Should only taxpayers be allowed to vote?


French Patriot
#1
Should only taxpayers beallowed to vote?

When Socrates and his friendswere talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms,that means, ---- taxpayer. The core ofdemocracy.

There are two types ofcitizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

Once the taxpayer hands overhis wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

This is counter to thetaxpayer’s wishes.

Why do taxpayers allow thissituation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

If taxtakers had done a goodjob with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

Should those who pay the wayof our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

Since the right to do so istied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

Regards
DL
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
+3
#2
Find us an example of a person that does not pay taxes.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

Should only taxpayers beallowed to vote?

When Socrates and his friendswere talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms,that means, ---- taxpayer. The core ofdemocracy.

There are two types ofcitizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

Once the taxpayer hands overhis wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

This is counter to thetaxpayer’s wishes.

Why do taxpayers allow thissituation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

If taxtakers had done a goodjob with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

Should those who pay the wayof our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

Since the right to do so istied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

Regards
DL

Seeing as everyone pays GST the question is moot.
 
French Patriot
#4
Should only taxpayers beallowed to vote?

When Socrates and his friendswere talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms,that means, ---- taxpayer. The core ofdemocracy.

There are two types ofcitizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

Once the taxpayer hands overhis wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

This is counter to thetaxpayer’s wishes.

Why do taxpayers allow thissituation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

If taxtakers had done a goodjob with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

Should those who pay the wayof our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

Since the right to do so istied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

Regards
DL
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

Should only taxpayers beallowed to vote?

When Socrates and his friendswere talking of voters, they were talking of land owners. In today’s terms,that means, ---- taxpayer. The core ofdemocracy.

There are two types ofcitizens. The taxpayer and the taxtaker.

Once the taxpayer hands overhis wealth, he loses control of where it is spent.

This is counter to thetaxpayer’s wishes.

Why do taxpayers allow thissituation and defer their right to spend their wealth to others?

If taxtakers had done a goodjob with that wealth, I do not think any would complain. That is not the case.

Should those who pay the wayof our society be the ones who decide where our wealth is spent?

Since the right to do so istied to our vote, should only taxpayers be allowed to vote on spending issues?

Regards
DL

That's the way it is now!

There's two certainties in life! -
 
French Patriot
#6
Yes. One of those is that the taxpayers vote will be negated by the taxtaker who will vote for whoever offers him more of the public purse that the taxpayer fills.

Enjoy being squeeze by both the top and bottom of our demography if you happen to be in the middle.

Regards
DL
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

Yes. One of those is that the taxpayers vote will be negated by the taxtaker who will vote for whoever offers him more of the public purse that the taxpayer fills.

Enjoy being squeeze by both the top and bottom of our demography if you happen to be in the middle.

Regards
DL

I'm not sure it works that way! -
 
French Patriot
#8
I am.

Regards
DL
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+2
#9
That is not the concept of democracy. If you equate all the taxes paid, those who
are part of the society not land owners pay more real taxes than those who are.
Today of course we have fees not taxes in many cases and those fees are indeed
taxation without the word being used. If you attempted to implement a system like
this in an educated society there would be a revolution.
 
French Patriot
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Find us an example of a person that does not pay taxes.

You must be thinking of VAT's.

Sure the taxtakers pay that. With the money they suck from the public ***.

Move the flap on your bra. It's feeding time.

Regards
DL

Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Seeing as everyone pays GST the question is moot.

See above and be moot as they bite your ***.

No taxation without representation means no representation through a vote without paying tax.

Regards
DL
 
gerryh
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post


No taxation without representation means no representation through a vote without paying tax.

Regards
DL


curious as to why you are paraphrasing an american moto.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

That is not the concept of democracy. If you equate all the taxes paid, those who
are part of the society not land owners pay more real taxes than those who are.
Today of course we have fees not taxes in many cases and those fees are indeed
taxation without the word being used. If you attempted to implement a system like
this in an educated society there would be a revolution.

Murder and mayhem!
 
Kreskin
+1
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Find us an example of a person that does not pay taxes.

Just what I was going to ask.

Another blowhard who thinks he and his money are closer to god.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#14
How come we got two threads the same? Frenchy, did you hiccup when you posted?
Last edited by Cliffy; Feb 10th, 2013 at 10:28 PM..
 
gerryh
+5
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because frenchy isn't the brightest bulb in the house.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#16
So ... uhm ... how does that work for people who rent apartments or lease the land under their residence?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

because frenchy isn't the brightest bulb in the house.

Or maybe because sh*t happens, Ger, I've had a post of mine pop up twice on a couple of occasions, so may be within the realm of possibility with threads. I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.............-

Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

How come we got two threads the same? Frenchy, did you hiccup when you posted?

Maybe he wanted to go bilingual with it and forgot which lingo he started with!
 
Walter
#18
What type of tax are you talking about?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

What type of tax are you talking about?

Does it matter? If they don't get you one way they'll get you another.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

What type of tax are you talking about?

Thumb....
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

What type of tax are you talking about?

Does it matter? If they don't get you one way they'll get you another.
 
Corduroy
#22
The state imposes its will on taxpayers and non-taxpayers. If non-taxpayers were denied a say in government, they'd be justified in not obeying the law.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by CorduroyView Post

The state imposes its will on taxpayers and non-taxpayers. If non-taxpayers were denied a say in government, they'd be justified in not obeying the law.

Where will we find these non taxpayers? Oh, maybe I'll look between Goldilocks and the tooth fairy! -
 
Walter
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Does it matter? If they don't get you one way they'll get you another.

I meant wiich tax is the OP discussing? My 16 year old pays sales tax; should he be allowed to vote?
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Just what I was going to ask.

Another blowhard who thinks he and his money are closer to god.

And has no concept of taxation.

Quote: Originally Posted by French PatriotView Post

You must be thinking of VAT's.

Sure the taxtakers pay that. With the money they suck from the public ***.

Move the flap on your bra. It's feeding time.

Regards
DL



See above and be moot as they bite your ***.

No taxation without representation means no representation through a vote without paying tax.

Regards
DL

Then quickly moves into further ignorance territory with an added dollop of rude on the side.

It's a ridiculous question, the answer is no. Citizenship is and should always be the only requirement for voting.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

I meant wiich tax is the OP discussing? My 16 year old pays sales tax; should he be allowed to vote?

Absolutely...................when he reaches voting age!
 
china
Conservative
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by CorduroyView Post

The state imposes its will on taxpayers and non-taxpayers. If non-taxpayers were denied a say in government, they'd be justified in not obeying the law.

I guess all the guys in the pens , because of tax evasion don't have any say in the government , right... or is it the other way around ... or perhaps the tax payers should impose their will on the state ?
Last edited by china; Feb 11th, 2013 at 09:13 AM..
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+1
#28
Tax pain.... Nothin' we can do about that
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by chinaView Post

I guess all the guys in the pen because of tax evasion don't have any say in the government , right... or is it the other way around ... or perhaps the tax payers should impose their will on the state ?

They get taxed when they go to the canteen!
 
china
Conservative
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

They get taxed when they go to the canteen!

hahahaha
 

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