US Prison Crisis Hits New High (or Low?)

[karrie]

We're all familiar with the staggering percentages of American citizens currently sitting in prisons around their country. It's a source of international interest, and for some, national embarrassment. But the true impact of the overly zealous prison system has a new manifestation... in the form of a new Sesame Street character, and much needed dialogue for the 1 in 28 children who have a parent in prison.

Sesame Street Debuts New Character | I Am Bored

 

[EagleSmack]

And how many threads are floating around CanCon about Canadians that are killing and raping when they should have been in jail?

You're the best Karrie... but look to your own house. We like them in jail.

 

[petros]

Prisons for profits in the US leaves the door wide open for corruption and kick backs to LEOs to fill them.

 

[EagleSmack]

Prisons for profits in the US leaves the door wide open for corruption and kick backs to LEOs to fill them.

Do you REALLY think we have a problem filling jails?

 

[B00Mer]

Philadelphia Closes 23 Schools, New $400 Million Prison Being Built | General Strike USA

in a state that's bankrupt..
California spending billions to build new prisons - SFGate

I have the solution...
Newt Gingrich: Penal Colony on Moon :lol:

 

[petros]

Do you REALLY think we have a problem filling jails?

With some of the crazy sh*t that is felonies down there, no not at all but there has indeed been some corruption leading to false charges and kick backs in TX ( I believe) with cocaine being planted on individuals.

That just isn't right.

 

[karrie]

And how many threads are floating around CanCon about Canadians that are killing and raping when they should have been in jail?

You're the best Karrie... but look to your own house. We like them in jail.

Fair enough. So why are so many Americans such a dire threat then?

See, I don't believe for one minute that y'all are that nasty and twisted in such large numbers.

(and not I'm extending you the courtesy of not telling you to get off this Canadian forum and mind your own business)

 

[EagleSmack]

Fair enough. So why are so many Americans such a dire threat then?

Dire threat of what exactly?

See, I don't believe for one minute that y'all are that nasty and twisted in such large numbers.

Why thank you!

(and not I'm extending you the courtesy of not telling you to get off this Canadian forum and mind your own business)

Well it it was in US Politics. Also... I did not want it to come across like I didn't think that you as a Canadian shouldn't have an opinion. So sorry about that.

But here you are (saying nicely) that we have too many in prison... they are in prison because they broke the law. That is excluding the ones falsely accused and convicted. But those cases happen in all countries.

I think Canada has too many people walking about when they should have been in prison and many threads in this forum attest to that. I think you and I have a different view on what prison is. It's that Crime and Punishment thing that I mention in threads like these.

 

[Niflmir]

Dire threat of what exactly?



Why thank you!



Well it it was in US Politics. Also... I did not want it to come across like I didn't think that you as a Canadian shouldn't have an opinion. So sorry about that.

But here you are (saying nicely) that we have too many in prison... they are in prison because they broke the law. That is excluding the ones falsely accused and convicted. But those cases happen in all countries.

I think Canada has too many people walking about when they should have been in prison and many threads in this forum attest to that. I think you and I have a different view on what prison is. It's that Crime and Punishment thing that I mention in threads like these.

Actually, your prisons basically exist to launder taxpayer dollars into the pockets of certain corporations. Like jails in most other countries, Canadian jails exist for the purpose of helping society. Which is by definition socialism. The conflict of interest in having privately run prisons creates an ethical dilemma that most moral people are disgusted by.

If money is made by keeping prisoners behind bars, why would these private organisations design prisons to aid recovery of convicts?

With the answer to that question, the prison overcrowding and staggering rate of incarceration compared to the crime rate begin to make sense.

 

[karrie]

Dire threat of what exactly....
I think Canada has too many people walking about when they should have been in prison and many threads in this forum attest to that. I think you and I have a different view on what prison is. It's that Crime and Punishment thing that I mention in threads like these.

You referenced (twice now), there being too many people walking the streets putting others at risk.

Why do so many Americans have to be locked up in order to keep your streets safe?

You can't be contending that your incarceration rates are on par with the rest of the world, it's known fact it's very high. And lower incarceration rates in other countries don't seem to translate into higher crime rates for them.

 

[hunboldt]

Do you REALLY think we have a problem filling jails?

The only USbubbas not doing hard time are the one's too fat to fit through the big house doors..

And how many threads are floating around CanCon about Canadians that are killing and raping when they should have been in jail?

You're the best Karrie... but look to your own house. We like them in jail.

Who is this 'We' you keep referring to, dodothump?

 

[EagleSmack]

Actually, your prisons basically exist to launder taxpayer dollars into the pockets of certain corporations.

Gotcha... good to know.

Like jails in most other countries, Canadian jails exist for the purpose of helping society.

But of course! How could I be so wrong! You guys are sooooo awesome!

With the answer to that question, the prison overcrowding and staggering rate of incarceration compared to the crime rate begin to make sense.

Who is this 'We' you keep referring to, dodothump?

Dodothump... did you really call me dodothump again? What a child you are.

I must really be in your head. I am aren't I? lmao

 

[WLDB]

Ha. Thats kind of funny and sad at the same time. Wonder how long that character will last.

 

[taxslave]

You referenced (twice now), there being too many people walking the streets putting others at risk.

Why do so many Americans have to be locked up in order to keep your streets safe?

You can't be contending that your incarceration rates are on par with the rest of the world, it's known fact it's very high. And lower incarceration rates in other countries don't seem to translate into higher crime rates for them.

Because pot smokers are such a danger to society.( ROFLMAO)
In Canada we let murderers out to reoffend and call it population control.

 

[hunboldt]

Ha. Thats kind of funny and sad at the same time. Wonder how long that character will last.

Big House Bird is next ....

On REPUPLICAN Sesame Street. 'Da Boid' gets 25 years for flipping the bird, impersonating royalty, & insulting the Republican party...

THEN CADGES A Prez.PARDON FROM MO to get out of KP....

ESmack, - be very ashamed of the three strikes rule...

 

[tay]

Prisons should not be 'for profit' as it encourages this type of behaviour all the way down the chain. I'm thinking their are many more corrupt officials who haven't been caught yet.......



Accused of perpetrating a “profound evil,” former Pennsylvania judge Mark Ciavarella Jr. has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for illegally accepting money from a juvenile-prison developer while he spent years incarcerating thousands of young people.


Ciavarella sent juveniles to jail as part of a “kids for cash” scheme involving Robert Mericle, builder of the PA and Western PA Child Care juvenile detention centers. The ex-judge was convicted in February of 12 counts that included racketeering, money laundering, mail fraud and tax evasion.



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Controversies - Judge Sentenced to 28 Years in Prison for “Selling� Kids to Private Prisons - AllGov - News



Update: Many people reading this article have asked what happened to the other people involved in this case. Judge Michael T. Conahan is currently serving a 17½- year sentence at the Federal Correctional Complex, Coleman in Sumter County Florida. Robert J. Powell, co-owner of the two juvenile detention centers, pleaded guilty to paying kickbacks to Ciavarella and Conahan and served 18 months in prison before being released on April 16, 2013. Robert K. Mericle, the wealthy builder and co-owner of two private detention centers, has not yet been sentenced, but in November 2012, he agreed to a cash settlement that would distribute $12.2 million to 1,066 of the juveniles who were incarcerated and 548 of their parents.

 

[EagleSmack]

Big House Bird is next ....

On REPUPLICAN Sesame Street. 'Da Boid' gets 25 years for flipping the bird, impersonating royalty, & insulting the Republican party...

THEN CADGES A Prez.PARDON FROM MO to get out of KP....

ESmack, - be very ashamed of the three strikes rule...

Wow


I'm still in your head huh? Even responding to other people's posts you've got me on your mind. Sweet.

You referenced (twice now), there being too many people walking the streets putting others at risk.

What I am referencing is that Canada lets people out that probably should be in jail. And then some come around and brag on how they have a lesser prison population.

Why do so many Americans have to be locked up in order to keep your streets safe?

They're locked up because they committed a crime!

You can't be contending that your incarceration rates are on par with the rest of the world, it's known fact it's very high.

Of course it is high. There are many people in the US that commit crimes and deserve to be locked up.

And lower incarceration rates in other countries don't seem to translate into higher crime rates for them.

Are you going to compare us to Finland and Belgium (etc)?

 

[hunboldt]

Wow


I'm still in your head huh? Even responding to other people's posts you've got me on your mind. Sweet.



What I am referencing is that Canada lets people out that probably should be in jail. And then some come around and brag on how they have a lesser prison population.


Are you going to compare us to Finland and Belgium (etc)?

Errr, are you by any chance in moult??

 

[karrie]

What I am referencing is that Canada lets people out that probably should be in jail. And then some come around and brag on how they have a lesser prison population.


They're locked up because they committed a crime!


Of course it is high. There are many people in the US that commit crimes and deserve to be locked up.


Are you going to compare us to Finland and Belgium (etc)?

I agree, at any given time in any country, there are people walking the streets who shouldn't be. But it doesn't change the fact that globally speaking, the US has an oddly high incarceration rate. Is it helping?

And yes, I am comparing the US globally.... you're the one trying to compare it to Canada, not me.

 

[EagleSmack]

I agree, at any given time in any country, there are people walking the streets who shouldn't be. But it doesn't change the fact that globally speaking, the US has an oddly high incarceration rate. Is it helping?

So... we should let most out?

It is so easy to look from Canada and be uppity when you don't have near the population or problems the US has.

We have laws... if you want to break them often enough you are going to find yourself in the slammer. If you're going to murder, rob, beat, rape, and in many cases sell drugs you're going to find yourself behind bars.

And yes, I am comparing the US globally.... you're the one trying to compare it to Canada, not me.

I was just saying that it was funny your concern about the US having a high prison population when Canada lets guys out OR doesn't send them at all and they commit heinous crimes.

Just a matter of time until the next thread comes out to prove my point.