Login

White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

  • White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Locutus
+3
#1Sep 21st, 2012
after repeatedly denouncing Muhammad movie



Religious groups are blasting President Obama for not condemning am anti-Christian art display set to appear in New York City and one Republican lawmaker said he is “fed up with the administration’s double standard and religious hypocrisy.


“Piss Christ,” once branded as a “deplorable, despicable display of vulgarity,” will be displayed at the Edward Tyler Nahem Gallery in Manhattan on Thursday. The artwork features a “photograph of the crucifix submerged in the artist’s urine.”

The artwork debuted in 1989 and was funded through prize money provided by the National Endowment for the Arts. The art gallery hosting the retrospective salute to Andres Serrano is privately owned.

Religious groups and some lawmakers have already started sounding off – and making comparisons to the controversy over a recent anti-Muslim film. The low budget movie “Innocence of Muslims” sparked violent and deadly clashes across the globe.

It also brought strong rebukes, condemnations and apologies from President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and a host of administration officials.

The administration tried to have the film removed from YouTube – but Google rebuffed their request. The State Dept. spent $70,000 on a Pakistani television advertisement rebuking the film. And the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff personally telephoned a Christian minister in Florida to ask him to withdraw his support of the film.

more

WH Silent Over Demands to Denounce ‘Piss Christ’ Artwork | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

h/t Blazing Cat Fur: I call this "Piss Obama"
 
gerryh
+3
#2

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
typical
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
+11
#3  Top Rated Post

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
“fed up with the administration’s double standard and religious hypocrisy."

Wow. It sure seems like truer words have never been spoken!

And I'm sorry, but the object in question is not art. What it is, is garbage.
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
+3
#4

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

after repeatedly denouncing Muhammad movie



Religious groups are blasting President Obama for not condemning am anti-Christian art display set to appear in New York City and one Republican lawmaker said he is “fed up with the administration’s double standard and religious hypocrisy.


“Piss Christ,” once branded as a “deplorable, despicable display of vulgarity,” will be displayed at the Edward Tyler Nahem Gallery in Manhattan on Thursday. The artwork features a “photograph of the crucifix submerged in the artist’s urine.”

This is not art. It is the pretentious garbage of a self-important individual.

Quote:

The artwork debuted in 1989 and was funded through prize money provided by the National Endowment for the Arts. The art gallery hosting the retrospective salute to Andres Serrano is privately owned.

Religious groups and some lawmakers have already started sounding off – and making comparisons to the controversy over a recent anti-Muslim film. The low budget movie “Innocence of Muslims” sparked violent and deadly clashes across the globe.

This is also not art. It is a really bad, poorly made film that could only find an audience on YouTube.

Neither one of which is worth the time it takes to view them, let alone to get angry and violent over. For crying out loud, if we would all just learn to ignore these idiots when they make their "art" they would eventually go away. Pay them this much attention though, and we'll never be rid of them.
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
+3
#5

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

This is not art. It is the pretentious garbage of a self-important individual.

This is also not art. It is a really bad, poorly made film that could only find an audience on YouTube.

Neither one of which is worth the time it takes to view them, let alone to get angry and violent over. For crying out loud, if we would all just learn to ignore these idiots when they make their "art" they would eventually go away. Pay them this much attention though, and we'll never be rid of them.

The thing of it is, I wonder how many of the people that are getting so angry over this "film" have actually even seen it? It seems their leaders like to lather them up in a fanatical froth over the most inane reasons.

I guess that is where the detractors of Piss Christ differ from the ones railing against the movie. The detractors of Piss Christ aren't going around saying that the "artist" should be beheaded or anything so severe. That says something, doesn't it?
 
Kreskin
#6

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Who really cares? Whiners sounding like their radical Islam brothers.
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
+5
#7

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Who really cares? Whiners sounding like their radical Islam brothers.

No they don't. I don't hear them calling for the artist to be beheaded or anything final like that.
 
skookumchuck
Free Thinker
+3
#8

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

The thing of it is, I wonder how many of the people that are getting so angry over this "film" have actually even seen it? It seems their leaders like to lather them up in a fanatical froth over the most inane reasons.

I guess that is where the detractors of Piss Christ differ from the ones railing against the movie. The detractors of Piss Christ aren't going around saying that the "artist" should be beheaded or anything so severe. That says something, doesn't it?

That is the real point that needs be taken. We won't hold our breath though. I have inlaws that still send money to Jimmy Swaggart (he was forgiven by God ya know) but have not heard them advocate violence against those who do not share their beliefs.
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
+2
#9

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

The thing of it is, I wonder how many of the people that are getting so angry over this "film" have actually even seen it? It seems their leaders like to lather them up in a fanatical froth over the most inane reasons.

I guess that is where the detractors of Piss Christ differ from the ones railing against the movie. The detractors of Piss Christ aren't going around saying that the "artist" should be beheaded or anything so severe. That says something, doesn't it?

Yeah but it's all word of mouth, rumour and innuendo too. We see what the news reports show us. I'm quite sure there are lots of people in the M.E. right now that think the whole thing as stupid as we do.

But the fanaticism we do see is unnerving. I always kind of thought, we have our own nutbars over here, but we're more familiar with them so they're less frightening.
Last edited by SLM; Sep 21st, 2012 at 09:25 PM..
 
DaSleeper
+2
#10

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

It's all obvious. They attacked because the Prez is a Democrat. I've never seen an organized attack made with a Rep Prez. Everyone will be safe under Romney. Igpt my facts from FOX news.

Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Who really cares? Whiners sounding like their radical Islam brothers.

And the above was not whining........
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
+1
#11

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Yeah but it's all word of mouth, rumour and innuendo too. We see what the news reports show us. I'm quite sure there are lots of people in the M.E. right now that think the whole thing as stupid as we do.

But the fanaticism we do see if unnerving. I always kind of thought, we have our own nutbars over here, but we're more familiar with them so they're less frightening.

I have no doubt that there are quite a few that aren't fanatics. It's just that the ones that are seem to have the loudest "voice".
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#12

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

I have no doubt that there are quite a few that aren't fanatics. It's just that the ones that are seem to have the loudest "voice".

Isn't that always the way? Anyone who is an extremist, they always scream the loudest. Then everyone thinks there are a great number of them. There isn't really, they're just loud.
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
+1
#13

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Isn't that always the way? Anyone who is an extremist, they always scream the loudest. Then everyone thinks there are a great number of them. There isn't really, they're just loud.

It goes for almost anything. Here's an example. One person watches a television show that "offends" them and it seems that their voice is more important to all the others who weren't offended by it. How does that make sense?
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#14

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

It goes for almost anything. Here's an example. One person watches a television show that "offends" them and it seems that their voice is more important to all the others who weren't offended by it. How does that make sense?

Squeeky wheel gets the grease. May not make sense, but it's as old as time.
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
+2
#15

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Squeeky wheel gets the grease. May not make sense, but it's as old as time.

Too bad that squeaky wheel doesn't get rusted shut!
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#16

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

Too bad that squeaky wheel doesn't get rusted shut!

I wish, but you know another would just pop up to take it's place. The universe is known to bitch slap us like that.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
+5
#17

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
I have a question. Since when is any government required to comment on every incident of religious disrespect? Let's face it, if the White House were to do so Obama wouldn't have time for anything else considering the thousands of times a year that it occurs. This is the usual right wing BS with the usual right wing idiots sagely nodding their heads.
 
Kreskin
+1
#18

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
It's election time, that means time for the rightwing nutters to go on their predictable anti-Presidential religious crusade.
 
earth_as_one
#19

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by skookumchuckView Post

That is the real point that needs be taken. We won't hold our breath though. I have inlaws that still send money to Jimmy Swaggart (he was forgiven by God ya know) but have not heard them advocate violence against those who do not share their beliefs.



'We have the ability to take him (Chavez) out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability,' Robertson said.
USATODAY.com - Pat Robertson calls for assassination of Hugo Chavez


Pastor Charles Worley of Maiden, N.C.'s Providence Road Baptist Church recently told his congregation that lesbians and "queers" should be rounded up, placed in camps with electrified fencing, and left to die.
Worley believes that placing gays in camps will ensure homosexuality dies out since gays "don't reproduce."
North Carolina Preacher Charles Worley Wants Gay People Put in Concentration Camps | Advocate.com
 
BaalsTears
#20

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
What happened to the political cartoonist Molly Norris? She made fun of Mohammed and was forced to change her identity and disappear into oblivion.
 
tay
#21

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Maybe if the Christians who are so offended by this art display get out there and kill a few hundred of each other to get our attention.

But they won't.

And that of course is the difference between the Christians and Islam. Christians are all about the self, Islam is about the whole reilgion and all the people.



The entire video is fascinating and I recommend giving up the hour to watch it.



"The Right Hand of God still mixes politics, religion and money for party and profit. Still covers his tracks in a fog bank of secrecy, complexity, and sleight-of-hand. Still says to his flock, "Trust me."


Moyers & Company Full Show #134: The Resurrection of Ralph Reed on Vimeo
 
DaSleeper
+3
#22

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

I have a question. Since when is any government required to comment on every incident of religious disrespect? Let's face it, if the White House were to do so Obama wouldn't have time for anything else considering the thousands of times a year that it occurs. This is the usual right wing BS with the usual right wing idiots sagely nodding their heads.

Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

It's election time, that means time for the rightwing nutters to go on their predictable anti-Presidential religious crusade.

It's fun to watch the left circle the wagons every time Obama screws-up.........
 
CDNBear
+5
#23

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

It's fun to watch the left circle the wagons every time Obama screws-up.........

Oh come on DaS. He didn't screw up.

Everyone knows selective outrage is all the rage. Obscene attacks on Christianity are trendy, acceptable and besides, all the cool kids are doing it with public funds.
 
Kreskin
+2
#24

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

It's fun to watch the left circle the wagons every time Obama screws-up.........

Screwed up what? Like he didn't drop everything to attemd to a thumper outcry from FOX?
 
CDNBear
+4
#25

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Screwed up what? Like he didn't drop everything to attemd to a thumper outcry from FOX?

I guess yer right. No one rioted.
 
Kreskin
+1
#26

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I guess yer right. No one rioted.

Sean Hannity is always a riot.
 
CDNBear
+2
#27

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Sean Hannity is always a riot.

Not that I disagree or anything, but that really isn't the point.

Muslims offended, riot, White House official position, denounce source of offense.

Christians offend, a little complaining, White House official position, crickets.

Election theatrics, Fox News nuttery, double standards, ineptness, or whatever. It's a pattern.
 
tay
#28

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
In its boldest development in a generation, the Louvre Museum has a new wing dedicated to Islamic art, a nearly $130 million project that comes at a tense time between the West and the Muslim world.

Louvre curators tout their new Islamic Art department, which took 11 years to build and opens to the public on Saturday, as a way to help bridge cultural divides. They say it offers a highbrow and respectful counterpart to the recent unflattering depictions of the Prophet Muhammad in Western media that have sparked protests by many Muslims.

Still, one of the Louvre’s own consultants acknowledged that some Muslims could be “shocked” by three images of Muhammad with his face exposed in the new wing. Many Muslims believe the prophet should not be depicted at all — even in a flattering way — because it might encourage idolatry.

Maury said Muhammad’s face was only covered up in Islamic art starting in the 15th century, when Muslim scholars decided to interpret the veiled figure as a more respectful image
.
The Quran has no direct prohibition against depicting Mohammad, though it does contain verses saying that those who insult him are cursed.


Louvre Museum: Islamic art honored amid cultural clash - trivalleycentral.com: National News
 
Colpy
Conservative
+2
#29

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

I have a question. Since when is any government required to comment on every incident of religious disrespect? Let's face it, if the White House were to do so Obama wouldn't have time for anything else considering the thousands of times a year that it occurs. This is the usual right wing BS with the usual right wing idiots sagely nodding their heads.


Absolutely correct!

Now, if only they had stood up for free speech and avoided denigrating the film and the film makers of the anti-Muslim film in question.

Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

In its boldest development in a generation, the Louvre Museum has a new wing dedicated to Islamic art, a nearly $130 million project that comes at a tense time between the West and the Muslim world.

Louvre curators tout their new Islamic Art department, which took 11 years to build and opens to the public on Saturday, as a way to help bridge cultural divides. They say it offers a highbrow and respectful counterpart to the recent unflattering depictions of the Prophet Muhammad in Western media that have sparked protests by many Muslims.

Still, one of the Louvre’s own consultants acknowledged that some Muslims could be “shocked” by three images of Muhammad with his face exposed in the new wing. Many Muslims believe the prophet should not be depicted at all — even in a flattering way — because it might encourage idolatry.

Maury said Muhammad’s face was only covered up in Islamic art starting in the 15th century, when Muslim scholars decided to interpret the veiled figure as a more respectful image
.
The Quran has no direct prohibition against depicting Mohammad, though it does contain verses saying that those who insult him are cursed.


Louvre Museum: Islamic art honored amid cultural clash - trivalleycentral.com: National News

Yep.

Anyone doubting the beauty of Muslim art just needs to take a look at Spain, and the remnants of Moorish architecture, etc.

Oh, and yes, Islam has been going backwards ever since the 13th century.

And I wonder how long it will be until some idiot detonates himself in the Louvre because of the depiction of their cult hero??
 
petros
+6
#30

Re: White House won't denounce "Piss Christ"

Sep 22nd, 2012
I'd go trash their embassy but by the time I get to Ottawa I'd be more pissed at airlines and people who walk too damn slow.
 

Similar Threads

145
"Christ Meets Bigfoot" Atheist Ads Coming to a Community Near You!
by Spade | Dec 11th, 2010
17
Could Barack Hussein Obama be the "Anti-Christ?"
by Tyr | Feb 12th, 2009
43
Iranian MPs denounce "300"
by darkbeaver | Mar 17th, 2007
9
"DARK" days for the "White"?????house!!
by Ocean Breeze | Nov 1st, 2005
no new posts