The Taliban is not America's enemy

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

They became a threat, when they allowed their country to be a base of operations for a multitude of extremist groups.

Why is it a theocratic gov't, and lets not forget how you feel about theocracy and extreme religious types Cliffy, isn't scrutinized like how you scrutinize Christians?

Not likely. If Canada's gov't started supporting terrorist groups, and allowing Canada to be used as a base of operations for terrorist activity. I would likely aid the US in a regime change here.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

Of course there was none so they had to attack otherwise they might lose face because in fact the only "evidence" they had was a false confession by some guy who didn't look anything like bin Laden except he had a long beard.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

The Taliban only controlled a part of Afghanistan.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Like the 90% part?

Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck

Hey! 90% is part.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Yes I suppose it is but we both know Cliff's spin on things.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

Yes, it turns in the opposite direction to yours.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

I was going to post something intelligent in response to CB's mind numbing brain pablum, but Cliffy already did.

FYI: The total territory controlled by all Alliance factions was less than that controlled by the Pakistan backed Taliban. Therefore the Taliban had the most legitimate claim to represent the Afghan people...

Also the Taliban would have had to have told a lot of lies to be less reliable than the Americans. BTW, how's the search for Iraq's WMD stockpiles coming?

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack

Yeah... the Taliban only controlled a part...





Good grief

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

And what has that got to do with the BS reasons the US and the coalition of the stupid invaded Afghanistan?

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

I just want to know why the word of the Taliban, holds more weight than the US.

For some.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave

Because some have an irrational and blind hatred for the US.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

Does Bay of Tonkin mean anything to you? Does the term false flag mean anything to you? Does WMDs mean anything? Does 100,000 dead Iraqis mean anything? Does lying about there being no war in Cambodia? How does knowing about and condemning these things translate to an irrational hate?

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

The Taliban has a tight grip on all communications equipment that OBL was using - they removed it - they knew he was up to another attack. Yet what did they keep on doing. Nothing.



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Over three years and on as many continents, U.S. officials met in public and secret at least 20 times with Taliban representatives to discuss ways the regime could bring suspected terrorist Osama bin Laden to justice

Throughout the years, however, State Department officials refused to soften their demand that bin Laden face trial in the U.S. justice system. It also remained murky whether the Taliban envoys, representing at least one division of the fractious Islamic movement, could actually deliver on their promises.


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According to the BBC, the Taliban later even warned the U.S. that bin Laden was going to launch an attack on American soil. Former Taliban foreign minister Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil said his warnings, issued because of concerns that the U.S. would react by waging war against Afghanistan, had been ignored. A U.S. official did not deny that such warnings were issued, but told BBC rather that it was dismissed because “We were hearing a lot of that kind of stuff”.[4]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

I supported the UN in trying to take them out.

But the US decision was not based on human rights violations, or the reign of terror perpetrated by the Taliban.

As far as I'm concerned, the Taliban was a terrorist group but they restricted their acts of terror to their own people.

I doubt very much it had anything to do with al Quida either.

As for how I feel about Christianity or my scrutiny of them, it has more to do with the inconsistencies in translation and interpretation of the bible and those that use it to justify hatred toward other religions and groups, in other words, the hypocrisy of people like Alley and MHZ. I have nothing against the teaching of Jesus. I do have a problem with those who condemn all those who don't follow their particular brand of belief. All, as far as I can remember, of my comments were aimed at a particular person and what they said and not against the religion in general. If it was a general remark about crimes against humanity that Christians have perpetrated t was in response to finger pointing at Muslims. On that count I feel they are equally guilty. It really has nothing to do with either religion, just those who use the religion to hate and perpetrate acts of hate.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

I was going to post something intelligent in response to CB's mind numbing brain pablum, but Cliffy already did.

Therefore the Taliban had the most legitimate claim to represent the Afghan people...

Also the Taliban would have had to have told a lot of lies to be less reliable than the Americans.

BTW, how's the search for Iraq's WMD stockpiles coming?