free society is based on a vision of respect for people and what they value,” said Charles Koch in a Wall Street Journal editorial last year, “In a truly free society, any business that disrespects its customers will fail, and deserves to do so. The same should be true of any government that disrespects its citizens.”

Koch puts forth the idea that an unregulated free market (or what he calls a “truly free society”) would solve most of society’s problems, and that any business — such as Koch Industries — that disrespects its customers will fail. There are many reasons why this is wrong. First of all, what is disrespecting a customer? Wrecking the environment? Violating safety regulations that end up killing innocent Americans? In that case, Koch Industries would have surely failed in a “truly free society” by now. Except it wouldn’t. When a corporation is as big and diversified as Koch Industries, most customers don’t even know when they’re buying a product from them (you may very well be using a Koch product in your own household), and “ethical consumerism” is, unfortunately, more myth than reality (consumers tend to look for the best deals before looking for products that comply with their moral code).

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America has never recovered from Ronald Reagan. That’s why Bernie Sanders is so important. - Salon.com
 

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Of course, capitalists never come out and say that they want the government to get out of their way so that they can take advantage of workers or employ children or contaminate the water supply. They fear-monger about the threat of socialism and claim that as long as the government intervenes with their business, we can never have true freedom.

A young propagandist named Ronald Reagan issued such a warning in the early sixties, in opposition to what is seen as the predecessor to Medicare. “Federal programs,” Reagan warned, “will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country, until one day… we will wake to find that we have socialism.” Sounds familiar.
Sounds pretty horrible.

Maybe you should move to Canada.
 

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Much of what Charlie says is true. MUch of what salon says is fearmongering. In a free society a company that made defective products or violated safety rules would be sued out of existence.
 

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Much of what Charlie says is true. MUch of what salon says is fearmongering. In a free society a company that made defective products or violated safety rules would be sued out of existence.
What exactly do you see as fear mongering in the article? I'd love if you could elaborate.
 

AnnaG

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Much of what Charlie says is true. MUch of what salon says is fearmongering. In a free society a company that made defective products or violated safety rules would be sued out of existence.
... or else would go 11th chapter and end up getting corporate welfare.
 

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It would be nice to think that a self regulating free market would produce corporations that were beyond reproach and never screwed anyone over. Unfortunately people get by with what they can. If you're ever on the freeway count the number of people driving the speed limit. I'll have to quote the great Jim Carey in the movie Liar Liar . If you want government out of your business practices,,,,~ Stop Breaking The Law A$$hole!~
 
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AnnaG

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Egg Zachary
And I might add, quit lobbying gov't for favours. If you cannot make it on your own merit, F the hell off and die.
 

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Egg Zachary
And I might add, quit lobbying gov't for favours. If you cannot make it on your own merit, F the hell off and die.
Well that's business as usual though. Human nature isn't always negative but, seems as though things have been conditioned to be that way .

I'm sure the Reagan gang gave out plenty of favors and I'm also fairly convince that those favors were not for free. :). How's that for being jaded. :).
 

AnnaG

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Ah, but. . .

"If you cannot make it on your own merit, F the hell off and die."
Yup. I was referring to companies, not people. Societies were developed for the benefit of all the people in them. Businesses were developed for the benefit of profiting a few people.
 

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... or else would go 11th chapter and end up getting corporate welfare.

In a true free society there would be no ch. 11 and no corporate welfare.

What exactly do you see as fear mongering in the article? I'd love if you could elaborate.

Click on the link and read it. If you can't figure it out on yoiur own you are either an idelog or an idiot. I'd go with idiot.
 

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I wonder if Reagan was a snitch against his fellow actors during the McCarthy era? Did he point the finger at "communists" to win brownie points during the witch hunts? (According the the KGB archives, they turned exactly zero actors, writers and anybody elses in Hollywood.)
 

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In a true free society there would be no ch. 11 and no corporate welfare.



Click on the link and read it. If you can't figure it out on yoiur own you are either an idelog or an idiot. I'd go with idiot.
I didn't just click the link, I read the article, and the conclusion I came to is you have no idea what the hell fear mongering means or you never read the article yourself.