Bill O'Reilly suggests private military should attack ISIS

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Stewart, Colbert save the day: Bill O’Reilly and Fox News’ ISIS insanity makes them more essential than ever

As the nation continues airstrikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq, the U.S. public is bracing for yet another military conflict in the Middle East. And in order to make sense of this new crisis viewers are finding that “fake news” often offers better analysis than the so-called “real news.” While Fox News’s Eric Bolling called the first female UAE pilot that bombed the Islamic State “boobs on the ground” and coverage on all major news channels mistakenly described ISIS as an imminent threat to the United States, fake news offered the U.S. public a refreshing dose of reality.

Of course, the idea that the fake news is doing it better than the real news should come as no surprise. In recent years we have learned that viewers more and more often perceive “fake” news as “real” news. Viewers trust Jon Stewart more than Brian Williams. And Fox News viewers consistently rank near the bottom of polls on informed viewers, while viewers of shows like “The Colbert Report” know more about contemporary political issues than those consuming mainstream news media.

So why is the “fake” news so good? First of all, in an era when most cable news is overtaken by hype, punditry, and sensationalism, satire news offers viewers a much-needed chance to gain some critical perspective. When the mainstream media droned on that Obama needed to be more aggressive, Stephen Colbert responded by wishing we could have Frank Underwood as president. The gimmick immediately revealed the ridiculous nature of most TV news coverage that uses up airtime bashing the president and avoiding the real issues. Hence satire news often reminds us that the actual topics covered by mainstream news are not helping to inform us.

Secondly, satire news exposes the hypocrisy of political rhetoric on TV news. For example, on the very same news day that Eric Bolling made the outrageous “boobs on the ground” statement, a major portion or TV news time was spent deconstructing Obama’s “latte” salute with Bolling himself calling the salute with coffee in hand disrespectful to the troops.

Stewart pointed out the hypocrisy of Bolling’s attacks on Obama by reminding viewers that Bolling had shown no respect for the female UAE pilot. His point is that, if we should respect troops, then we should respect ALL troops. Stewart called out Bolling saying, “You don’t really care. You don’t really care about this. You have no principle about this.”

Today’s viewers know that satire news often has more integrity than “real” TV news.

So as we attempt to stay informed about the current military crisis our best bet is to stay tuned to satire news. Here are just two highlights of recent fake news coverage of the ISIS conflict that outdoes the mainstream TV news:

Stephen Colbert reminds us that Bill O’Reilly is a pundit, not a military strategist

While the U.S. began airstrikes against ISIS, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly proposed his own solution to fight terrorists: a volunteer mercenary army with troops from all over the world, trained under U.S. authority, and funded by a coalition. O’Reilly presented this plan on his own show on September 22, but he also had the chance to pitch it the next day on CBS “This Morning.”

“We would select them, special forces would train them — 25,000-man force to be deployed to fight on the ground against worldwide terrorism. Not just ISIS,” O’Reilly said Tuesday. ”

"What’s killing the west now in this fight on terror, and Putin as well, is the politics of it. Can’t get anything done quickly, can’t mobilize fast. So, it’s going to happen. This anti-terror army is going to happen,” O’Reilly said confidently.

Even though commentators on O’Reilly’s own channel called his suggestion preposterous and “a terrible idea,” there was no such critique on CBS. And O’Reilly has gone on to re-present the notion on his own show, convinced that it is the only way forward.

But thankfully Stephen Colbert stepped in to remind news viewers that O’Reilly has zero credibility as a military strategist. He began by sarcastically agreeing with O’Reilly’s plan to put boots on the ground since he isn’t buying the “flimsy excuse that no one thinks it is a good idea.” He then ironically went after the idea that a paid military force would be better suited to the fight than our own armed forces: ”You know these mercenaries will be good guys, because only the best people kill whoever you want for cash,” Colbert said. “Unlike those suckers who do it for the love of their country.”

He finished the piece by pointing out the hypocrisy of the war-mongering rhetoric that imagines conflicts where we just win with no losses of any kind: “So listen up Bill, because as long as we are pretending there is a way to fight a war that doesn’t include sacrifice and that the American people and politicians don’t have to feel any responsibility for, we’ve got to think bigger. Like maybe my invisible bomb that only blows up bad guys.” Colbert’s point: there is no simple solution. And we are wasting our time watching coverage that suggests otherwise. He shows us that the TV news media repeatedly presents information on ISIS to the public that makes no sense.

Stewart, Colbert save the day: Bill O’Reilly and Fox News’ ISIS insanity makes them more essential than ever - Salon.com
 

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Oh, so this is a thread to attack a news source you don't like, OK.

Here I thought it was a thread on the topic of placing merit, or lack thereof, in Armies for hire.

That's a shame, it would have been a good topic.

Tell me again why you think you're superior?
 

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Stewart, Colbert save the day: Bill O’Reilly and Fox News’ ISIS insanity makes them more essential than ever

As the nation continues airstrikes on ISIS in Syria and Iraq, the U.S. public is bracing for yet another military conflict in the Middle East. And in order to make sense of this new crisis viewers are finding that “fake news” often offers better analysis than the so-called “real news.” While Fox News’s Eric Bolling called the first female UAE pilot that bombed the Islamic State “boobs on the ground” and coverage on all major news channels mistakenly described ISIS as an imminent threat to the United States, fake news offered the U.S. public a refreshing dose of reality.

Of course, the idea that the fake news is doing it better than the real news should come as no surprise. In recent years we have learned that viewers more and more often perceive “fake” news as “real” news. Viewers trust Jon Stewart more than Brian Williams. And Fox News viewers consistently rank near the bottom of polls on informed viewers, while viewers of shows like “The Colbert Report” know more about contemporary political issues than those consuming mainstream news media.

So why is the “fake” news so good? First of all, in an era when most cable news is overtaken by hype, punditry, and sensationalism, satire news offers viewers a much-needed chance to gain some critical perspective. When the mainstream media droned on that Obama needed to be more aggressive, Stephen Colbert responded by wishing we could have Frank Underwood as president. The gimmick immediately revealed the ridiculous nature of most TV news coverage that uses up airtime bashing the president and avoiding the real issues. Hence satire news often reminds us that the actual topics covered by mainstream news are not helping to inform us.

Secondly, satire news exposes the hypocrisy of political rhetoric on TV news. For example, on the very same news day that Eric Bolling made the outrageous “boobs on the ground” statement, a major portion or TV news time was spent deconstructing Obama’s “latte” salute with Bolling himself calling the salute with coffee in hand disrespectful to the troops.

Stewart pointed out the hypocrisy of Bolling’s attacks on Obama by reminding viewers that Bolling had shown no respect for the female UAE pilot. His point is that, if we should respect troops, then we should respect ALL troops. Stewart called out Bolling saying, “You don’t really care. You don’t really care about this. You have no principle about this.”

Today’s viewers know that satire news often has more integrity than “real” TV news.

So as we attempt to stay informed about the current military crisis our best bet is to stay tuned to satire news. Here are just two highlights of recent fake news coverage of the ISIS conflict that outdoes the mainstream TV news:

Stephen Colbert reminds us that Bill O’Reilly is a pundit, not a military strategist

While the U.S. began airstrikes against ISIS, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly proposed his own solution to fight terrorists: a volunteer mercenary army with troops from all over the world, trained under U.S. authority, and funded by a coalition. O’Reilly presented this plan on his own show on September 22, but he also had the chance to pitch it the next day on CBS “This Morning.”

“We would select them, special forces would train them — 25,000-man force to be deployed to fight on the ground against worldwide terrorism. Not just ISIS,” O’Reilly said Tuesday. ”

"What’s killing the west now in this fight on terror, and Putin as well, is the politics of it. Can’t get anything done quickly, can’t mobilize fast. So, it’s going to happen. This anti-terror army is going to happen,” O’Reilly said confidently.

Even though commentators on O’Reilly’s own channel called his suggestion preposterous and “a terrible idea,” there was no such critique on CBS. And O’Reilly has gone on to re-present the notion on his own show, convinced that it is the only way forward.

But thankfully Stephen Colbert stepped in to remind news viewers that O’Reilly has zero credibility as a military strategist. He began by sarcastically agreeing with O’Reilly’s plan to put boots on the ground since he isn’t buying the “flimsy excuse that no one thinks it is a good idea.” He then ironically went after the idea that a paid military force would be better suited to the fight than our own armed forces: ”You know these mercenaries will be good guys, because only the best people kill whoever you want for cash,” Colbert said. “Unlike those suckers who do it for the love of their country.”

He finished the piece by pointing out the hypocrisy of the war-mongering rhetoric that imagines conflicts where we just win with no losses of any kind: “So listen up Bill, because as long as we are pretending there is a way to fight a war that doesn’t include sacrifice and that the American people and politicians don’t have to feel any responsibility for, we’ve got to think bigger. Like maybe my invisible bomb that only blows up bad guys.” Colbert’s point: there is no simple solution. And we are wasting our time watching coverage that suggests otherwise. He shows us that the TV news media repeatedly presents information on ISIS to the public that makes no sense.

Stewart, Colbert save the day: Bill O’Reilly and Fox News’ ISIS insanity makes them more essential than ever - Salon.com

Yep.

O'Reilly is way off-base. It is a dumb idea.

The only thing that could possibly be more stupid would be to do nothing......or to try and suppress ISIS by airpower alone while giving training and arms to another Syrian Muslim rebel group and to the Iraqi military, most of which will end up in ISIS hands, while basically ignoring the Kurds, who are the only armed group to score significant success against ISIS..

But who in the world would be stupid enough to do that???

http://allenbwest.com/2014/10/isis-one-mile-baghdad-may-obama-cursed-nightmares-americans-lost-iraq/
 

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Are you really hoping that this time will be different? C'mon Colpy, Flossy isn't here for discussion anymore than you're here to get your hairdo did.
 

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Are you really hoping that this time will be different? C'mon Colpy, Flossy isn't here for discussion anymore than you're here to get your hairdo did.

Heck Bear, I don't do it for Mentalfloss or any of the other hopeless "progressives". I do it to try and provide an alternative viewpoint for the consideration of those with an actual functioning intellect.
 

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Heck Bear, I don't do it for Mentalfloss or any of the other hopeless "progressives". I do it to try and provide an alternative viewpoint for the consideration of those with an actual functioning intellect.
I get that, but the topic sn't what the headline he used would indicate.

He's just attack Faux News, yet again.

He likes to exaggerate and vilify things he disagrees with. He was telling me all about it in another thread. It's one of his failings.

I would trust both John Stewart and Stephan Colbert ahead of the CBC or Toronto Star.
I don't place any stock in infotainment, of any stripe. And although the CBC and the Star have similar comedic value to Colbert and Stewart. They're just not as sincere or honest about it.
 

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Let's just pretend this is a discussion about a flawed idea, rather than an attack on Fox news.
 

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Let's just pretend this is a discussion about a flawed idea, rather than an attack on Fox news.

LOL we'd have to pretend.....

BTW Look at the "Fed Up With Islam" thread.....I kinda eviscerated Mr. Aslan there.

As I said, compared to Obama, O'Reilly is a military genius.
 

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the email 'scriptions were drying up now he's posting anything from his bookmarks folder now. :lol:
 

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Can Bill O'reilly be the one to lead the charge? There has to be some use for this man.
 

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the email 'scriptions were drying up now he's posting anything from his bookmarks folder now. :lol: