Barack Obama Failed

B00Mer
Libertarian
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Barack Obama Failed

Hurray!! Another website bitching about Obama!!

No, not at all... but may stray a little. It should be called; "I voted for Obama and want my vote back."

This website is about the "Affordable Health Care" plan.. an Health Insurance policy that is mandatory just like Auto Insurance, and rather than being "Affordable" it is costing the economy jobs and has cost families to loose their health coverage..

Just think about this scenario for a minute..

1. Obama bailed out big business with tax payer money..

2. Obama gives out massive taxpayer loans to alternative energy companies that go bankrupt, such as Solyndra.

3. Blocking Keystone Pipeline, makes no sense. I would rather buy oil from Canada, a friend of the USA and close ally, than buy oil from Saudi Arabia and allow them to fund more terrorist attacks against the USA.. Not to mention, shipping by rail is far more dangerous.

- Canada should block the oil tankers that ship crude oil from Alaska down to the western coast of the USA via the Strait of Juan de Fuca (Canadian waters), stating enviormental concerns over an oil spill. Watch your gas prices double.

3. Obama catered to big Insurance companies and screwed the people.. Insurance rates are rising, not being lowered.

48 Million uninsured, after 10 years of Obamacare there will still be 30 million uninsured and the health insurance rates will go up... that's not affordable health care... $364/mo is what I personally pay... you get sick just worrying about paying the bill each month.

Why not have a truly "Affordable" health care plan, provided by the Government.. just basic, basic, basic health Insurance to cover doctor and hospital visits and operations.. $100/mo for every citizen.. you still have a co-pay system to stop abuse $20 for a doctor, $50 for Urgent Care, $100 for Hospitals..

If you want to keep you current Blue Cross or United Health Care plan, or whatever else.. you can or buy the government plan.. this way you wrap Medicare and Medicaid into this new government plan.. if you don't make above the national poverty line as far as income, you get you're health coverage free..

If you want a Private room, Ambulance Service, Prescription Drugs, Prenatal care, Dental and so on you still need to buy that from Private Insurance Companies..I don't know about you, but this is what I call AFFORDABLE!!

Obama has failed the American people.. yeah I know there are those who support the President, have their blinders on.. Obama can do no wrong, personally I think those individuals are with welfare bums, leaches in society.. thinking Obama is going to give them a free hand out.

This new minimum wage law, $10,00 an hour.. what ever happen to an America that believed in bettering itself, getting an education so you can get that better paying job.. America is being dumbed down..

Obama is a brilliant politician, but a lousy leader...

He has failed the American public on so many levels.. from Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, NSA, Syria, and Obamacare. Now he is asking the public trust his administration to write a new Immigration Law.

Yeah, pretends to be a friend to the Hispanic Community.. LOL Under Obama there has been more illegals deported from the USA, more than any other president.




Obama thinks if you say a lie enough times, it eventually becomes true (like a kid or psychopath)... people will start believing your version of the story. If that fails then just play it down...

- the four who died in Benghazi, their deaths don't matter.. if it was your brother, father or son over their when the Obama administration said that, would you agree?

http://www.BarackObamaFailed.com

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Canada needs to have a co-pay system to stop abuse.. it might save the Canadian "FREE" Health Care system. Fukking waiting on a person in the emergency who has a cold..
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Barack Obama Failed

Hurray!! Another website bitching about Obama!!

Maybe it won't be the eleventy-bazillionth and one rehash of the real, perceived, and fantasised failures of Obama through the eyes of the right wing.

Quote:

No, not at all... but may stray a little. It should be called; "I voted for Obama and want my vote back."

This website is about the "Affordable Health Care" plan.. an Health Insurance policy that is mandatory just like Auto Insurance, and rather than being "Affordable" it is costing the economy jobs and has cost families to loose their health coverage..

Just think about this scenario for a minute..

1. Obama bailed out big business with tax payer money..

2. Obama gives out massive taxpayer loans to alternative energy companies that go bankrupt, such as Solyndra.

3. Blocking Keystone Pipeline, makes no sense. I would rather buy oil from Canada, a friend of the USA and close ally, than buy oil from Saudi Arabia and allow them to fund more terrorist attacks against the USA.. Not to mention, shipping by rail is far more dangerous.

- Canada should block the oil tankers that ship crude oil from Alaska down to the western coast of the USA via the Strait of Juan de Fuca (Canadian waters), stating enviormental concerns over an oil spill. Watch your gas prices double.

3. Obama catered to big Insurance companies and screwed the people.. Insurance rates are rising, not being lowered.

48 Million uninsured, after 10 years of Obamacare there will still be 30 million uninsured and the health insurance rates will go up... that's not affordable health care... $364/mo is what I personally pay... you get sick just worrying about paying the bill each month.

Why not have a truly "Affordable" health care plan, provided by the Government.. just basic, basic, basic health Insurance to cover doctor and hospital visits and operations.. $100/mo for every citizen.. you still have a co-pay system to stop abuse $20 for a doctor, $50 for Urgent Care, $100 for Hospitals..

If you want to keep you current Blue Cross or United Health Care plan, or whatever else.. you can or buy the government plan.. this way you wrap Medicare and Medicaid into this new government plan.. if you don't make above the national poverty line as far as income, you get you're health coverage free..

If you want a Private room, Ambulance Service, Prescription Drugs, Prenatal care, Dental and so on you still need to buy that from Private Insurance Companies..I don't know about you, but this is what I call AFFORDABLE!!

Obama has failed the American people.. yeah I know there are those who support the President, have their blinders on.. Obama can do no wrong, personally I think those individuals are with welfare bums, leaches in society.. thinking Obama is going to give them a free hand out.

This new minimum wage law, $10,00 an hour.. what ever happen to an America that believed in bettering itself, getting an education so you can get that better paying job.. America is being dumbed down..

Obama is a brilliant politician, but a lousy leader...

He has failed the American public on so many levels.. from Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, NSA, Syria, and Obamacare. Now he is asking the public trust his administration to write a new Immigration Law.

Yeah, pretends to be a friend to the Hispanic Community.. LOL Under Obama there has been more illegals deported from the USA, more than any other president.




Obama thinks if you say a lie enough times, it eventually becomes true (like a kid or psychopath)... people will start believing your version of the story. If that fails then just play it down...

- the four who died in Benghazi, their deaths don't matter.. if it was your brother, father or son over their when the Obama administration said that, would you agree?

http://www.BarackObamaFailed.com

----------------------------------------

Or maybe it will be.

Quote:

Canada needs to have a co-pay system to stop abuse.. it might save the Canadian "FREE" Health Care system. Fukking waiting on a person in the emergency who has a cold..

Why don't you just blame Obama, like you do for everything else?
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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- Canada should block the oil tankers that ship crude oil from Alaska down to the western coast of the USA via the Strait of Juan de Fuca (Canadian waters), stating enviormental concerns over an oil spill. Watch your gas prices double.


Interesting thought... Sure would stir the pot on a bunch of issues

Canada needs to have a co-pay system to stop abuse.. it might save the Canadian "FREE" Health Care system. Fukking waiting on a person in the emergency who has a cold..


No shyte.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Canada needs to have a co-pay system to stop abuse.. it might save the Canadian "FREE" Health Care system. Fukking waiting on a person in the emergency who has a cold..

If you're waiting for somebody with a cold it means you're there for something with even less priority.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

- Canada should block the oil tankers that ship crude oil from Alaska down to the western coast of the USA via the Strait of Juan de Fuca (Canadian waters), stating enviormental concerns over an oil spill. Watch your gas prices double.


Interesting thought... Sure would stir the pot on a bunch of issues

That would be interesting.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

That would be interesting.


Too bad that this entire (potential) scenario is even being spoken about.

What a mess
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Too bad that this entire (potential) scenario is even being spoken about.

What a mess

I would like to see it unfold... it is all about the children you know.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

That would be interesting.

Strait of Juan de Fuca is split.
 
EagleSmack
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Strait of Juan de Fuca is split.

Ahh well... back to the drawing board.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Ahh well... back to the drawing board.


Maybe it's time to get the water cops out there and hand out a bunch of tickets for moving violations.

I do believe that Sheriff JW Pepper would be an excellent choice

 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Ahh well... back to the drawing board.

Greenpeacers in BC used to have fits that the Trident base is in Everett and they passed through the strait.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Why not have a truly "Affordable" health care plan, provided by the Government..

Well, that is exactly what Obama wanted, but opponents demanded that it be taken out if he wanted the bill to pass.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Well, that is exactly what Obama wanted, but opponents demanded that it be taken out if he wanted the bill to pass.

By that you mean his own party.
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

By that you mean his own party.

No from the rightwingers that would rather buy bullets than look after their own people.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

No from the rightwingers that would rather buy bullets than look after their own people.

That's right... I forgot they were still under the illusion that Obamacare is a GOP plan. Even though not one Republican voted for it.

Has Homeland Security bought every round yet? I wonder how the Ohio Natl. Guard did in their war games against OPFOR 2nd Amendment Supporters.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

That's right... I forgot they were still under the illusion that Obamacare is a GOP plan. Even though not one Republican voted for it.

Has Homeland Security bought every round yet? I wonder how the Ohio Natl. Guard did in their war games against OPFOR 2nd Amendment Supporters.

It would be naive to think that the GOP had no impact on how the bill ultimately came into being. Their constant attempts to block it severely limited the ability of Obama to implement the bill as he originally planned and gave more influence to the fringes on the Democrat side.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

It would be naive to think that the GOP had no impact on how the bill ultimately came into being. Their constant attempts to block it severely limited the ability of Obama to implement the bill as he originally planned and gave more influence to the fringes on the Democrat side.

Sigh...

When Obamacare was passed it was numerically IMPOSSIBLE for the GOP to stop it... IMPOSSIBLE. The Democrat Party was in full control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

There was nothing that the GOP could do to block it... Nothing.

The in-fighting was between the Democrats with knowing that passing this Obamacare Bill could be the end to them. The Democrats were the authors and passers of this bill ONLY.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Sigh...

When Obamacare was passed it was numerically IMPOSSIBLE for the GOP to stop it... IMPOSSIBLE. The Democrat Party was in full control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

There was nothing that the GOP could do to block it... Nothing.

The in-fighting was between the Democrats with knowing that passing this Obamacare Bill could be the end to them. The Democrats were the authors and passers of this bill ONLY.


Doesn't matter, it's still the Republican's fault.... And Harper, he's to blame as well
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Doesn't matter, it's still the Republican's fault.... And Harper, he's to blame as well

That is all the Democrat Party can hope for... blind obedience and LOTS of people willing to drink the Kool-Aid.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Sigh...

When Obamacare was passed it was numerically IMPOSSIBLE for the GOP to stop it... IMPOSSIBLE. The Democrat Party was in full control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

There was nothing that the GOP could do to block it... Nothing.

The in-fighting was between the Democrats with knowing that passing this Obamacare Bill could be the end to them. The Democrats were the authors and passers of this bill ONLY.

That isn't the whole story.

With the death of Ted Kennedy, his seat came up for election and was won by a republican, which made it possible for the republicans to filibuster anything and everything that came through the senate. The senate was able to pass one version of the bill before this.

After that, the house and the senate normally have a conference to sort out disagreements between their two bills and then both pass another bill that they both agree with. This could not happen because the republicans openly said they would filibuster anything that came back to the senate. So their only option was to pass the senate bill or nothing at all.
 
The Old Medic
Conservative
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When over 50% of the citizens of a country believe that their "leader" has failed, that leader is in BIG trouble.

It is NOT just the so called "Right Wing". Even fellow Democrats, liberals and middle of the road folks believe that this President has actually damaged the United States of America, and that he has NOT been good for the country.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

That isn't the whole story.

With the death of Ted Kennedy, his seat came up for election and was won by a republican, which made it possible for the republicans to filibuster anything and everything that came through the senate. The senate was able to pass one version of the bill before this.

After that, the house and the senate normally have a conference to sort out disagreements between their two bills and then both pass another bill that they both agree with. This could not happen because the republicans openly said they would filibuster anything that came back to the senate. So their only option was to pass the senate bill or nothing at all.

That is absolutely untrue. The Senate never passed any Health Care bill, until after the Democrats took total and complete control of BOTH Houses of the Congress.

Yes, Scott Brown took the election, but his taking the seat in the Senate had absolutely NO effect on the ability of the Republicans to stop anything from being enacted. The Democrats controlled 60+ Senate seats, and they could, and did, pass anything that they chose to pass. They could shut off any Filibuster all by themselves.

Just remember the famous words of the then Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill, to learn what's in it".
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

When over 50% of the citizens of a country believe that their "leader" has failed, that leader is in BIG trouble.

It is NOT just the so called "Right Wing". Even fellow Democrats, liberals and middle of the road folks believe that this President has actually damaged the United States of America, and that he has NOT been good for the country.

Well, since they have been recording this sort of thing, pretty much every president has seen disapproval ratings climb above 50% and approval fall far below 50%. I'm sure he would rather these numbers were better for him right now, but it certainly isn't unprecedented.

Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

That is absolutely untrue. The Senate never passed any Health Care bill, until after the Democrats took total and complete control of BOTH Houses of the Congress.

Yes, Scott Brown took the election, but his taking the seat in the Senate had absolutely NO effect on the ability of the Republicans to stop anything from being enacted. The Democrats controlled 60+ Senate seats, and they could, and did, pass anything that they chose to pass. They could shut off any Filibuster all by themselves.

Just remember the famous words of the then Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill, to learn what's in it".

This is just factually wrong. When Scott Brown was elected, he brought the number of republican votes up to 41, allowing them to filibuster. That was a central part of his election campaign. That meant that they could not have a conference and come up with a new bill that addressed things that the house and the executive would have liked to change. They could only make minor changes that were strictly budgetary.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

That isn't the whole story.

With the death of Ted Kennedy, his seat came up for election and was won by a republican, which made it possible for the republicans to filibuster anything and everything that came through the senate. The senate was able to pass one version of the bill before this.

Nay Nay Nay...

Obamacare was passed on December 24, 2009. The Democrats had all the time in the world to pass the bill. The infighting, Democrat greed, pork, and fear of voter reprisals was what delayed the passing. The summer and fall of 2009 was a horror show between the Democrats and the GOP just sat back and smirked.

The GOP could not stop the Democrats from passing anything.



Quote:

After that, the house and the senate normally have a conference to sort out disagreements between their two bills and then both pass another bill that they both agree with. This could not happen because the republicans openly said they would filibuster anything that came back to the senate. So their only option was to pass the senate bill or nothing at all.

So if that was their option then it was very irresponsible to pass the disaster which is Obamacare.

Nevertheless... Obamacare was a Democrat bill and the only ones who voted for it were Democrats.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Nay Nay Nay...

Obamacare was passed on December 24, 2009. The Democrats had all the time in the world to pass the bill. The infighting, Democrat greed, pork, and fear of voter reprisals was what delayed the passing. The summer and fall of 2009 was a horror show between the Democrats and the GOP just sat back and smirked.

The GOP could not stop the Democrats from passing anything.


So if that was their option then it was very irresponsible to pass the disaster which is Obamacare.

Nevertheless... Obamacare was a Democrat bill and the only ones who voted for it were Democrats.

Lol, you seem to be denying basic math. By gaining the 41st vote the GOP was able to filibuster any new bills from being passed at that point. By refusing to come to the table at all, it gave power to the fringes of the democratic party.

These are simple facts.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post


This is just factually wrong. When Scott Brown was elected, he brought the number of republican votes up to 41, allowing them to filibuster. That was a central part of his election campaign. That meant that they could not have a conference and come up with a new bill that addressed things that the house and the executive would have liked to change. They could only make minor changes that were strictly budgetary.

The GOP was able to filibuster before Scott Brown took his seat. However the Democrats had the votes to end the filibuster as Sen. Paul Kirk (D-MA) (Ted Kennedy's interim replacement) was seated and voted YES in December 2009.

You can't get out of this. The only reason you are blaming the GOP is because you know what a disaster this 100% Democrat Law is.

And it's all the Democrats fault.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Lol, you seem to be denying basic math. By gaining the 41st vote the GOP was able to filibuster any new bills from being passed at that point. By refusing to come to the table at all, it gave power to the fringes of the democratic party.

These are simple facts.

No I am not. By you simply blaming the GOP because Scott Brown was elected is a laugh.

The Senate GOP DID filibuster the ACA Bill when it came to the floor... the GOP did not have the votes to sustain the filibuster.

The Democrats had complete and total control of Congress. The GOP could not do a thing to stop them. The Democrat fighting was going on all year over this bill. The Democrats were afraid of the repercussions they would face in the 2010 midterm elections and they were trying to save their skins.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

The GOP was able to filibuster before Scott Brown took his seat. However the Democrats had the votes to end the filibuster as Sen. Paul Kirk (D-MA) (Ted Kennedy's interim replacement) was seated and voted YES in December 2009.

You can't get out of this. The only reason you are blaming the GOP is because you know what a disaster this 100% Democrat Law is.

And it's all the Democrats fault.



No I am not. By you simply blaming the GOP because Scott Brown was elected is a laugh.

The Senate GOP DID filibuster the ACA Bill when it came to the floor... the GOP did not have the votes to sustain the filibuster.

The Democrats had complete and total control of Congress. The GOP could not do a thing to stop them. The Democrat fighting was going on all year over this bill. The Democrats were afraid of the repercussions they would face in the 2010 midterm elections and they were trying to save their skins.

Lol, there is a big difference between filibustering when you have 40 votes and when you have 41 votes. You are a smart guy, you know this. They prevented the house and the executive from making changes to the bill that they had wanted to make.

You also are smart enough to understand that refusal of the GOP to come to the table gave the fringes of the Democratic party lots of power.

So you honestly still think the GOP had no influence over how the bill turned out?
 
BaalsTears
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The filibuster rule doesn't apply to the Budget Reconciliation Act. Democratic Majority Leader Senator Harry Reid illegitimately used the Budget Reconciliation process as the vehicle to pass the Affordable Care Act after the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts. In other words the Democrats used a trick to get their way.

Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Maybe it won't be the eleventy-bazillionth and one rehash of the real, perceived, and fantasised failures of Obama through the eyes of the right wing.


Or maybe it will be.


Why don't you just blame Obama, like you do for everything else?

Criticism of Obama is flat out racism isn't? What other possible excuse could there be?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Lol, there is a big difference between filibustering when you have 40 votes and when you have 41 votes. You are a smart guy, you know this. They prevented the house and the executive from making changes to the bill that they had wanted to make.

You also are smart enough to understand that refusal of the GOP to come to the table gave the fringes of the Democratic party lots of power.

The threat of a future filibuster is no excuse whatsoever for the Democrats Obamacare bill!

They could have passed whatever they wanted. ANYTHING at all! There was not a thing the GOP could do.

The GOP didn't go to the table because they were against the bill altogether. Besides, Obama and the Democrats made it quite clear... the GOP is out and the Democrats are in.

I am sure the Democrats would have loved to share the blame of this abomination known as Obamacare with the GOP. Alas, it is all theirs. This is the Democrat burden.

Quote:

So you honestly still think the GOP had no influence over how the bill turned out?

Only in the fact that many Democrats were worried about losing their seats in Congress. The Democrats were the ones that kept scaling and changing the bill. They were scared as hell of facing the voters in 2010. So again, the Democrats were to blame 100%.
 
BornRuff
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

The filibuster rule doesn't apply to the Budget Reconciliation Act. Democratic Majority Leader Senator Harry Reid illegitimately used the Budget Reconciliation process as the vehicle to pass the Affordable Care Act after the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts. In other words the Democrats used a trick to get their way.


They amended the bill using reconciliation, but reconciliation can be used to amend strictly budgetary issues. The Affordable Care Act involves non budgetary regulations, which could not be altered through that process.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

The threat of a future filibuster is no excuse whatsoever for the Democrats Obamacare bill!

They could have passed whatever they wanted. ANYTHING at all! There was not a thing the GOP could do.

The GOP didn't go to the table because they were against the bill altogether. Besides, Obama and the Democrats made it quite clear... the GOP is out and the Democrats are in.

I am sure the Democrats would have loved to share the blame of this abomination known as Obamacare with the GOP. Alas, it is all theirs. This is the Democrat burden.

Only in the fact that many Democrats were worried about losing their seats in Congress. The Democrats were the ones that kept scaling and changing the bill. They were scared as hell of facing the voters in 2010. So again, the Democrats were to blame 100%.

The threat wasn't a hypothetical future issue when it came time to finalize the bill. The GOP had 41 votes and was not shy about letting people know that they would use the filibuster whenever possible.

As you would say, having a super majority in the past is no help if the current situation you are looking at is a GOP caucus with 41 votes.

Just because you like one side doesn't mean you have to be willfully blind to their influence on things like this.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

They amended the bill using reconciliation, but reconciliation can be used to amend strictly budgetary issues. The Affordable Care Act involves non budgetary regulations, which could not be altered through that process.

In theory you are correct, but in America an alligator can be an elephant if that's what people in power insist that it is. The Budget Reconciliation process was used as the legislative mechanism to get the ACA to Obama's desk for signature.
 

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