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Locutus
#1Jan 9th, 2013
Lessons In Government School Indoctrination





This really has to be seen to be believed … so the picture is here for you to see. This is a page out of a workbook for your government school student. What school and what schoolbook I can’t tell you … maybe the lady who sent this to me will step forward and let us know.

This is how our government schools – and the liberals who run them – effectively brainwash (though indoctrinate is a much more polite word) our children into accepting the liberal philosophy as basic truth. This particular worksheet is meant to help your government student “understand the distributive property.” Now I’m not a dreary slouch at math … but this is the first time in my life I’ve ever heard of the distributive property. I strongly suspect that pretty much any student can move through school to a very successful life as a productive adult without ever having heard those words. Really … look at this Bolshoi. “6 groups of (3+5) = 6 groups of 3 + 6 groups of 5” I challenge any government school teacher to call the show today and tell me why this is important. What’s important is that the student be able to figure out what 3+5 equals 8 and that 6x8 = 48.

That, as you have guessed if you’ve looked at the picture, isn’t the real problem here. The problem is HOW this government school document teaches the lesson. The headline at the top of the document reads “Distribute the Wealth.” And there you have the picture of the pretty little girl with the cute little pony tail. She’s holding a bag of money in one hand, and giving away some of that money with the other. Yes! She’s distributing her wealth! But if you study the picture you’ll see there’s an even more subtle message. She’s not handing money away from her wallet or her purse. No! That wouldn’t get the real message across! Why pretty much every little girl has a wallet or a purse. No .. this little sweetheart has a BAG of money! Not every little girl has BAGS of money … so this girl must be really RICH! And since she’s rich her money needs to be redistributed! So she’s being a good little rich girl and she’s smiling as she hands her money away.


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JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Lessons In Government School Indoctrination

This really has to be seen to be believed … so the picture is here for you to see. This is a page out of a workbook for your government school student. What school and what schoolbook I can’t tell you … maybe the lady who sent this to me will step forward and let us know.
This is how our government schools – and the liberals who run them – effectively brainwash (though indoctrinate is a much more polite word) our children into accepting the liberal philosophy as basic truth. This particular worksheet is meant to help your government student “understand the distributive property.” Now I’m not a dreary slouch at math … but this is the first time in my life I’ve ever heard of the distributive property. I strongly suspect that pretty much any student can move through school to a very successful life as a productive adult without ever having heard those words. Really … look at this Bolshoi. “6 groups of (3+5) = 6 groups of 3 + 6 groups of 5” I challenge any government school teacher to call the show today and tell me why this is important. What’s important is that the student be able to figure out what 3+5 equals 8 and that 6x8 = 48.

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You just ain whistlin' Dixie- times tables worked perfect when I was in school! Far too much bullsh*t in the education system today. Got all this fancy smancy sh*t but don't teach the kids to spell!
 
taxslave
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Jan 9th, 2013
And people wonder why kids are disfunctional when they hit the workforce.
 
karrie
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Jan 9th, 2013
scary stuff. And by scary stuff, I mean his fear mongering. Now don't get me wrong... I'd probably rip on the teacher for that content, based on the fact that the distributive property has nothing to do with distributing wealth as far as I can see. And trust me, we've ripped on the school district and education minister for content in the past (and had it changed). But, to imply that the government run school is feeding your kid propoganda any moreso than your own content would be feeding kids propoganda, is ridiculous. What's also ridiculous, is to assert that the schools are writing the books... such is not the case. School materials are written by third party companies, and subject to free market forces. They reflect what society at large is willing to pay for, what it won't find objectionable, as well as what the school boards are willing to pay for. It's a complicated interplay that by no means is merely a 'leftist' issue (if it were, evolution would be taught in all schools across the US without question, and creationism and/or intelligent design never would). It is a district issue, subject to the pressure of the tax payers whose children are in said schools.
 
PoliticalNick
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Jan 9th, 2013
You guys obviously never did any advanced math. The distributive principle is used in algebra and calculus many times as well as in engineering. I don't like the reference to wealth as a demonstration but the principle is valid and should be taught.
 
JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNickView Post

You guys obviously never did any advanced math. The distributive principle is used in algebra and calculus many times as well as in engineering. I don't like the reference to wealth as a demonstration but the principle is valid and should be taught.

Oh, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, logarithms, calculus...........what did I miss? Actually everything is a function of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. I sometimes help my grand daughters with their math. It's not the math that's the problem today, it's the way they have of expressing things..............it's a lot of bullsh*t!
 
DaSleeper
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Oh, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, logarithms, calculus...........what did I miss? Actually everything is a function of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. I sometimes help my grand daughters with their math. It's not the math that's the problem today, it's the way they have of expressing things..............it's a lot of bullsh*t!

Do yo remember when the first portable LED calculator came out? The first one I bought could only do simple add, substact, divide and multiply.
The first week I had it I kept back checking it with pencil and paper.....after that I began to trust it for calculations in the lab at work
 
JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Do yo remember when the first portable LED calculator came out? The first one I bought could only do simple add, substact, divide and multiply.
The first week I had it I kept back checking it with pencil and paper.....after that I began to trust it for calculations in the lab at work

Back in the '60s the most advanced calculator was the Facit, mechanical you cranked it by hand and you could advance it from thousands hundreds, tens, units etc. In the early 70s electronic calculators made the scene.
 
Sal
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Jan 9th, 2013
OMG guys seriously? Because it's a bag with a cash sign on it you think it's subtle attempt at indoctrination with an agenda attached to it.

If only it were that easy to indoctrinate them with anything.

You guys should go back and spend some time in the school system today to see the little darlings in action. You might be quite horrified.

With the constant classroom interruptions by parents throughout the day, dropping them off late, dropping stuff off that they forgot, collecting them for appointments, along with dealing with children who come to school hungry, emotionally traumatized because of their home life, schoolyard antics (what parents perceive to be as bullying and expect it dealt with tout de suite) and each and every issue has to be dealt with by the teacher.

There are regulations from on high regarding learning styles and how things should be taught, and how you can and can not discipline them, how much curriculum you must motor through, how they are tested. That is just a tiny part of a day within a school and that doesn't even include all the stuff about inclusion and each child's rights And each parent thinks their child is the only one in that room.

Soooooooo if that is meant to indoctrinate... good freaking luck.

And NOW, some people who like to carry guns and know lots about guns, but little about the school system think they are experts in security and think that teachers should be armed as well.

Sheer lunacy.
 
JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

OMG guys seriously? Because it's a bag with a cash sign on it you think it's subtle attempt at indoctrination with an agenda attached to it.

If only it were that easy to indoctrinate them with anything.

You guys should go back and spend some time in the school system today to see the little darlings in action. You might be quite horrified.

With the constant classroom interruptions by parents throughout the day, dropping them off late, dropping stuff off that they forgot, collecting them for appointments, along with dealing with children who come to school hungry, emotionally traumatized because of their home life, schoolyard antics (what parents perceive to be as bullying and expect it dealt with tout de suite) and each and every issue has to be dealt with by the teacher.

There are regulations from on high regarding learning styles and how things should be taught, and how you can and can not discipline them, how much curriculum you must motor through, how they are tested. That is just a tiny part of a day within a school and that doesn't even include all the stuff about inclusion and each child's rights And each parent thinks their child is the only one in that room.

Soooooooo if that is meant to indoctrinate... good freaking luck.

And NOW, some people who like to carry guns and know lots about guns, but little about the school system think they are experts in security and think that teachers should be armed as well.

Sheer lunacy.

yep, much simplier when I went to school, we did what the teacher said without question or you regretted not doing it and lived in mortal fear our parents would find out. I'll bet when I was in school not one teacher got told to "F... off" in 12 years.-
 
PoliticalNick
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Jan 9th, 2013
The worst part of today's school system is the lack of failing grades. I mean really! WTF are they trying to do? When these kids hit the real world and screw up at work & get fired for failing they are gonna be so traumatized from never having the experience before they will be PTSD and depression and claiming disability.
 
JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNickView Post

The worst part of today's school system is the lack of failing grades. I mean really! WTF are they trying to do? When these kids hit the real world and screw up at work & get fired for failing they are gonna be so traumatized from never having the experience before they will be PTSD and depression and claiming disability.

We can't be hurting little Johnny's feelings, so he feels badly about himself. You save failure for when they are grown up and can handle going to jail or getting shot or going bankrupt.-
 
Sal
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNickView Post

The worst part of today's school system is the lack of failing grades. I mean really! WTF are they trying to do? When these kids hit the real world and screw up at work & get fired for failing they are gonna be so traumatized from never having the experience before they will be PTSD and depression and claiming disability.

Have to say I was right there with you on that sentiment until I started working in the system. It's a whole different world now. If they are already failing, holding them back won't motivate them to pass or help them to pass, it will just label them intellectually as slow and they will just act out and cause problems in the classroom for the others.

They won't catch up because they likely can't and teachers hands are tied with the discipline thing. And they have all kinds of legal ramifications placed on them for the child's safety etc. Some kid comes to school bruised and says the wrong thing about how it happened and you had best get your behind into the office and contact Children and Family Services because if they IS a legit problem and you haven't reported it, your a s s is grass. On the other hand kids say bizarre things and then oops parents can be livid because you reported it.

And there are so many more of these children now than when I went to school. WOW, I bet there are 5 or 6 per room easily. AND even kids who are so developmentally challenged that they will likely never hold a job, are all in the classroom now. They put in Educational Assistants to help these kids but there is only so much money for that and they are the first cut.

So can you imagine trying to teach a classroom of 20 kids usually a split grade thanks to the libs and their 20 cap and you have so many social problems, and behavioral issues and then kids who are functioning at very low levels and they have to teach these kids arithmetic and reading and writing etc, etc. etc. Nightmare. I honestly don't know how any learning gets done.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

yep, much simplier when I went to school, we did what the teacher said without question or you regretted not doing it and lived in mortal fear our parents would find out. I'll bet when I was in school not one teacher got told to "F... off" in 12 years.-

LOL you are so right there. I had nuns and you didn't look sideways at them or they would haul off and smash you, quite literally. In the older grades they would wing chalk at kids or grab them by the shirt front and pull them up until their toes were barely hitting the ground. pfffffffffffffffft...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassault. .. hehe
 
Spade
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Jan 9th, 2013
If the group didn't like distributive, they'd absolutely quivver with rage at commutative, closure, and other field properties.
 
DaSleeper
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Jan 9th, 2013
They work on the adults in a different way......
UN Agenda 21: Environmental Piracy

This UN document is interesting.....in a scary way....

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org...s/Agenda21.pdf
 
Spade
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Jan 9th, 2013
Thank gawd, paranoia isn't distributive; but it is additive.
 
DaSleeper
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Thank gawd, paranoia isn't distributive; but it is additive.

And you read a 350 page document already.....Gawd you're fast
 
Spade
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Jan 9th, 2013
Yep, skipped the pictures.
 
Sal
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Yep, skipped the pictures.

lmao...I like that one
 
Spade
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Jan 9th, 2013
The distributive property in elementary grades can be used for mental math.
Example. Hey, Locutus, what's 27 times 12? No pencils, please! And no calculator...
Momentary pause...
Sally says, without flinching, 324.
How'd she do that?
27 x 12 = 27 x (10 + 2)
= 27x10 + 27x2
= 270 + 54
= 324
 
Tonington
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

If the group didn't like distributive, they'd absolutely quivver with rage at commutative, closure, and other field properties.

You have the order all wrong. Commutative should come after closure. Commie bastard mathematicians!

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

The distributive property in elementary grades can be used for mental math.
Example. Hey, Locutus, what's 27 times 12? No pencils, please! And no calculator...
Momentary pause...
Sally says, without flinching, 324.
How'd she do that?
27 x 12 = 27 x (10 + 2)
= 27x10 + 27x2
= 270 + 54
= 324

Gasp, you mean you want students to understand fundamental concepts? Rather than memorization and long form calculations? Socialist!
 
Spade
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

You have the order all wrong. Commutative should come after closure. Commie bastard mathematicians!



Gasp, you mean you want students to understand fundamental concepts? Rather than memorization and long form calculations? Socialist!

From each, according to his ability...
 
damngrumpy
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Jan 9th, 2013
There are all kinds of things out there that I could take issue with today some of it
valid some just silly like this one. It is an example and a form of math calculation.
Our the children that simple they are going to be hypnotised into a belief system?
Actually no, children, healthy children question everything and as a parent all of
us have faced that at one time or another.
The real problem I have is with children being taught hate in the halls of education
and Sunday School No I am not talking about the majority of schools and churches
but there are some scary examples like the Westboro Baptists and their hate we saw
right here on these threads.
Some years ago there was a school in Central Alberta that allegedly preached a form
of hatred for minorities for a while, if I am not mistaken, I think it was Bentley or some
place near there. I have some information on it somewhere in my dormant files but
somebody out there might remember.
I believe kids should learn about all sectors of society, not to indoctrinated but to inform
and educate. The reason scam artists do so well is because ignorance in many cases
is still king. If people can see the workings of a scam artist they won't likely fall for the
nonsense in the first place.
Children are no different if we truly educate them the first thing they will learn is there is
more than one opinion about everything and they should develop their own view based
on as much information as possible.
 
JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

There are all kinds of things out there that I could take issue with today some of it
valid some just silly like this one. It is an example and a form of math calculation.
Our the children that simple they are going to be hypnotised into a belief system?
Actually no, children, healthy children question everything and as a parent all of
us have faced that at one time or another.
The real problem I have is with children being taught hate in the halls of education
and Sunday School No I am not talking about the majority of schools and churches
but there are some scary examples like the Westboro Baptists and their hate we saw
right here on these threads.
Some years ago there was a school in Central Alberta that allegedly preached a form
of hatred for minorities for a while, if I am not mistaken, I think it was Bentley or some
place near there. I have some information on it somewhere in my dormant files but
somebody out there might remember.
I believe kids should learn about all sectors of society, not to indoctrinated but to inform
and educate. The reason scam artists do so well is because ignorance in many cases
is still king. If people can see the workings of a scam artist they won't likely fall for the
nonsense in the first place.
Children are no different if we truly educate them the first thing they will learn is there is
more than one opinion about everything and they should develop their own view based
on as much information as possible.

Keegstra from Eckville is memory serves me!
 
damngrumpy
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Jan 9th, 2013
Keegstra you are right, allegedly there was a school in Bentley that was run
by someone else who had links to him, I think its time I dug out some of my
old files on this.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Jan 9th, 2013
I thought the distributive property was just a mathimatical property.

5*(2+5) = (5*2) + (5*5)

Math problems as I recall always involved cash, trains or apples. Mary had $20 for 3 apples. Apples are $6 a piece. If she buys all 3 apples, will she have enough cash left for her $3 train ride home? Discuss.
 
JLM
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Jan 9th, 2013
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Keegstra you are right, allegedly there was a school in Bentley that was run
by someone else who had links to him, I think its time I dug out some of my
old files on this.

That guy is nuts. Why don't they talk to some holocaust survivors before shooting off their trap?
 
Spade
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Jan 9th, 2013
It was tied to fundamentalism.
 
damngrumpy
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Jan 9th, 2013
I'd rather be skiing, if that is the case there are far more things to worry about.

As for teaching children other things in schools just a touch on the Registrar
affair that had a lot to do with education. Keegstra was the subject of an
inquiry, that lasted a little shorter than two years. His teachings and beliefs
were defended by some notable people including one Stockwell Day.
Day was the Principal of a fundamentalist school in Bentley and the schools
curriculum included alleged derogatory statements against Muslims and
Jews. Day personally denied he had those views, but the school curriculum
taught them at the time it was alleged. Don't remember the outcome of
the inquiry. It would appear to me that teaching things like that or the
Westboro Baptist Church and it teachings would be much more damaging
than a math equation that could be interpreted several different ways.
To be fair it was never proven that Mr. Day shared all the views of the curriculum.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
#30

Re: Get 'em while they're young

Jan 9th, 2013
PS
That's not the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic.
 

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