Romney and his Foreign Policy – Does he have one?


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Obama on Foreign Policy 1 20.00%
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Obama on Domestic Policy 1 20.00%
Romney by a country mile on Foreign Policy 4 80.00%
Obama by a country mile on Foreign Policy 1 20.00%
Romney by a country mile on Domestic Policy 3 60.00%
Obama by a country mile on Domestic Policy 0 0%
Domestic Policy - Not sure who has the best policy 0 0%
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Goober
Free Thinker
#1
Romney and his Foreign Policy – Does he have one- that does not change – one where he disagrees with Obama then supports it.

The next Presidential debate is on Foreign Policy – Who will get their repsective butts handed to them -Romney or Obama - `6 Oct – Foreign and Domestic Policy

Link to a variety of articles
Mitt Romney | Foreign Policy

The Battle for Mitt Romney's Soul - By Danielle Pletka, Joshua Treviño, and Justin Logan | Foreign Policy
Foreign Policy asked three smart conservatives of different stripes to ****yze Mitt Romney's big foreign-policy address, and tell us which wing of the Republican Party is winning the battle for Romney's soul. Here's what they told us:

Mitt Romney’s foreign policy speech: A leadership moment? - The Washington Post

What the speech didn’t include were many new specifics about his overall views on foreign policy, though that’s hardly surprising. Weeks before the election, it’s the context of the remarks rather than their content that candidates prioritize. We did not get major revelations of how, exactly, Romney plans to “recommit America to the goal of a democratic, prosperous Palestinian state” and succeed with Middle East negotiations when he was filmed earlier this year telling donors he planned to “kick the ball down the field” when it comes to significant action in the region. We did not get more detail on how Romney intends to pay for an expansion of the military without significantly adding to the national debt.
What we did get was more ridicule of the infamous “lead from behind” philosophy that Republicans love to associate with Obama. We got the nominee standing in front of a room full of uniformed soldiers speaking with confidence on foreign policy issues. And as for new details, we got a little bit of news that he would name one U.S. official to get control of “all assistance efforts in the greater Middle East” and a vow to build “15 ships per year, including three submarines.”

Defense Budget | The Best Defense
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During last week's debate, President Obama said several times that Governor Romney would increase defense spending by $2 trillion. Romney didn't protest. Obama's claim is accurate, but the underlying issue goes far beyond arithmetic. It is really about strategic risk and national priorities. The candidates' differing visions for defense spending represent the most significant contrast on national security policy in the 2012 election.
DOD's 2013 base budget excluding war funds is $525 billion, which equals 3.3 percent of GDP. Under Obama's plan, it will continue to grow modestly in future years. Romney has said that he wants to reverse the Obama-era cuts, return to the 2010 plan crafted by Robert Gates, and set the goal of spending 4 percent of GDP on defense. Those three objectives are different, so he'll have some wiggle room should he become president.

Plenty of War Clouds But No Daylight in Governor Romney's Speech - By Daniel Levy | The Middle East Channel

Governor Romney's foreign policy address to the Virginia Military Institute (VMI) today focused almost exclusively on the broader Middle East region. The speech was predictably light on the policy details of what a Romney presidency would actually do differently and just as predictably heavy in its finger-wagging at President Barack Obama's supposed failure of leadership. True, the "Mitt hearts Israel" parts of the speech were even more to be expected: then again those barely belong in the category of "foreign" policy.

Romney's foreign policy twilight zone - CNN.com

The critiques of Romney's foreign policy are just as incoherent as Romney's foreign policy | FP Passport

As my colleague Dan Drezner notes today, excerpts released ahead of Mitt Romney's big foreign-policy speech at the Virginia Military Institute this morning suggest that the Republican candidate isn't going to be rolling out much new policy content in his address. The problem, Drezner adds, is that Romney's rhetoric on international affairs has been pretty opaque so far:
If one pushes past the overheated rhetoric, then you discover that Romney wants a lot of the same ends as Barack Obama -- a stable, peaceful and free Middle East, for example.* But that's not shocking -- any major party president will want the same ends.* The differenes are in the*means through which a president will achieve those ends.* And -- in op-ed after op-ed, in speech after speech -- Romney either elides the means*altogether, mentions means that the Obama administration is already using, or just says the word "resolve" a lot.* That's insufficient.*
But if Romney's foreign-policy views have been incoherent, the Obama campaign's criticisms of Romney's positions have been no less perplexing. Simply put, team Obama can't seem to decide whether the president's challenger is the second coming of Barack Obama or George W. Bush -- or a different beast entirely: a blundering buffoon or possibly an inveterate flip-flipper.
The case for vagueness | FP Passport
 
wizard
#2
... yes, mitt romney has a foreign policy position. why wouldn't he?
 
B00Mer
Libertarian
+1
#3  Top Rated Post


Awsome! Romney continues to hand Obama his ****! In contrast Obama has been on an apology tour since 2012 for America's existence. We saw this in action when our Libyan Ambassador was killed. Did Obama get angry and claim we are going to hunt down the terrorists and their Al Queda sponsers? No, instead he deliberatly LIED to America and the world claiming this was just a spontaneous riot. We now know he knew this within 24 hrs. Yet for weeks he went around claiming some dumb video was the cause!
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by wizardView Post

... yes, mitt romney has a foreign policy position. why wouldn't he?

Absolutely brilliant if not an exceptionally insightful comment.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Romney and his Foreign Policy – Does he have one- that does not change – one where he disagrees with Obama then supports it.


How about he uses Obama's general platform from 2008, something simple and doesn't require any proof or substance:

"Hope and Change "
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

How about he uses Obama's general platform from 2008, something simple and doesn't require any proof or substance:

"Hope and Change "

Mitt would have to flip that old saying around. I understand he has vast experience on flipping.
You have not voted.......

 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#7
I know too little about either candidate's foreign policy.

As for their domestic policy; if that is to include economic planning; well, let's just say that Obama has not been able to advance the US economy one iota
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I know too little about either candidate's foreign policy.

As for their domestic policy; if that is to include economic planning; well, let's just say that Obama has not been able to advance the US economy one iota

That is why I posted a number of links on Romneys FP stance- changes etc - A quick review will note his stumbling blocks.

So the next debate he will have Obama who ended 2 wars - Afghanistan next year for the second- Took out OBL- Why his FP is just like Bush the Lesser in many ways -

Had a variety of countries on the Libyan change- Arab countries as well- and the US did not lead it- smart politics.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
#9
Romney can win all the debate catagories and still lose the election for a few reasons.
One is people don't trust him, that is still a problem for Romney and it lingers in the
background. I have relatives in Washington that vote Republican usually but this time
they are going for Obama and they voted against him last time.
What is ironic is they are wealthier than most. Romney is supported by the Tea Party
and the odd folks and this bothers many fiscal conservatives. They also are beginning
to understand the failed Bush policies are the major reasons why there is such a mess.
Further to this, I think we are going to see a mood that crosses lines here, its a Truman,
Roosevelt kind of feeling. There is big trouble and even if you don't like the current guy
if he is stable you will vote for him. Again there is a large group of people who don't
trust Mitt Romney.
The major reason I think Obama wins, he has still got control of the electoral college
states that are needed.
This hype is like the recent election in Venezuela, all big doubt statements Hugo is dead
in the water and he wins by a million votes. Same may well happen here, the creators of
doubt sow the seeds of their own destruction, when people doubt in politics they go with
what is familiar. doubt breeds uncertainty, uncertainty breeds fear, and Obama is not a
negative person. Besides polls consistently show most people believe the economy under
Obama will be better next year. That is not good for Romney. Where does this come from?
I hear it from time to time when they quote stats on CNN.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Romney can win all the debate catagories and still lose the election for a few reasons.
One is people don't trust him, that is still a problem for Romney and it lingers in the
background. I have relatives in Washington that vote Republican usually but this time
they are going for Obama and they voted against him last time.
What is ironic is they are wealthier than most. Romney is supported by the Tea Party
and the odd folks and this bothers many fiscal conservatives. They also are beginning
to understand the failed Bush policies are the major reasons why there is such a mess.
Further to this, I think we are going to see a mood that crosses lines here, its a Truman,
Roosevelt kind of feeling. There is big trouble and even if you don't like the current guy
if he is stable you will vote for him. Again there is a large group of people who don't
trust Mitt Romney.
The major reason I think Obama wins, he has still got control of the electoral college
states that are needed.
This hype is like the recent election in Venezuela, all big doubt statements Hugo is dead
in the water and he wins by a million votes. Same may well happen here, the creators of
doubt sow the seeds of their own destruction, when people doubt in politics they go with
what is familiar. doubt breeds uncertainty, uncertainty breeds fear, and Obama is not a
negative person. Besides polls consistently show most people believe the economy under
Obama will be better next year. That is not good for Romney. Where does this come from?
I hear it from time to time when they quote stats on CNN.

Your opinion on FP would be
Or domestic policy

New Obama ad uses Big Bird to attack Romney (VIDEO) | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+1
#11
Romney's opinion of foreign policy is like all his other opinions it depends of the
person he talked to last. It is an improvement though, the last guy being GW
Bush was like having Gilligan in charge of the Island.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Romney's opinion of foreign policy is like all his other opinions it depends of the
person he talked to last. It is an improvement though, the last guy being GW
Bush was like having Gilligan in charge of the Island.

Here is the rub- Gilligan was in charge of the Island.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
#13
If he wins he'll fail at diplomacy and everything else. But he will always have the excuse of saying,


BLAME OBAMA!

BLAME CLINTON!

BLAME CARTER!

BLAME GOPHER!
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#14
Who is Mitt Rodney?
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#15
Of course Romeny has a foreign policy. It consists of talking over US businesses and shipping the jobs in them overseas after first stripping the firm of most of its assets. Other than that his foreign policy consists of studying Obama's policies and simply taking the opposite view regardless of whether that strategy works or not.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+1
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

Of course Romeny has a foreign policy. It consists of talking over US businesses and shipping the jobs in them overseas after first stripping the firm of most of its assets. Other than that his foreign policy consists of studying Obama's policies and simply taking the opposite view regardless of whether that strategy works or not.

Sounds alot like Obama's (or the NDP for that matter) platform, albeit, the socialists will do that via pushing taxes through the roof thereby seizing the assets and driving the business offshore.

Kinda unionish is ya ask me
 
The Old Medic
Conservative
#17
I would advise people to look at the last 16 US Presidential elections. Not one candidate outlined exactly what their "Foreign Policy" would be. They gave some broad statements, but that was it.

There are good reasons for this.

One: You do NOT telegraph to potential enemies what you plan to do or not do

Two: Specific are ALWAYS worked out on a case by case basis

Three: There is always information that a candidate for office is not privy to. To state a specific policy would be stupid, until you actually have all the information necessary to make a reasoned decision.

There are many other reason, but those are among the most important. ONLY partisan commentators try to make a big issue out of this.
 
TeddyBallgame
#18
- The Old Medic ... Clearly you know what you are talking about where foreign policy is concerned. For several sound reasons including those you have enumerated here, foreign policy is the most secretive and the least democratically directed and populist influenced sphere of politicial and policy endeavours.

- Only simplistic morons expect and only greenhorns and charlatans like Obama offer to announce withdrawal/surrender dates years ahead of time for the planning convenience of the enemy and thereby ensure American defeat which BO has managed to "achieve" in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

- You may well find here that expounding intelligently instead of simplsitically and emotionally on foreign policy is received rather like the reciting of Gregorian Chants ... it is neither understood nor appreciated.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by TeddyBallgameView Post

- The Old Medic ... Clearly you know what you are talking about where foreign policy is concerned. For several sound reasons including those you have enumerated here, foreign policy is the most secretive and the least democratically directed and populist influenced sphere of politicial and policy endeavours.

- Only simplistic morons expect and only greenhorns and charlatans like Obama offer to announce withdrawal/surrender dates years ahead of time for the planning convenience of the enemy and thereby ensure American defeat which BO has managed to "achieve" in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

- You may well find here that expounding intelligently instead of simplsitically and emotionally on foreign policy is received rather like the reciting of Gregorian Chants ... it is neither understood nor appreciated.

Still waiting for a reasonable answer on this post - I posted it again in the Birther Thread - Post No 4

Obama Vs the Birthers
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Sounds alot like Obama's (or the NDP for that matter) platform, albeit, the socialists will do that via pushing taxes through the roof thereby seizing the assets and driving the business offshore.

Kinda unionish is ya ask me

I thought you had at least a vague idea of NDP foreign policy, but it appears I was wrong as you have gottten everything backewards once again.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#21
Didn't ole Taliban Jack want to go and talk personally with those 'Taliban fellows'?

But that's an aside. The NDP's domestic policy in gutting domestic GDP via scaring away business through increasingly punitive taxes works in favor of Canadian business setting up shop overseas.

Nice little arrangement, eh? Dissuade domestic companies from operating in Canada, but we'll need to sell the raw materials to them in order to buy back the finished products.... In fact, weren't you pissing and moaning about this very issue on the thread that wondered why Canada doesn't have a oil/gas royalty regime similar to Norway?

Ah well, as per your MO - hypocrisy and a deep lack of understanding and knowledge abound in your perspective
Last edited by captain morgan; Oct 11th, 2012 at 06:05 AM..
 
TenPenny
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

I would advise people to look at the last 16 US Presidential elections. Not one candidate outlined exactly what their "Foreign Policy" would be. They gave some broad statements, but that was it.

How could anyone who wasn't President actually know enough to have a coherent detailed foreign policy?

Unless you were a complete policy wonk, you'd never have the time or knowledge to have any sort of detailed foreign policy until you were in office and being briefed on the issues.
 
The Old Medic
Conservative
#23
In the USA, the opponent (or candidates) running for office, get regular weekly briefings on foreign intelligence, military operations, etc. This is required by law, and has been for many years. We do not want anyone coming into office without a clue as to what is going on in the world.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by The Old MedicView Post

In the USA, the opponent (or candidates) running for office, get regular weekly briefings on foreign intelligence, military operations, etc. This is required by law, and has been for many years. We do not want anyone coming into office without a clue as to what is going on in the world.

Bush the Lesser made it.
 
TeddyBallgame
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Bush the Lesser made it.

- Goober ... In a world full of change and uncertainty, it is somehow reassuring that we can always count upon you to be an uninformed, partisan, asinine left wing loon.

- Before becoming president, Bush had earned a history degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, had higher SATs and GPAs and IQ than the Donkey Party's 2004 genius John Kerry and probably higher SATs and undergrad GPAs than Obama whose marks are conveniently sealed, had flown combat jets in the Texas Reserve, started and ran and sold at a profit some oil and gas exploration companies, rescued the Texas Rangers from bankruptcy and the basement as their managing partner and was voted by the owners as the MLB executive of the year, beat a popular sitting Democratic governor (Ann Richards) in a then Democratic state to become the governor of the third largest state in the union and won re-election as governor with the highest margin n Texas history.

- Obama? Well, he was a "community organizer" meaning a sh$t disturbing rabble rouser on the mean streets of Chicago, a part time law school lecturer and a part time Illinois senator.

- Gee, I wonder who had the more relevant, extensive and impressive resume?
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by TeddyBallgameView Post

- Goober ... In a world full of change and uncertainty, it is somehow reassuring that we can always count upon you to be an uninformed, partisan, asinine left wing loon.

- Before becoming president, Bush had earned a history degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard, had higher SATs and GPAs and IQ than the Donkey Party's 2004 genius John Kerry and probably higher SATs and undergrad GPAs than Obama whose marks are conveniently sealed, had flown combat jets in the Texas Reserve, started and ran and sold at a profit some oil and gas exploration companies, rescued the Texas Rangers from bankruptcy and the basement as their managing partner and was voted by the owners as the MLB executive of the year, beat a popular sitting Democratic governor (Ann Richards) in a then Democratic state to become the governor of the third largest state in the union and won re-election as governor with the highest margin n Texas history.

- Obama? Well, he was a "community organizer" meaning a sh$t disturbing rabble rouser on the mean streets of Chicago, a part time law school lecturer and a part time Illinois senator.

- Gee, I wonder who had the more relevant, extensive and impressive resume?

Well how did Bush the Lesser do- Iraq is an Iranian proxy- Afghanistan - stayed when they should have left.
 

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