Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

mentalfloss

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#1Feb 8th, 2012

Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Iran is capable of hitting U.S. military forces around the world if attacked by the United States, Russia’s Interfax news agency quoted the Iranian ambassador to Moscow as saying on Wednesday.

The United States has imposed sanctions, targeting Iran’s central bank and giving U.S. banks new powers to freeze Iranian government assets, which tighten international measures aimed at forcing the Islamic Republic to scrap sensitive nuclear work.

Interfax said the Iranian ambassador, Seyyed Mahmoud-Reza Sajjadi, had told a news conference in Moscow that the United States would be making a mistake if it carried out a military strike on Iran, although Washington has announced no such plans.

“The Americans know very well what Iran is like and what our potential is,” Sajjadi was quoted as saying. “Iran is in a very good position to deliver retaliatory strikes on America around the world … An attack on Iran would be suicidal for them.”

Iran could attack U.S. forces around the world if provoked, ambassador says | News | National Post

DurkaDurka

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Iran is full of hot air. While they might be able to hit a few US bases throughout the ME, the US response would be ten fold.

mentalfloss

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka

Iran is full of hot air. While they might be able to hit a few US bases throughout the ME, the US response would be ten fold.

Right.

Well, let's hope it doesn't even get to that.

It doesn't help when we are inciting their anger.

Comparing Iran to Nazis not helpful

PoliticalNick

Free Thinker

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

The US needs to go to the library and look up the word "sovereignty". All their threats and bullying only serve to give more nations and groups reason to detest them.

lone wolf

Free Thinker

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Anyone's capable of sneaking in under cover and blowing something up....

Just the Facts

Free Thinker

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

The US needs to go to the library and look up the word "sovereignty". All their threats and bullying only serve to give more nations and groups reason to detest them.

Yeah, starting with all those "Death to Iran" rallies we've been seeing across the U.S. Oh, wait.....

Here's an interesting page I came across today. I don't know what the origin is, could be an Iranian version of WoW for all I know, but still interesting. If anyone is familiar with the language it would be interesting to hear what the nature of this site is.

(English version is on the bottom half of the page)

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mentalfloss

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Signs build that Iran sanctions disrupt food imports

(Reuters) - More evidence emerged of the crippling impact of new sanctions on --, with international traders saying Tehran is having trouble buying rice, cooking oil and other staples to feed its 74 million people weeks before an election.

New U.S. financial sanctions imposed since the beginning of this year to punish Tehran over its nuclear program are playing havoc with Iran's ability to buy imports and receive payment for its oil exports, commodities traders said.

Iran denies that sanctions are causing serious harm to its economy, but Reuters investigations in recent days with commodities traders around the globe show serious disruptions to its imports. That is having a real impact on the streets of Iran, where prices for basic foodstuffs are soaring.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak was in -- on Tuesday, the latest leader of a major Asian oil importing country to visit the Middle East seeking alternative sources of oil as sanctions make it more difficult to import from Iran.

Danish shipping and oil company A.P. Moller-Maersk on Wednesday said it had suspended the transport of new Iranian oil-related cargoes and oil tanker deals due to European Union sanctions.

Traders in Asia told Reuters on Tuesday that Malaysian exporters of palm oil - the source of half of Iran's consumption of a food staple used to make margarine and confectionary - had halted sales to Iran because they could not get paid.

That followed news on Monday that Iran had defaulted on payments for rice from top supplier India, and news last week that Ukrainian shipments of maize had been cut nearly in half.

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DurkaDurka

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

They're a pious bunch, I'm sure Allah will provide for them...

EagleSmack

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

The US needs to go to the library and look up the word "sovereignty". All their threats and bullying only serve to give more nations and groups reason to detest them.

This is hilarious!

Here we have Iran doing all the threatening and Nick goes this route.

Goober

Free Thinker

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

Anyone's capable of sneaking in under cover and blowing something up....

We have Hezbollah and Hamas in Canada - why not in the US. Iran carried out assignations of Iranian dissidents in Germany for a number of years. Any attacks would be minimal and as was mentioned result in more retaliation by the countries attacked.

Just the Facts

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

We have Hezbollah and Hamas in Canada - why not in the US. Iran carried out assignations of Iranian dissidents in Germany for a number of years. Any attacks would be minimal and as was mentioned result in more retaliation by the countries attacked.

Yup, they were already caught trying to kill the Saudi ambassador. CAIR is a Hamas front. There's an organization that's an instrument of the Mullah's (forget the name, think Reza Aslan) Lots of possibilities there.

Edit: NIAC

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Last edited by Just the Facts; Feb 8th, 2012 at 02:41 PM..

L Gilbert

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Jeeez. MF has a new toy with which to make hundreds of redundant threads.

PoliticalNick

Free Thinker

#13

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

This is hilarious!

Here we have Iran doing all the threatening and Nick goes this route.

Face it Eagle....the American government is the biggest bully in the world. If any country doesn't want to play by their rules they exert all political power and use veiled threats of force.

Funniest thing is that while the US is running around looking stupid trying to be the global policeman they are bankrupting their own country and population. Maybe they should get their own house in order.

CDNBear

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

Face it Eagle....the American government is the biggest bully in the world. If any country doesn't want to play by their rules they exert all political power and use veiled threats of force.

Funniest thing is that while the US is running around looking stupid trying to be the global policeman they are bankrupting their own country and population. Maybe they should get their own house in order.

Even funnier is, if they don't react, or intervene, they're heavily criticized for not caring, blah blah blah.

Carry on.

Colpy

Conservative

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Feb 8th, 2012

I gotta put this up again....

If only McCain were President:

Bomb Iran Paul Shanklin - YouTube

Kinda catchy, really.

damngrumpy

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Feb 8th, 2012

Hitler did a lot of positioning and threatening too, and yes there was retaliation for attacks
on Germany. In the end though it was the Germans who got the worst of it. Iran is making
these statements because they are scared as hell that Israel or America is going to attack
them and they can't deliver on their threats. When and if that happens the people opposed
to the regime will again rise up and America would have no choice but to defend them just
the same way as the actions in Libya. Iran is a nation where they have friends but even the
Russians know better than to defend them militarily. China won't either, they don't like the
fundamentalist Muslim states anymore than any other nation.
Countries who feel isolated and under pressure are the first to make outrageous statements
and America knows that.

L Gilbert

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Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

I gotta put this up again....

If only McCain were President:

Bomb Iran Paul Shanklin - YouTube

Kinda catchy, really.

Ah, the simple-minded view; shoot first and ask questions later, yer with us er agin us, if we don't like it, bomb it.

A friend of mine was cruising an industrial site one night when he saw a light where he didn't think one should be. He radioed in and then went to investigate. He came across a silhouette that looked like it had long hair, shabby clothes, and it was holding something. He called out "police" and the silhouette turned around. Fortunately, my friend saw that the object the silhouette was carrying looked an awful lot like the silhouette of a broom so he didn't empty his pistol. It turned out to be the female janitor.

Evidence counts.

lone wolf

Free Thinker

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

I keep thinking of all the ire when the US didn't go into Myanmar

CDNBear

#19

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

I keep thinking of all the ire when the US didn't go into Myanmar

Or Rwanda.

L Gilbert

No Party Affiliation

#20

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Feb 8th, 2012

Good judgement is handy. I can think of a few times when it was stupid for the US to go somewhere.

Ocean Breeze

Free Thinker

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 8th, 2012

It would be more than suicidal ......it would be just plain STUPID.

There is NO evidence of the claims that are bandied about as potential threats to the west.

IF the US WANTS A WAR:

Quote:

The message is clear: even though Iran has a minuscule defense budget, has never attacked anyone, and is essentially a Third World country, it is nevertheless a global menace that must be dealt with by military means if all else fails. Oh yes, and brave little Israel will do the job if President Obama doesn’t have what it takes.
The only problem with all of the above is that the United States intelligence community -- that Iran does not have a nuclear device and has not made the political decision to build one. Even Israeli intelligence agrees. So if you want a war, what do you do when that happens? You shift your narrative and develop a new way of defining the threat. Israel and its friends have consequently initiated a major offensive both back at home and in the United States to heighten the impression that Iran poses a genuine threat to Israel, the United States, and even to world peace in general. And make no mistake about what it entails: this is a major disinformation strategy that involves diplomatic, intelligence, and media resources.

Praxius

Free Thinker

#22

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 9th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka

Iran is full of hot air. While they might be able to hit a few US bases throughout the ME, the US response would be ten fold.

So we'll punch you in the nose, but if you punch us back, we'll shoot you in the face..... self defence I suppose, even though they started it by punching the other guy in the nose.

Maybe the US's response would be 10 fold..... it probably would be.... but since when has that kind of response solved anything or made anything better for the US?

People thought it'd be a cake walk in Afghanistan against a bunch of cave dwellers using 2nd hand WWII weaponry.... Iraq was supposed to be such a breeze that Bush pulled out the "Mission Accomplished" banner a wee bit prematurely.

Iran isn't Afghanistan and Iran isn't Iraq

Maybe Iran is just fluffing up their chest and looking tough.... but I wouldn't poke sticks to try and find out.

Cuz that's all we need now.... to be dragged into yet another unnecessary war.

Quote: Originally Posted by Just the Facts

Yeah, starting with all those "Death to Iran" rallies we've been seeing across the U.S. Oh, wait.....

Chicken and the Egg, which came first?

Why are there so many "Death to the US" rallies around the world? it goes right back to what he just said about sovereignty.

Ocean Breeze

Free Thinker

#23

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Feb 9th, 2012

Good post Praxius. Refreshing to read a voice of reason.

as it stands.......who is doing the provoking??? The US/Isreal. Not defending Iran , but it is constantly being blamed for something that has not even been proven. Just like those phantom WMD in Iraq......The Phantom Nukes in Iran are an excuse for the US/Isreal to badger and provoke Iran. Then , if Iran gets really pissed off and reacts with a small military statement.....the Warloving duo will say they were attacked and justify a major military invasion on that basis.

Just because Iran's leader said some nasties about Israel...... it is up to Isreal to stop whining and just ignore it. But it along with the US keep inflaming the situation with constant threats.

The real threat in this scenario is the US / ISreal. to Iran. They would like Iran to just bow down and aquiesce passively and let the Israel /US walk all over them.

Which nation in its right mind would allow that to happen. This ongoing threat to Iran is beginning to be more stupid/foolish all the time.

It is time the US focussed on its own domestic issues and shelve their threats to Iran. Little wonder hardly any one has respect for the US . That is not the way it used to be. But as is well known......it is the author of its own reputation .... and wants it both ways.

L Gilbert

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#24

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Feb 9th, 2012

Well, I think its premature to leap to conclusions yet, one way or the other. But you folks just go right ahead and choose sides.

EagleSmack

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Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 9th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

Face it Eagle....the American government is the biggest bully in the world. If any country doesn't want to play by their rules they exert all political power and use veiled threats of force.

Funniest thing is that while the US is running around looking stupid trying to be the global policeman they are bankrupting their own country and population. Maybe they should get their own house in order.

You were saying?

At any rate. It is still funny how you choose an article of Iran threatening to say the US is threatening Iran.

Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius

People thought it'd be a cake walk in Afghanistan against a bunch of cave dwellers using 2nd hand WWII weaponry.... Iraq was supposed to be such a breeze that Bush pulled out the "Mission Accomplished" banner a wee bit prematurely.

Oh please. Afghanistan was supposed to be a cake walk? Since when? Even you must have heard about the Soviets in Afghanistan. We were supposed to get creamed there. We didn't.

Yeah second hand WWII weapons were shooting down Soviet MIGs and HINDs. Good grief.

PoliticalNick

Free Thinker

#26

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Feb 9th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

Or Rwanda.

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf

I keep thinking of all the ire when the US didn't go into Myanmar

No natural resources to exploit in those countries. Need I say more?

CDNBear

#27

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 9th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick

No natural resources to exploit in those countries. Need I say more?

Maybe you should Google "Myanmar Natural Resources". But I digress, You should probably send an urgent email to Vanoil, and let them know there are no natural resources in Rwanda.

#juan

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Feb 9th, 2012

I was reading all the replies and I forgot what the topic was: Oh yes:
Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S

I remember when another Arab promised "The Mother of all Battles" and that was a fizzle as well.

Cliffy

Free Thinker

#29

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Feb 9th, 2012

The only reason for sanctions and threats is to drive up the price of oil by created the impression of shortages. All the other rhetoric around this issue is just smoke and mirrors to confuse sheeple so they can be fleeced even more.

EagleSmack

#30

Re: Attack on Iran would be ‘suicidal’ for U.S.: ambassador

Feb 9th, 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

The only reason for sanctions and threats is to drive up the price of oil by created the impression of shortages. All the other rhetoric around this issue is just smoke and mirrors to confuse sheeple so they can be fleeced even more.

The oil companies raise the price when there is a rain storm in the Gulf of Mexico.

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