Americans’ support for Keystone falling, poll finds


mentalfloss
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Americans’ support for Keystone falling, poll finds

Support for the controversial Keystone XL pipeline has fallen sharply in the U.S. though it continues to have majority approval, as the Obama administration weighs whether to allow the project to proceed, a new poll says.

The survey of 1,000 Americans by Nanos Research found that 79 per cent of respondents said they had heard of TransCanada Corp.’s proposed 830,000-barrel-per-day pipeline, which would carry diluted bitumen from Alberta’s oil sands to the massive refining hub on the U.S. Gulf Coast. That’s up slightly from last April when Nanos conducted a similar survey.

But support for the project has eroded over the past year. Of those who said they were aware of the proposed pipeline from Canada, 63 per cent said they supported its construction and 57 per cent said they had a positive view of it – down from 74-per-cent support and a 70-per-cent positive view in 2013.

The length of the approval process – which has been bitterly criticized by U.S. Republicans as well as the Conservative government – may be sending a warning signal to the American public about the project’s risks, said Nik Nanos, chairman of Nanos Research and a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.

“Approval being delayed is basically a signal to average Americans that maybe there is something wrong with this project – the project that can’t be approved,” Mr. Nanos said. “The longer the review period for the Keystone XL, the more likely it is to be politically at risk.”

TransCanada filed for a presidential permit for the project nearly six years ago, and now calls it the longest and most intensive cross-border pipeline review in U.S. history. The company suffered a setback three years ago when the state of Nebraska demanded it redraw the pipeline’s route to avoid the ecologically sensitive Sandhills region. As a result, TransCanada had to reapply for a permit for the rerouted line.

President Barack Obama has faced intense pressure from environmentalists and the liberal wing of his party to reject the pipeline, though many more conservative Democrats support it. In January, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird expressed Ottawa’s frustration with the lengthy process, calling on the administration to quickly make a decision.

Mr. Nanos said the Harper government didn’t help its case by criticizing the process, though Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver has frequently delivered speeches in the United States that extolled the benefits of the pipeline – and Canadian energy exports generally – to the U.S. public.

At the same time, the lengthy review process gave critics of the pipeline time to get their message out. Billionaire activist Tom Steyer funded a $1-million advertising campaign – including a spot on MSNBC on the night of the President’s State of the Union address – in which he attacked the environmental risks from pipeline.

A State Department review released in late January concluded the Keystone XL project would not increase greenhouse gas emissions from the oil sands because the Alberta crude would find its way to market with or without the pipeline – a conclusion that has been roundly attacked by critics.

Americans’ support for Keystone falling, poll finds - The Globe and Mail
 
Colpy
Conservative
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That's fine.....we'll take the oil here down east, and to the west coast.

Obama is an idiot.
 
Locutus
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63 percent eh. Almost twice barry's approval rating.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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I have no clue was this is even an issue any longer.

Enbridge line 9 and Energy East are already approved and Northern Gateway is a few steps away... The White House waited too long.. KXL doesn't matter any more
 
Locutus
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false-pride
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Pride in being associated with a bogus movement perpetuated by fraudsters?
 
Locutus
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false pride in the inability to say 'we thought about it, we were wrong ( or on second thought, reconsideration ) and yes, by all means, go ahead, it's good for our country'.

that kinda 'pride.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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It will be America's loss. In business you snooze ya looze.
 
petros
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Sooner or later they will need to build their own from the Mac valley AK and MT/ND
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

false pride in the inability to say 'we thought about it, we were wrong ( or on second thought, reconsideration ) and yes, by all means, go ahead, it's good for our country'.

that kinda 'pride.

Fair enough.

I equate that more with stubbornness that I do pride
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

It will be America's loss. In business you snooze ya looze.

Yes it will be.

The liberal Dems in the US do not care one bit about jobs when they come in conflict with their dogma.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Fair enough.

I equate that more with stubbornness that I do pride

Please do not underestimate their idiocy.
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Fair enough.

I equate that more with stubbornness that I do pride


Indeed. Politicos and people of all stripes mask pride under the cloak of 'strength, decisiveness, headstrong, stubborn' and such. It's still all about losing face.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

It will be America's loss. In business you snooze ya looze.

This is what I don't get though.. The project is a no-brainer to begin with. They have existing lines, a gaggle of refineries on the Gulf Coast and customers lined-up for the product.

It makes zero sense that it would be held up for any reason
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

This is what I don't get though.. The project is a no-brainer to begin with. They have existing lines, a gaggle of refineries on the Gulf Coast and customers lined-up for the product.

It makes zero sense that it would be held up for any reason

Yes... exactly. It is a no brainer. But look at who is in charge.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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I can't imagine how you and many other Americans deal with this level of stupidity
 
mentalfloss
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Wow it got hot n bothered in here pretty fast
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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These are simply observations here MF... Everyone understands that the OP was a troll piece to begin with, so it's fair to say that the OP is the only element that reeks of being 'hot and bothered'
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Wow it got hot n bothered in here pretty fast

nope.

Calm and cool bub. No asterisks, bolding, caps and such. Just truth.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

These are simply observations here MF... Everyone understands that the OP was a troll piece to begin with, so it's fair to say that the OP is the only element that reeks of being 'hot and bothered'

Nope.

Just keeping yous informed on the latest.

I also posted the positive environmental review.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Nope.

Just keeping yous informed on the latest.

I also posted the positive environmental review.

KXL doesn't matter any more, you need to understand that.

Sure, TCPL would love for it to go through (from a corporate standpoint), but from an industry and national perspective, the three proposed lines (2 approved) will have specific benefits for Canada and the oilpatch in Canada as well.

At best, KXL will offer another outlet, but the loss for the Gulf refineries is that they now have to compete for the oil as opposed to being the only customer.... Their bottom-line will be reduced measurably
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

KXL doesn't matter any more, you need to understand that.

Sure, TCPL would love for it to go through (from a corporate standpoint), but from an industry and national perspective, the three proposed lines (2 approved) will have specific benefits for Canada and the oilpatch in Canada as well.

At best, KXL will offer another outlet, but the loss for the Gulf refineries is that they now have to compete for the oil as opposed to being the only customer.... Their bottom-line will be reduced measurably

You own stock or something?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

This is what I don't get though.. The project is a no-brainer to begin with. They have existing lines, a gaggle of refineries on the Gulf Coast and customers lined-up for the product.

It makes zero sense that it would be held up for any reason

Unless they want more US oil content than initially contracted so they don't look like alleged planet killers in their own right.

Did you known that only 3 US coal powerplants is all it take to out CO2 the entire oil sands project?
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

You own stock or something?


Not in TCPL, but they have floated some really great bonds in the past, I highly recommend that you take a look if you play that game
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Not in TCPL, but they have floated some really great bonds in the past, I highly recommend that you take a look if you play that game

It's in my portfolio. I just don't get as emotional about it as some.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Wow it got hot n bothered in here pretty fast

Trolling are you?
 
petros
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You can't make yogurt without pro-biotics.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

It's in my portfolio. I just don't get as emotional about it as some.


Like I mentioned before, mine are merely observations.

In terms of KXL, I have expressed on many occasions that Canada is better-off expanding their customer base. The denial of KXL is forcing that scenario.

That said, there is no emotion on this other than relief (I suppose) that the best decision was made for the sector
 
petros
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It's in everyone's portfolio. It's one of those things that everybody profits in.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Trolling are you?

I'm too nice to be a troll.
 
BaalsTears
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If I were a Canadian I would favor the development of an indigenous refining capacity so that I could cut the Americans out of the process entirely. That would create Canadian jobs. Then ship the refined product to Asia, Latin America, etc.
 
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