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March 22nd, 2007, 02:17 PM
Hi Guys,
I was curious as to how many of us here have migrated to vista or , are planning to move to vista ?
If they could tell what version they chose and why ? What their existing operating system could not do that vista does.
Poll Results :
allen_p nay
durkadurka aye
hermanntrude nay
snowles nay
westmanguy aye
mikeydb aye
niflmir aye
eh1eh nay
Toro nay
Hi Guys,
I was curious as to how many of us here have migrated to vista or , are planning to move to vista ?
If they could tell what version they chose and why ? What their existing operating system could not do that vista does.
Poll Results :
allen_p nay
durkadurka aye
hermanntrude nay
snowles nay
westmanguy aye
mikeydb aye
niflmir aye
eh1eh nay
Toro nay
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM
there's already been a couple of threads on this. try searching for them because there's good advice in them. Generally I think the opinion is against it
there's already been a couple of threads on this. try searching for them because there's good advice in them. Generally I think the opinion is against it
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:30 PM
I wouldnt usually object but there's a lot already written for you to read. i learned a lot from our local PC whizzes. seriously just look at the bottom of this page and you'll see 3 threads on vista
I wouldnt usually object but there's a lot already written for you to read. i learned a lot from our local PC whizzes. seriously just look at the bottom of this page and you'll see 3 threads on vista
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:39 PM
I built a new PC about a month with Vista Home Preumium. Previousl y I was running Windows XP SP2.
I chose home premium because it has the features I want and it was cheap compared to Ultimate/Business versions. The main reason I bought Vista was because of the Directx10 support, which will not be available on older versions of windows.
I built a new PC about a month with Vista Home Preumium. Previousl y I was running Windows XP SP2.
I chose home premium because it has the features I want and it was cheap compared to Ultimate/Business versions. The main reason I bought Vista was because of the Directx10 support, which will not be available on older versions of windows.
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:40 PM
all those threads talk about why people like or dislike vista. I remember reading them when they were written.
I can't delete anything, i'm not a mod, i'm just giving you advice, cos many people here won't want to re-write their opinions just for you
all those threads talk about why people like or dislike vista. I remember reading them when they were written.
I can't delete anything, i'm not a mod, i'm just giving you advice, cos many people here won't want to re-write their opinions just for you
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:43 PM
people who are interested might voice their opinion - others wont even care reading it.
@DurkaDurka
So we have one vote for Vista
@ me
I did try Vista ultimate - I am impressed - But I still see no reason to shift to Vista - Reason : Vista is pricey.
people who are interested might voice their opinion - others wont even care reading it.
@DurkaDurka
So we have one vote for Vista
@ me
I did try Vista ultimate - I am impressed - But I still see no reason to shift to Vista - Reason : Vista is pricey.
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:47 PM
The pricing all depends on which version you buy. I picked up an OEM version of Home Premium for around $130.00, which I considered to be a fair deal compared to a retail version for $250.
I'm a sucker for new technologies, I remember downloading an installing Windows ME right when it came out... that was a mistake. That OS was pure turd. lol
The pricing all depends on which version you buy. I picked up an OEM version of Home Premium for around $130.00, which I considered to be a fair deal compared to a retail version for $250.
I'm a sucker for new technologies, I remember downloading an installing Windows ME right when it came out... that was a mistake. That OS was pure turd. lol
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:48 PM
ok well based on the stuff i read in the other threads, my vote goes for a no
ok well based on the stuff i read in the other threads, my vote goes for a no
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March 22nd, 2007, 02:55 PM
@ durkadurka
indeed - With windows Me - there were a few glitches. But considering that Vista is completely rewritten - That ptobably means newer problems/Viruses of different kind.exploits of different kind. Most important of all - piracy and market impression - That too in Asia Pacific Markets where people buy pirated softwares - With Vista Piracy is issue - If you patch(Existing patches are infected - I did check out
- not that I use Vista now) you get your information flowing. Considering a few other things - in my opinion Businesses may go in for Vista for Bitlocker - but thats the only feature I see as of now.
@hermanntrude
Thank you for letting us know what you think
@ durkadurka
indeed - With windows Me - there were a few glitches. But considering that Vista is completely rewritten - That ptobably means newer problems/Viruses of different kind.exploits of different kind. Most important of all - piracy and market impression - That too in Asia Pacific Markets where people buy pirated softwares - With Vista Piracy is issue - If you patch(Existing patches are infected - I did check out
- not that I use Vista now) you get your information flowing. Considering a few other things - in my opinion Businesses may go in for Vista for Bitlocker - but thats the only feature I see as of now.@hermanntrude
Thank you for letting us know what you think
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March 22nd, 2007, 03:05 PM
Microsoft now attaches Windows Genuine Advantage to all their properties it seems, causing quite a bit of frustration for casual piraters. I have only seen one solution for activating a pirated Vista and it involved installing a local activation server via VMWare image and activating it that way. I don't have the time or patience for that crap, so I just buy legit Microsoft products now.
Bitlocker sounds like an interesting tool, I wonder what kind of performance hit you take from having your whole windows volume encrypted though? For a standard business user, it shouldn't really matter I guess.
Microsoft now attaches Windows Genuine Advantage to all their properties it seems, causing quite a bit of frustration for casual piraters. I have only seen one solution for activating a pirated Vista and it involved installing a local activation server via VMWare image and activating it that way. I don't have the time or patience for that crap, so I just buy legit Microsoft products now.
Bitlocker sounds like an interesting tool, I wonder what kind of performance hit you take from having your whole windows volume encrypted though? For a standard business user, it shouldn't really matter I guess.
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March 22nd, 2007, 03:23 PM
all of the DRM built into Vista gets a big fat thumbs down from me. So until the whiz kids on the Internet can crack it long-term, I'll be staying away from Vista.
I think that it's a disgrace that software that's necessary for the computer to operate costs so much, especially when it is included for free with a $500 CPU. The fact that XP, afer half a decade and numerous holes, has barely (if it all) dropped in price over its lifespan; it is pretty indicative on Microsoft's view of the customer.
My next computer will be a Mac that can dual-boot both Mac OS (for me) and Windows XP Pro (for my wife).
all of the DRM built into Vista gets a big fat thumbs down from me. So until the whiz kids on the Internet can crack it long-term, I'll be staying away from Vista.
I think that it's a disgrace that software that's necessary for the computer to operate costs so much, especially when it is included for free with a $500 CPU. The fact that XP, afer half a decade and numerous holes, has barely (if it all) dropped in price over its lifespan; it is pretty indicative on Microsoft's view of the customer.
My next computer will be a Mac that can dual-boot both Mac OS (for me) and Windows XP Pro (for my wife).
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March 22nd, 2007, 03:30 PM
Quoting snowles
There actually isn't a whole lot more DRM built into Windows other then support for Blu-Ray & HD-DVD. I am able to listen to mucic, watch movies, play games as I do in windows xp, regardless of the media being ripped, pirated, cracked etc.
all of the DRM built into Vista gets a big fat thumbs down from me. So until the whiz kids on the Internet can crack it long-term, I'll be staying away from Vista.
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March 22nd, 2007, 03:52 PM
Perhaps I should clarify: I am against DRM completely, and I think it's a large invasion to have open access to my computer just to 'check around' and make sure everything is cool, and give me no choice to disable them. I also don't like how you are presumed guilty with things like Windows Genuine.
To me, the interface seems completely retread from OSX, from the widgets to the cascading to the GUI, which is already a few years old. Considering how many problems and security holes are already being trotted out with Vista, it will be some time before it catches up to the older Mac technology; however, the new Mac OS should reset the superior gap that exists between the two this summer.
Vista also uses an absolutely monsterous amount of resources, processor and hard drive space. 15 Gigs of hard drive? From some of the lower-end computers we tested it on in the store, which were brand new and more than met the minimum requirements, the results were very, very poor; it was slower than molasses, and quite unstable. Despite their 'minimum' claims, you pretty much have to have a dual-core, 256mB video card, 2 gigs of RAM and a buttload of hard drive space for it to run even reasonably well.
There's also some additional criticism here, which I agree fully with.
I'm interested Durka, what specs are on the computer you're running it on? Just curious for comparison's sake.
Perhaps I should clarify: I am against DRM completely, and I think it's a large invasion to have open access to my computer just to 'check around' and make sure everything is cool, and give me no choice to disable them. I also don't like how you are presumed guilty with things like Windows Genuine.
To me, the interface seems completely retread from OSX, from the widgets to the cascading to the GUI, which is already a few years old. Considering how many problems and security holes are already being trotted out with Vista, it will be some time before it catches up to the older Mac technology; however, the new Mac OS should reset the superior gap that exists between the two this summer.
Vista also uses an absolutely monsterous amount of resources, processor and hard drive space. 15 Gigs of hard drive? From some of the lower-end computers we tested it on in the store, which were brand new and more than met the minimum requirements, the results were very, very poor; it was slower than molasses, and quite unstable. Despite their 'minimum' claims, you pretty much have to have a dual-core, 256mB video card, 2 gigs of RAM and a buttload of hard drive space for it to run even reasonably well.
There's also some additional criticism here, which I agree fully with.
I'm interested Durka, what specs are on the computer you're running it on? Just curious for comparison's sake.
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March 22nd, 2007, 03:54 PM
Quoting
that's shocking. microsoft was always bad but this seems worse than normal.
Despite their 'minimum' claims, you pretty much have to have a dual-core, 256mB video card, 2 gigs of RAM and a buttload of hard drive space for it to run even reasonably well.
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March 22nd, 2007, 05:21 PM
yup,
Bitlocker - It does slow down a few things - But improved disk caching and alorithms should not be a major issue - But I doubt what happens when you play Movie files / Photoshop Files which are simply too big. And considering that a Normal consultant - would loose entire data should he loose key - sounds scary though.
apart from that : Vista does still lacks a few things like support for wireless USB ( dont miskate it for wireless adapter , do wikipedia on that),
Apart from that seeing shiny new code its good that they already have fixed a date for Service pack
DRM - Its crap - and sure interface is cross between Apple OS X and Sun's Desktop looking glass.
In short its brand new code - done to lift off features from other OS'es. Had other OS'es done same - Microsoft would have sued em.
yup,
Bitlocker - It does slow down a few things - But improved disk caching and alorithms should not be a major issue - But I doubt what happens when you play Movie files / Photoshop Files which are simply too big. And considering that a Normal consultant - would loose entire data should he loose key - sounds scary though.
apart from that : Vista does still lacks a few things like support for wireless USB ( dont miskate it for wireless adapter , do wikipedia on that),
Apart from that seeing shiny new code its good that they already have fixed a date for Service pack
DRM - Its crap - and sure interface is cross between Apple OS X and Sun's Desktop looking glass.
In short its brand new code - done to lift off features from other OS'es. Had other OS'es done same - Microsoft would have sued em.
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March 23rd, 2007, 08:14 AM
The new Aero interface for windows doesn't do much for me, I usually just disable the eye candy crap.
The one thing I do like about Vista though is the improved search. It works a hell of a lot better then the one built into XP. The new search aslo doubles as a "run" box more or less. Instead of browsing through the programs list, I launch most programs from the search bar.
I am running Vista on my home built pc. Intell Core 2 6400@3.2ghz, 8800GTS 640mb, 2gb of DDR2 800, and a terabyte of hard drive space.
Quoting snowles
I am no fan of DRM either, I personally think DRM is a total insult to consumers.
Perhaps I should clarify: I am against DRM completely, and I think it's a large invasion to have open access to my computer just to 'check around' and make sure everything is cool, and give me no choice to disable them. I also don't like how you are presumed guilty with things like Windows Genuine.
To me, the interface seems completely retread from OSX, from the widgets to the cascading to the GUI, which is already a few years old. Considering how many problems and security holes are already being trotted out with Vista, it will be some time before it catches up to the older Mac technology; however, the new Mac OS should reset the superior gap that exists between the two this summer.
Vista also uses an absolutely monsterous amount of resources, processor and hard drive space. 15 Gigs of hard drive? From some of the lower-end computers we tested it on in the store, which were brand new and more than met the minimum requirements, the results were very, very poor; it was slower than molasses, and quite unstable. Despite their 'minimum' claims, you pretty much have to have a dual-core, 256mB video card, 2 gigs of RAM and a buttload of hard drive space for it to run even reasonably well.
There's also some additional criticism here, which I agree fully with.
I'm interested Durka, what specs are on the computer you're running it on? Just curious for comparison's sake.
To me, the interface seems completely retread from OSX, from the widgets to the cascading to the GUI, which is already a few years old. Considering how many problems and security holes are already being trotted out with Vista, it will be some time before it catches up to the older Mac technology; however, the new Mac OS should reset the superior gap that exists between the two this summer.
Vista also uses an absolutely monsterous amount of resources, processor and hard drive space. 15 Gigs of hard drive? From some of the lower-end computers we tested it on in the store, which were brand new and more than met the minimum requirements, the results were very, very poor; it was slower than molasses, and quite unstable. Despite their 'minimum' claims, you pretty much have to have a dual-core, 256mB video card, 2 gigs of RAM and a buttload of hard drive space for it to run even reasonably well.
There's also some additional criticism here, which I agree fully with.
I'm interested Durka, what specs are on the computer you're running it on? Just curious for comparison's sake.
The new Aero interface for windows doesn't do much for me, I usually just disable the eye candy crap.
The one thing I do like about Vista though is the improved search. It works a hell of a lot better then the one built into XP. The new search aslo doubles as a "run" box more or less. Instead of browsing through the programs list, I launch most programs from the search bar.
I am running Vista on my home built pc. Intell Core 2 6400@3.2ghz, 8800GTS 640mb, 2gb of DDR2 800, and a terabyte of hard drive space.
