Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
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#2Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
Wow! I was with them until they said Islamaphobe. That was when I realized it was Gopher.
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Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
Still nothing like what our government inflicted on the Japanese during WWll
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#4 Top Rated PostRe: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
Well the Japanese did all sorts of nice things to the people of the Philippines and also the Chinese.
How come we don't remind them of that every year?
How come we don't remind them of that every year?
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Well the Japanese did all sorts of nice things to the people of the Philippines and also the Chinese.
How come we don't remind them of that every year?
That's different, it was done to someone other than the americans.
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#6Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Oh the Japanese executed a lot of American airmen rather than send them to POW Camps. Still they aren't reminded of that.That's different, it was done to someone other than the americans.
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#7Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Oh the Japanese executed a lot of American airmen rather than send them to POW Camps. Still they aren't reminded of that.
and yet, 10 years later, ALL Muslims are reminded, and blamed, for what a few demented nut cases did to america.
Free Thinker
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#8Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Only by some - Yet you class many as having this wacked opinion.and yet, 10 years later, ALL Muslims are reminded, and blamed, for what a few demented nut cases did to america.
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#9Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
and yet, 10 years later, ALL Muslims are reminded, and blamed, for what a few demented nut cases did to america.
Bullsh!t. I was over there on 9/11. The United States accommodates all religions. This drum that is pounded about a mass of intolerance is a straw man. The sweeping statement of intolerance that indicts Americans is far more ignorant than that of any rednecks, which by the way, exist in every country.
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#10Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
Sorry, disagree whole heartedly. It's also not just the u.s. that is Islamophobic and intolerant. Canada is as much to blame as is half of europe. You go ahead and keep believing that the western world has clean hands in all of this.
I imagine that the gentleman that wrote this article is full of shyte also and really is unjustified in the way he feels.
I imagine that the gentleman that wrote this article is full of shyte also and really is unjustified in the way he feels.
Free Thinker
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#11Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Would you agree or disagree that the people that rule these countries have also hijacked the religion.Sorry, disagree whole heartedly. It's also not just the u.s. that is Islamophobic and intolerant. Canada is as much to blame as is half of europe. You go ahead and keep believing that the western world has clean hands in all of this.
I imagine that the gentleman that wrote this article is full of shyte also and really is unjustified in the way he feels.
Liberal
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Bullsh!t. I was over there on 9/11. The United States accommodates all religions. This drum that is pounded about a mass of intolerance is a straw man. The sweeping statement of intolerance that indicts Americans is far more ignorant than that of any rednecks, which by the way, exist in every country.
I think on this forum alone we have 3-4 members that constantly paint all Muslims as bad.
Free Thinker
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
Care to name those Posters - Or is this invisibleI think on this forum alone we have 3-4 members that constantly paint all Muslims as bad.
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#14Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
I guess the 1600% increase in hate crimes against Muslims following the 9/11 attacks must have simply been a statistical anomaly...No Party Affiliation
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#15Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
Interesting to say the least. I have said its time to relegate this sad episode to history.
Let me try to clear up a few other things first though. The reason we don't shove things
in the face of the Japanese and Chinese, is because we struck the first blow, to our
fellow citizens of those two countries. The Chinese were subjected to head taxes and
legislative restrictions designed to keep them reaching their full potential. In addition
some Japanese citizens were fighting for Canada and indeed America, while their relations
were being interned in prison camps and their property and bank accounts stolen
Wouldn't want the children of today hear about our ethnic cleansing episode would we?
As for the Muslims, I admit I have been critical only because I think many in that Community
have not done enough to distance themselves from those who committed these vile acts.
We need to see the Muslim Clerics interact with the rest of their countrymen. They must
advocate for peace and renounce violence with more vigor. On the other hand, the rest of us
must not continue to hold resentment on an entire community for what some radicals have
done. When we view all those people with suspicion and resentment, if not outright hostility
we achieve the opposite goals we seek. If people are marginalized they naturally close ranks
and embrace their faith with more vigor as there is no where else to turn.
Because we grieve for those who died, it does not give us licence to indiscriminately hate others.
Unfortunately we have expressed negative attitudes against all those who survived, while the
people we are angry with are dead and can not feel our anger. Would you spank a small child
because he was the brother of a child that misbehaved?
Today I heard a radio interview on the way home from a Legion Meeting. Interviewed, was a woman
who lost her son in 9/11 and two years after the even she met one of the mothers of the radical
extremists. She found out the mother of the terrorist, was just as hurt as she was and in fact
apologized for the actions of her son. She also made it clear she would never condone such a
terrible act, of terror and violence.
Again I say its time to put this in the historical vault and someday we can look at it as a historical
piece minus the hostility, the hatred, the misinformation we all spread around the world. perhaps
with the monument opened, we can now say goodbye and get on with life. There is enough over
all sadness to go round.
Let me try to clear up a few other things first though. The reason we don't shove things
in the face of the Japanese and Chinese, is because we struck the first blow, to our
fellow citizens of those two countries. The Chinese were subjected to head taxes and
legislative restrictions designed to keep them reaching their full potential. In addition
some Japanese citizens were fighting for Canada and indeed America, while their relations
were being interned in prison camps and their property and bank accounts stolen
Wouldn't want the children of today hear about our ethnic cleansing episode would we?
As for the Muslims, I admit I have been critical only because I think many in that Community
have not done enough to distance themselves from those who committed these vile acts.
We need to see the Muslim Clerics interact with the rest of their countrymen. They must
advocate for peace and renounce violence with more vigor. On the other hand, the rest of us
must not continue to hold resentment on an entire community for what some radicals have
done. When we view all those people with suspicion and resentment, if not outright hostility
we achieve the opposite goals we seek. If people are marginalized they naturally close ranks
and embrace their faith with more vigor as there is no where else to turn.
Because we grieve for those who died, it does not give us licence to indiscriminately hate others.
Unfortunately we have expressed negative attitudes against all those who survived, while the
people we are angry with are dead and can not feel our anger. Would you spank a small child
because he was the brother of a child that misbehaved?
Today I heard a radio interview on the way home from a Legion Meeting. Interviewed, was a woman
who lost her son in 9/11 and two years after the even she met one of the mothers of the radical
extremists. She found out the mother of the terrorist, was just as hurt as she was and in fact
apologized for the actions of her son. She also made it clear she would never condone such a
terrible act, of terror and violence.
Again I say its time to put this in the historical vault and someday we can look at it as a historical
piece minus the hostility, the hatred, the misinformation we all spread around the world. perhaps
with the monument opened, we can now say goodbye and get on with life. There is enough over
all sadness to go round.
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#16Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom
I wonder how that stacks up against the anti-semites?I think on this forum alone we have 3-4 members that constantly paint all Muslims as bad.
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#17Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
I wonder how that stacks up against the anti-semites?
does that make a difference? Is it a matter of trying to balance things out? If there are 5 or 6 brainless twats that hate the Jews then you need the same number hating the Muslims?
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#18Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy
It is history... but we won't forget it.Interesting to say the least. I have said its time to relegate this sad episode to history.
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
does that make a difference? Is it a matter of trying to balance things out? If there are 5 or 6 brainless twats that hate the Jews then you need the same number hating the Muslims?
Who would you rate here on Can Con as hating Muslims?
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#20Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Who would you rate here on Can Con as hating Muslims?
What does it matter? Those that you rate as being "Jew haters" deny being the same. The same as anyone that might be considered a Muslim hater.
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Well, I have been accused of being Islamophobic. Would you consider that a fair assessment?What does it matter? Those that you rate as being "Jew haters" deny being the same. The same as anyone that might be considered a Muslim hater.
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Well, I have been accused of being Islamophobic. Would you consider that a fair assessment?
At times, yes you have.
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Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
So criticism of Islam is Islamophobic?
#24
Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011
depends on the criticism. Bout the same as criticism of america is anti-american.
Now, as to the article, are you saying that this gentleman is wrong in how he feels and sees things?
Now, as to the article, are you saying that this gentleman is wrong in how he feels and sees things?
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#25Re: Sept. 11 was the day my religion was hijacked
Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
No, what I am saying is that he loses me mid-way when he reverts from activist to victim. There is a lot wrong with Islam and this fellow identifies a small segment of what is wrong (19 Hijackers-Terror Organization) Then he reverts to the old Islamophobe bit which quite frankly I find to be a cop out. I have seen this card thrown out as a defense mechanism post 911, post terror attacks in the UK, post massacre at the school in Georgia. Western Muslims are not under attack, but the writer of this article would have had my fullest support if he had placed the blame squarely with those who are defaming his religion with their warped interpretation.depends on the criticism. Bout the same as criticism of america is anti-american.
Now, as to the article, are you saying that this gentleman is wrong in how he feels and sees things?
Modern Muslims like Tarek Fatah have spoke loud and clear about the morons who are hijacking their faith and need not toss out a race card. In Fatah case he is highly respected for his courage and determination to bring change.
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Sep 11th, 2011
didn't read it all eh..... that's fine.
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Sep 11th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Why would you think that, because I didn't mention that Tranny Ghoul Ann Coulter?didn't read it all eh..... that's fine.
She's a bobble head, always has been.
Conservative
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Sep 12th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Ahhh....I kinda like her.....she leaves the lefties foaming at the mouth......and she is brilliant.Why would you think that, because I didn't mention that Tranny Ghoul Ann Coulter?
She's a bobble head, always has been.
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
The most idiotic post in a series Gerry has posted in celebration of 9-11.Sorry, disagree whole heartedly. It's also not just the u.s. that is Islamophobic and intolerant. Canada is as much to blame as is half of europe. You go ahead and keep believing that the western world has clean hands in all of this.
I imagine that the gentleman that wrote this article is full of shyte also and really is unjustified in the way he feels.
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Conservative
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Sep 12th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
I'd love a link for THAT claim!..........and 1600 percent of what number????
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