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#1Nov 11th, 2012 
Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
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#2Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012
If only people would listen, instead of brushing her off if she's not 'on their team'.
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#3 Top Rated PostRe: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
I listen to her, that's why I posted the video.. she's a very smart, progressive and professional women. I like her style.If only people would listen, instead of brushing her off if she's not 'on their team'.
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#4Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012
I have never actually seen her before though I do see her name thrown around a lot. What she said here seems to make sense.
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#5Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012
She must be getting ready to join the Barney Frank team at the male Brothel he owns.
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#6Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Highball
What and take your job!! BTW, does your new kneepads have a pocket for breath fresheners?She must be getting ready to join the Barney Frank team at the male Brothel he owns.
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB
Strange that people make sense when they just repeat what you already believe in.......I have never actually seen her before though I do see her name thrown around a lot. What she said here seems to make sense.
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#8Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Highball
You have a fancy for Barney? Are you a jilted lover?She must be getting ready to join the Barney Frank team at the male Brothel he owns.
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
And your point is?"Nobody is taking away anyone's guns..."
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
Made.And your point is?
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
Not.Made.
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#13Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
That's what she said.Strange that people make sense when they just repeat what you already believe in.......
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#14Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
She put up a bit of an argument. You haven't. The Democrats only won by default which she is arguing against. She says that the Republicans need to get back on their feet and offer a reasonable alternative - which they didnt really do this time around. Without a reasonable alternative the Democrats can not only stay in office but basically do whatever they want. That applies not only to the US but every democracy. You need at least two credible options to chose between and to have a reasonable debate. Obama should have lost, but the Republicans didnt come off as being any better than Obama. In fact the strong social conservatism in the Republican party made them seem far worse. Strange that people make sense when they just repeat what you already believe in.......
The same is true up here. A big part of Harper winning the election here in 2011 was that there was no credible alternative.
Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
And the only way that will happen is if congress approves it which would require Republican votes, so its not happening."Nobody is taking away anyone's guns..."
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban
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#15Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
Liberals do the same thing. Unless the "conservative" is "moderate", they won't listen, because any true conservative is racist, misogynist, or "cramming religion down our throats".If only people would listen, instead of brushing her off if she's not 'on their team'.
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
Love how you suppress the truth here. Not.
Maddow said "nobody's taking anyone's guns away...", after Obama called for an assault weapons ban.
Maddow is a liar. Why don't you try to put some "liberal spin" on this and prove us wrong.
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
You for everyone and their dog having the ability to walk in and buy assault guns? And I am not doing Liberal spin.Liberals do the same thing. Unless the "conservative" is "moderate", they won't listen, because any true conservative is racist, misogynist, or "cramming religion down our throats".
Love how you suppress the truth here.
Maddow said "nobody's taking anyone's guns away...", after Obama called for an assault weapons ban.
Maddow is a liar. Why don't you try to put some "liberal spin" on this and prove us wrong.
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
She's partially wrong on a single point. There's no plan to take guns away generally, she's right about that, but the administration does want a ban on assault weapons, so those might get taken away from the relatively few people who have them. And for that you dismiss her as a liar. Considering what else you said in that post, do you not see the irony in that?Maddow is a liar.
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
Yes. I can go buy an assault weapon tonight if I wanted to, unless it was a handgun. Handguns have a ridiculous 4 week waiting period after purchase.You for everyone and their dog having the ability to walk in and buy assault guns? And I am not doing Liberal spin.
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
And what use is an assault rifle?Yes. I can go buy an assault weapon tonight if I wanted to, unless it was a handgun. Handguns have a ridiculous 4 week waiting period after purchase.
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#20Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
Of course. If she says "nobody's taking anyone's guns away" and some folks no matter the limited number DO end up losing their assault weapons, this would make her a wrong, no? I think she's smart enough to know exactly what an assault weapon ban could at least curtail. That would make not only wrong but a liar in my books.And for that you dismiss her as a liar.
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
Hunting dangerous and delicious animals and keeping the King of England out of your face of course!And what use is an assault rifle?
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
You've heard me bash zealots on both sides of the aisle to know that I think picking a tem, no matter which team, over your nation is wrong.Liberals do the same thing. Unless the "conservative" is "moderate", they won't listen, because any true conservative is racist, misogynist, or "cramming religion down our throats".
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Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
We can certainly hear both sides out, that's only fair, but the nation can't follow two opposing ideologies at the same time.You've heard me bash zealots on both sides of the aisle to know that I think picking a tem, no matter which team, over your nation is wrong.
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
Peace, fairness, justice, freedom - Is that an ideology?We can certainly hear both sides out, that's only fair, but the nation can't follow two opposing ideologies at the same time.
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#24Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
No it's not. Everyone is "pro-peace", "pro-fairness", "pro-justice" and "pro-freedom". Unfortunately liberals can't clue in that:Peace, fairness, justice, freedom - Is that an ideology?
- "Pro-peace" means being "anti-bully" (war may be necessary to ensure peace, or that a strong military is a deterrent)
- "Pro-fairness" means you can't rob the rich to help the poor (socialism)
- "Pro-justice" doesn't include denying an unborn child it's God-given right to life
- "Pro-freedom" doesn't mean you can suppress criticism of Muslims or homosexual behavior (for example) under the guise of "hate-speech"
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
sure it can. We can certainly hear both sides out, that's only fair, but the nation can't follow two opposing ideologies at the same time.
how healthcare, and how corporations run, for example, do not need to follow the same ideology. How a poor state and how a rich state need to be governed, are not the same thing.
One single rigid ideology will never be optimal.
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
Let's pick one moral issue like abortion. One side says yes, the other no. How can we follow both ideologies at the same time. We can't!sure it can.
how healthcare, and how corporations run, for example, do not need to follow the same ideology. How a poor state and how a rich state need to be governed, are not the same thing.
One single rigid ideology will never be optimal.
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#27Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
Life is full of decision. each single issue requires a decision. The problem is that Democrats and Republicans have a set script, and try to apply it religiously to all decisions. You can't. Yes, in the end, abortion needs a decision. and one side wins or loses, but that doesn't qualify them to make the rest of the decisions.Let's pick one moral issue like abortion. One side says yes, the other no. How can we follow both ideologies at the same time. We can't!
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Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
What wars since 1991 were justified.No it's not. Everyone is "pro-peace", "pro-fairness", "pro-justice" and "pro-freedom". Unfortunately liberals can't clue in that:
- "Pro-peace" means being "anti-bully" (war may be necessary to ensure peace, or that a strong military is a deterrent)
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Camel and the eye of the needle comes to mind- "Pro-fairness" means you can't rob the rich to help the poor (socialism)
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I believe in Free Will. Do you?- "Pro-justice" doesn't include denying an unborn child it's God-given right to life
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Inciting hatred is justified? I think not- Religious Fundamentalists as yourself condemn all Muslims based upon Religion and your religious Beliefs- Again I believe in Free Will"Pro-freedom" doesn't mean you can suppress criticism of Muslims or homosexual behavior (for example) under the guise of "hate-speech"
Tell me what Jesus spoke about Homosexuality.
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#29Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
Lucky for you most liberals are fair minded enough to permit you to spew your hatred against muslims, homosexuals and women that have a right to determine what happens to their bodies. Liberals also protect your right to belong to whatever whacked out cult you wish.No it's not. Everyone is "pro-peace", "pro-fairness", "pro-justice" and "pro-freedom". Unfortunately liberals can't clue in that:
- "Pro-peace" means being "anti-bully" (war may be necessary to ensure peace, or that a strong military is a deterrent)
- "Pro-fairness" means you can't rob the rich to help the poor (socialism)
- "Pro-justice" doesn't include denying an unborn child it's God-given right to life
- "Pro-freedom" doesn't mean you can suppress criticism of Muslims or homosexual behavior (for example) under the guise of "hate-speech"
Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
Did I miss something? Someone FORCE you to have an abortion? Thought not. Yet you are perfectly willing to force your cult dogma on others.Let's pick one moral issue like abortion. One side says yes, the other no. How can we follow both ideologies at the same time. We can't!
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#30Re: Rachel Maddow on Obama's Re-election
Nov 11th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
I can agree on that. That no one side is qualified to make all the decisions based on a favorable decision they get on a single issue.Life is full of decision. each single issue requires a decision. The problem is that Democrats and Republicans have a set script, and try to apply it religiously to all decisions. You can't. Yes, in the end, abortion needs a decision. and one side wins or loses, but that doesn't qualify them to make the rest of the decisions.
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Operation Desert StormWhat wars since 1991 were justified?
Afghanistan
Operation Iraqi Freedom
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That has nothing to do with socialism. The moral of that parable is to not love money like a "god", not "tax the rich". Camel and the eye of the needle comes to mind
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Sure, but just because some folks use their free will to commit murder doesn't make it right. Hello! I believe in Free Will. Do you?
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Allowed would be a more fitting word than justified. Justified would mean those views have merit. Inciting hatred is justified? I think not- Religious Fundamentalists as yourself condemn all Muslims based upon Religion and your religious Beliefs- Again I believe in Free Will
More word play. JUDGMENT of Muslims and their religion isn't "condemnation". To condemn Muslims would be to tell them they're going to hell - no matter what. (Which I won't do because they still have time to convert)
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Gladly. He condemned it:Tell me what Jesus spoke about Homosexuality.
ASK THE PREACHER - Did Jesus Say Anything About Homosexuality Carl Gallups Explains - YouTube
Also, a heads up. "Tolerance" of homosexual behavior is NOT the same as "acceptance". I'm also wise to that word play, so please don't try it.
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