Paying People Not To Work Saved Millions Of Jobs


Locutus
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Obama Labor Secretary Hilda Solis: “Millions Of Jobs Were Saved” By Extending Unemployment Benefits…

Only in Obamaland does paying people not to work = Jobs.


Via Zero Hedge:
Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis made her ubiquitous post-NFP appearance on CNBC this morning and spouted the usual propaganda. However, while discussing how wonderful the ATRA was, the seemingly slap-happy Solis noted how great the fact that emergency unemployment benefits were extended for millions of people was – and that thanks to that (and the magic of the Keynesian multiplier), millions of jobs were saved. So, to sum up, paying people not to work, saved millions and millions of jobs? Indeed America, indeed.


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Hilda Solis: Paying People Not To Work Saved Millions Of Jobs | ZeroHedge


Give me a break.
 
Spade
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EagleSmack
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Not just that... it keeps the Dumbocrat base filled.
 
DaSleeper
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I just hope you guys make sure that Obama stays healthy over the next four years when you consider the alternative now...


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L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Hilda Solis: Paying People Not To Work Saved Millions Of Jobs | ZeroHedge

Give me a break.

lol Politicians are the strangest people for reasoning abilities.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
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Not just politicians.
 
Goober
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Why do they not do what FDR did. Pay them and put them to work.
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Why do they not do what FDR did. Pay them and put them to work.

One word.......................................Unions
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

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Obama Labor Secretary Hilda Solis: “Millions Of Jobs Were Saved” By Extending Unemployment Benefits…
Only in Obamaland does paying people not to work = Jobs.
Via Zero Hedge:Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis made her ubiquitous post-NFP appearance on CNBC this morning and spouted the usual propaganda. However, while discussing how wonderful the ATRA was, the seemingly slap-happy Solis noted how great the fact that emergency unemployment benefits were extended for millions of people was – and that thanks to that (and the magic of the Keynesian multiplier), millions of jobs were saved. So, to sum up, paying people not to work, saved millions and millions of jobs? Indeed America, indeed.

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Not too sure about millions of jobs saved but it did save the jobs of all the thousands of bureaucraps that look after the welfare system. with no clients they would be redundant and we can't have a redundant government employee since that would mean the managers are not doing their worthless job properly.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

One word.......................................Unions

Like Chretien said- make a law- pass a law it is law.
They did that with Welfare.
 
petros
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hahahaha....The Spastics fans can't figure this out?

If you run a company and have 10 employees, hard times come you cut 5 and keep operating.

Now if you lay off 10 you have no employees earning you money, if you kept all 10 working you'd have employees but no money and no company because you'd go broke and close your doors

Keeping 5 working and a company running means there is still a company to hire the other 5 back.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

One word.......................................Unions

One word for you...Spastics!
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

...Spastics!

That must be the "Mot du jour" .....New word you learned to-day......you been throwing it around all day.....
 
petros
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It's the name of your sport. You DaSleeper are a Spastics fan.

And this is the Spastics Cup



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Last edited by petros; Jan 4th, 2013 at 08:33 PM..
 
DaSleeper
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There's medication for that obsession of yours........
 
SLM
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I wish someone would pay me not to work. I do it really well.
 
Goober
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Lets get back to polite Eh.
 
damngrumpy
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First of all, there were unions during the FDR era, and they actually became popular
as a result of the conditions that were born out of the Great Depression.
As for paying people to do nothing this might not be as strange as one thinks.

There are all kinds of people out ther who, for what ever reason. are not employable.
There are those who abused drugs, or have special needs and so on, they take up
space in training programs that will not lead to employment on a long term bases.
Perhaps we should consider assisting them while investing in people who will be
productive. The reason I say this is we see people take training for something only
to be retrained for something else which means we wasted the money on those who
won't do what they were first trained to do.
If we just cut the problem people off we will pay for them in prisons and other social
programs like assistance so we get to pay even more. I am not talking guaranteed
annual income either, but sustainable is better than wasting training spots on
people who cannot measure up. Should we do it? Don't know, but we should as a
society discuss it.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by grumpy

There are all kinds of people out ther who, for what ever reason. are not employable.
There are those who abused drugs, or have special needs and so on, they take up
space in training programs that will not lead to employment on a long term bases.
Perhaps we should consider assisting them while investing in people who will be
productive

. ...in order to get on pogey and have your bennys extended you'd had to have worked first.
Quote: Originally Posted by OPIE

the seemingly slap-happy Solis noted how great the fact that emergency unemployment benefits were extended for millions of people was – and that thanks to that (and the magic of the Keynesian multiplier), millions of jobs were saved.

 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

I wish someone would pay me not to work. I do it really well.

The biggest advantage I find about doing nothing is if I don't get it finished today I can continue on with it tomorrow.
 
damngrumpy
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I was referring more to social assistance I guess. If we don't put up a minimum amount
of social assistance we will have these same people in the prison system before long and
that would cost even more money in the long run. Of course those who are not productive
we could just shoot them. ah, but them we have to bury them and the cost of bullets will
rise.
 
Spade
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Not if we contract the manufacture of bullets to third-world nations to take advantage of cheap labour.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

I was referring more to social assistance I guess. If we don't put up a minimum amount
of social assistance we will have these same people in the prison system before long and
that would cost even more money in the long run. Of course those who are not productive
we could just shoot them. ah, but them we have to bury them and the cost of bullets will
rise.

Let's take it one step further, give them the social assistance but in graduated amounts, depending on how much they are willing to do (and there's lots to do) Picking up litter on our streets and vacant lots etc. would probably keep a dozen of them busy for a couple of months just in Vernon. People who are doing something are generally healthier than those who don't so our health costs would decrease.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Why do they not do what FDR did. Pay them and put them to work.

That's called stimulus and apparently it's more important right now to reduce the deficit. America-Canada as well- has crumbling infrastructure. Fix the demand issue in the economy with jobs building new infrastructure and a large part of the deficit problem is solved. As to the OP, welfare spending doesn't even require a multiplier effect to make the assertion true. Giving money to people who otherwise would have none increases demand in the economy. No hand wringing will make that fact untrue.
 
Locutus
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Saved millions and millions of jobs

Saved millions and millions

millions and millions

of jobs.

 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by spadeView Post

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hey!.... Look over there!>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Saved millions and millions of jobs

Saved millions and millions

millions and millions

of jobs.

It saved millions and millions of employers, who have hired back millions and millions of employees when they could once again afford to hire them back.

You still can't see that eh?
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It saved millions and millions of employers, who have hired back millions and millions of employees when they could once again afford to hire them back.

You still can't see that eh?


The employers still need viable markets in which to sell their wares.... No point in rehiring and increasing the supply side of the equation until such time that the demand side of the equation justifies that move.

It's a mugs game...
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

That's called stimulus and apparently it's more important right now to reduce the deficit. America-Canada as well- has crumbling infrastructure. Fix the demand issue in the economy with jobs building new infrastructure and a large part of the deficit problem is solved. As to the OP, welfare spending doesn't even require a multiplier effect to make the assertion true. Giving money to people who otherwise would have none increases demand in the economy. No hand wringing will make that fact untrue.

Lets spend the money on real infrastructure projects then, not make work projects. We got taxpayer money going to build hiking trails along side the abandoned railway, while roads are going to $hit.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The employers still need viable markets in which to sell their wares.... No point in rehiring and increasing the supply side of the equation until such time that the demand side of the equation justifies that move.

It's a mugs game...

Exactly and you want the people you spent a fortune training back rather than go through the painful, expensive process of hiring fresh, weeding out the deadbeats and training the new. If they weren't on pogey they'd be long gone.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

That's called stimulus and apparently it's more important right now to reduce the deficit. America-Canada as well- has crumbling infrastructure. Fix the demand issue in the economy with jobs building new infrastructure and a large part of the deficit problem is solved. As to the OP, welfare spending doesn't even require a multiplier effect to make the assertion true. Giving money to people who otherwise would have none increases demand in the economy. No hand wringing will make that fact untrue.

That's a new one, how does that work?

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The employers still need viable markets in which to sell their wares.... No point in rehiring and increasing the supply side of the equation until such time that the demand side of the equation justifies that move.

It's a mugs game...

Yep, creating jobs just for the sake of jobs never did make any sense!

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Lets spend the money on real infrastructure projects then, not make work projects. We got taxpayer money going to build hiking trails along side the abandoned railway, while roads are going to $hit.

That's one of the problems with these "make work" projects, all too often an idiot is put in charge of it.
 
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