Bell scams customers with inflated usage billing

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Bell scams customers with inflated usage billing
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After a massive online campaign against Bell and its tactic of using regulator CRTC to dictate competitors' pricing models, media outlets across the country are reporting Bell's inflated data usage charges.

This is the first time mainstream media has actually bothered reporting on the issue of ISPs like Bell Internet, formerly Sympatico, charging much more for bits and bytes than customers actually use. This is just yet another blow to Bell Canada's PR mess which started in January 2011 after the CRTC blinding sided with it.

A supposed 'glitch' in Bell's metering software has been blamed for the over-charges, though many across Internet forums have complained about being nickled and dimed for bandwidth they never actually used for a while now with both Bell and Rogers broadband services.

This comes as another jab against Bell during a national outrage against the Usage Based Billing (UBB) model which gives service providers permission to charge over-usage of $1.00 - $5.00 per GB, most often a 2,000% to 20,000% inflation above market rates when estimated actual bandwidth costs of around $0.01 to $0.03 per GB and a maximum of $0.10 in more rural areas.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission recently ruled that Bell Canada and other large providers in the country were allowed to dictate the pricing schemes of smaller, independent providers across the country. The most vocal of the smaller ISPs is Teksavvy, an Ontario-based service provider offering its users the option of unlimited Internet connectivity for a reasonable price.

The Canadian public rightfully view the changes in pricing as nothing less than a greedy money-grab, rightfully so because bandwidth cannot be compared to a tangible asset like water or electricity; the capacity exists and that's exactly what customers are paying for. Moreover, the networks aren't completely owned by the major providers in a sense, since taxpayers paid for the large majority of these through direct taxes or kickbacks.

Though the headline might be a bit quick to jump the gun, we feel that such high markups for such a cheap service like bandwidth ought to be called a scam: Making money without providing a real service.

The second scandal is the actual reason for such extraordinary charges for consumer Internet connections. Each of the large providers in Canada are seeing their business model in other media assets fall because of cheaper alternatives online such as Netflix, CTV and CBC streaming and even video sharing services like YouTube.

Canadians have been increasingly more tech savvy by adopting other, legal means of accessing commercial-free movie and television services online.

Bell currently sells its basic Internet package as a 5 Megabit-per-second service with a maximum monthly usage of 25 Gigabytes. Put into perspective, this would allow customers to use their 5 Megabit connection for a maximum of 56.8 hours or just over 2 days per month without paying extra bandwidth charges.

Bell Canada currently only provisions a 0.25 Megabit-per-second connection to customers so nobody is actually technically receiving the 5 Megabit connection they pay so much for.

Following an online petition to stop Usage Based Billing, Western-Canadian cable provider Shaw Communications promised to delay their implementation of UBB and will provide customers with a forum to input their feelings over the next 2 months. No other provider has made such a move.


Original Article: http://www.canadiancontent.net/commtr/bell-scams-customers-inflated-usage-billing_1060.html
 

Andem

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It's really ridiculous that after all of this media attention, Bell is under yet another magnifying glass having their true business practices revealed.
 

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Thanks for this article. I think for anyone to choose a side in this debate, they MUST understand why "data usage" is NOT the same as "bandwidth". Gigabytes have no cost/value in this context. The ISPs push that concept because it's the only measurable flow they can use against us in this scam.

Bandwidth is a speed, NOT a volume of data. No customer can exceed the speed of the connection they paid for. If Bell sells a 5mbps connection, Bell is accepting the responsibility of providing that 5mbps for the month. If Bell oversells, it is NOT the responsibility of the consumer. How DARE they demonize those who make more than a few hours use of the connection.

Gigabytes should not be monetized! With a fixed rate infrastructure, the more gigabytes are transmitted, the lower the perceived "cost/gig". It collapses under its own logic, despite the spin put on it by ISPs.

The amount downloaded in a month does not relate to congestion. This is simply creating a revenue stream by unfairly and unjustifiably taxing people's growing internet habits, because it threatens their own content assets.

The utility comparison to water/electricity is flawed (for the simple reason that data is neither produced nor consumed).

I think the suitable analogy is Public Transit. Customers buy a monthly metropass. Some use it more frequently than others. Obviously some times of day are more congested (peak times). But the frequent riders would be using the service during uncongested times too. The frequent rider is riding an existing scheduled vehicle (not "hogging" or negatively impacting anyone else's ability to ride).

UBB is akin to the transit company deciding that halfway through the month, they would charge the more frequent riders per kilometre travelled.

If the transit company is concerned with congestion at peak times, why would the blame lie with frequent riders? Those riders simply provide a consistent baseline showing where support is needed.

It's time to nationalize the last mile, if Bell is only interested in exploiting its ownership at a ludicrous cost to Canadians.
 

Andem

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I think you pretty much further legitimized the points made in the article, Reprobus. Welcome to CC!
 

Unforgiven

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Bell and Rogers have always been predatory where there customers are concerned. Where else are you going to go?
Even if you move to a smaller company, you're still going to use Bell or Rogers network. Now maybe Telus is a player but not much of an alternative as they play the same game now.
 

Reprobus

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Thanks Andem! And no, petros, no parking tickets. Because in my analogy, you don't have a car! Bell Transit is the only choice you have for travel!
 

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Bell and Rogers have always been predatory where there customers are concerned. Where else are you going to go?
Even if you move to a smaller company, you're still going to use Bell or Rogers network. Now maybe Telus is a player but not much of an alternative as they play the same game now.
telus is a piggyback network
 

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Thank you for writing this article, and I am completely against UBB, however I believe you have your numbers mixed up:

1) A 25GB cap at 5Mbps would run out in a little over 11 hours, not 57 hours.
25GB=25000MB
5Mbps=0.625MB/s
25000MB / 0.625MB/s=40000seconds or 11-hours




2) "Bell Canada currently only provisions a 0.25 Megabit-per-second connection to customers"


There would be outrage is there was the case. 0.25Mbps=31.25KB/s which is only slightly faster than dial-up internet.
 

karrie

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I just find it unbelievable that with the highest cell rates in the world, they had the nerve to go ask for the ability to charge even more.
 

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Through my own personal experience with Bell Aliant in Halifax and other areas of Nova Scotia, I was supposed to be getting a 5Mbps speed as well, but my average download speed was almost always around 260kbps...... I think there was perhaps one or two days in the span of 6 years that it reached around 512kbps for about 10 minutes.... but that was it.

What was the explanation to me?

I was using it around the busy times when other users were using their internet service, which reduced the amount of bandwidth I could access.

Bullsh*t on that..... it was capped and I was being ripped off for a service I never got...... even between 3am-6am the speed was the same..... and if that wonderful 5mbps was being shared with other clients of Bell Aliant, then they shouldn't be advertising they can provide that amount of speed to their clients in the first place becuase it would always be impossible to ever reach that speed unless you were their only client accessing it at the time.

Or perhaps they should have clearly advertised to their customers that it was just 5Mbps shared amongst everyone.

Then again, maybe I just didn't understand what they were explaining to me...... I doubt it.
 

Andem

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I was using it around the busy times when other users were using their internet service, which reduced the amount of bandwidth I could access.

I downloaded the newest version of AutoCAD for my brothers neighbour upstairs via BitTorrent, which she legally owned (for you anti-Torrent idiots on this board) and it took days. There, a torrent would transfer no more than up to 60 KB/s, obviously because of traffic shaping. I tried downloading the same file here in Germany and after around 5 minutes I got a transfer rate of 3.1 MB/s.

It's absolutely ridiculous that in Canada, encrypted traffic is limited because EACH packet is inspected. (For those that don't understand the concept, everything you do on the net is basically scanned and if Bell, Rogers or Shaw doesn't think its worthy of using the network, they will stop it or slow it down.)

Just to add: Oh yeah, it's against EU privacy laws here in countries like Germany for ISPs to decide what is worthy of Internet usage and what isn't.
 

Praxius

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....... It's absolutely ridiculous that in Canada, encrypted traffic is limited because EACH packet is inspected. (For those that don't understand the concept, everything you do on the net is basically scanned and if Bell, Rogers or Shaw doesn't think its worthy of using the network, they will stop it or slow it down.)

Just to add: Oh yeah, it's against EU privacy laws here in countries like Germany for ISPs to decide what is worthy of Internet usage and what isn't.

Interesting that my porn came through quick as a wink...... kinda shows where their priorities are :lol:
 

Andem

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Thank you for writing this article, and I am completely against UBB, however I believe you have your numbers mixed up:

1) A 25GB cap at 5Mbps would run out in a little over 11 hours, not 57 hours.
25GB=25000MB
5Mbps=0.625MB/s
25000MB / 0.625MB/s=40000seconds or 11-hours


2) "Bell Canada currently only provisions a 0.25 Megabit-per-second connection to customers"

There would be outrage is there was the case. 0.25Mbps=31.25KB/s which is only slightly faster than dial-up internet.

Sorry, I fixed this. I meant 256KB/s which is 0.25 MB/s approximately.

25 GB = 204800 Mb. 204800 / 60 into minutes = 34.13333~ / 60 into hours = 56.89. So it would take 56.89 days to use up the supposed 5Mbit connection. Please note bits versus Bytes. I hope I'm not wrong on this, but please let me know and I'll update the article. Cheers.

Interesting that my porn came through quick as a wink...... kinda shows where their priorities are :lol:
Prax, like you, I'm also not in Canada... where did you hget fast pr0n???!!! PM me!
 

Andem

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I have Bell Aliant, and the last time I checked, I was getting 22MBPs


The article mainly focuses on the standard 5 Mbps connection offered by Bell Canada with a bitcap of 25GB/month and what they've overcharged customers these past month and even perhaps for a long time. While it isn't exactly what you might have, these new rules and the possible fraud commited by Bell Canada might also affect you! Let us know your experiences with Bell Aliant.
 

Praxius

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Prax, like you, I'm also not in Canada... where did you hget fast pr0n???!!! PM me!

It was the Maritimes.... everybody knows us Maritimers are unemployed bums with nothing else to do but drink beer, smoke pot and watch porn...... even the ISP's know this. It's the only thing that gets us through the days. :lol:

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It's the only thing that keeps our bitter attitudes in check, otherwise, we'd explode and pull a violent revolution on the country.
 

Bar Sinister

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Still waiting for so called "high speed" where I live. Apparently rural customers living ten minutes from a major urban centre are not worth considering by the likes of Bell, Rogers, etc.. The private sector in Canada has completely failed to deliver reasonably priced and reasonable speed internet service. That really should not rank as a surprise. When was the last time any private owned utility really showed that it gave a dam about any of its customers?