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March 31st, 2008, 03:57 PM
[quote=#juan;940146]Vancouver is one of those teams that is about four good players short of being a good team. If everyone plays well, they look pretty good...Like last night.. Problem is, that if everyone doesn't play at their best, we blow a two goal lead and lose by three goals......Like we did a couple nights ago.
That's right, there are players on the team who can come out and make a difference, but
you never know when that will happen, and I really like pettinger, great skater, and now
he is settling in and making a difference in a positive way, hope they keep him.
Naslund is still a good player but I think he's getting burned out from carrying the team around on his back.
I hope they keep naslund, but I would like to see the sedins traded, they could be
extremely good on an eastern team, where it is more open and not so defensive, and
we could get something back that we really need.
I wonder if they will go after Hossa after July 1, because I'm sure pittsburg won't be
able to keep him, because of money, but we will have the freed up money to pay him,
without giving up any players. He is a very talented player and big and strong, and I
can see him playing with raymond and naslund, could be a great line.
[quote=#juan;940146]Vancouver is one of those teams that is about four good players short of being a good team. If everyone plays well, they look pretty good...Like last night.. Problem is, that if everyone doesn't play at their best, we blow a two goal lead and lose by three goals......Like we did a couple nights ago.
That's right, there are players on the team who can come out and make a difference, but
you never know when that will happen, and I really like pettinger, great skater, and now
he is settling in and making a difference in a positive way, hope they keep him.
Naslund is still a good player but I think he's getting burned out from carrying the team around on his back.
I hope they keep naslund, but I would like to see the sedins traded, they could be
extremely good on an eastern team, where it is more open and not so defensive, and
we could get something back that we really need.
I wonder if they will go after Hossa after July 1, because I'm sure pittsburg won't be
able to keep him, because of money, but we will have the freed up money to pay him,
without giving up any players. He is a very talented player and big and strong, and I
can see him playing with raymond and naslund, could be a great line.
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April 2nd, 2008, 12:39 AM
We played a pretty good 1/2 a game tonight, then avalanche woke up. I'm not going to trash all over the canucks cause they lost, I am going to compliment them for playing well
enough to still have a chance till the end.
Player for player the avalanche are a much better team, and now that theodore has returned to his previous talented self, that rounds out their team. We don't have 'ONE'
player who is as good as their top players, so, that's just the way it is.
I don't want canucks to win just because luongo wins it for them, I want our team to change throughout the summer. We are only about 3 players out of having a real contender, so we'll see how well nonis does in the summer with trades and free agent signings. (there won't be many 'top' free agents, just a few),
They have to be goal scoring forwards.
I don't like the sedins at all any more, I sure hope they are traded, and naslund will
probably be gone too, Isbister, cowan, have to go.
I'm allready looking forward to next year.
We played a pretty good 1/2 a game tonight, then avalanche woke up. I'm not going to trash all over the canucks cause they lost, I am going to compliment them for playing well
enough to still have a chance till the end.
Player for player the avalanche are a much better team, and now that theodore has returned to his previous talented self, that rounds out their team. We don't have 'ONE'
player who is as good as their top players, so, that's just the way it is.
I don't want canucks to win just because luongo wins it for them, I want our team to change throughout the summer. We are only about 3 players out of having a real contender, so we'll see how well nonis does in the summer with trades and free agent signings. (there won't be many 'top' free agents, just a few),
They have to be goal scoring forwards.
I don't like the sedins at all any more, I sure hope they are traded, and naslund will
probably be gone too, Isbister, cowan, have to go.
I'm allready looking forward to next year.
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April 2nd, 2008, 10:22 PM
That the Canucks played half a game is absolutely right. They did fall apart one more time and blow yet another two goal lead. The Vancouver management have got to start doing things to help the team as opposed to helping the bottom line. One of the problems is that Vancouver gets a full house whether they win or lose. The Sedins are a good European duo. They don't play North American hockey. A few good checks put them off their game and they don't recover. Naslund is a similar player. The thing is that most other teams know that these three have not made Vancouver a winner so it will be hard to make a trade for these guys that is going to help the team a hell of a lot. If the Canucks make the play-offs, I can't see it going much more than four games.
That the Canucks played half a game is absolutely right. They did fall apart one more time and blow yet another two goal lead. The Vancouver management have got to start doing things to help the team as opposed to helping the bottom line. One of the problems is that Vancouver gets a full house whether they win or lose. The Sedins are a good European duo. They don't play North American hockey. A few good checks put them off their game and they don't recover. Naslund is a similar player. The thing is that most other teams know that these three have not made Vancouver a winner so it will be hard to make a trade for these guys that is going to help the team a hell of a lot. If the Canucks make the play-offs, I can't see it going much more than four games.
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April 4th, 2008, 12:52 AM
na n na naa na n na naa ahh ah ah ahhhh so oh oh long
Can't wait till next year. The next playoff is for dave nonis, in the summer, he will be in the spotlight, and he better come through, we all will be watching.
I will go and cheer for my others teams now, as I watch many many games a week. Minnesota is one of my favourites,
Washington, Pittsburg, and of course the Habs, so I will still enjoy the hockey right up to the cup final.
GO CANUCKS GO
na n na naa na n na naa ahh ah ah ahhhh so oh oh long
Can't wait till next year. The next playoff is for dave nonis, in the summer, he will be in the spotlight, and he better come through, we all will be watching.
I will go and cheer for my others teams now, as I watch many many games a week. Minnesota is one of my favourites,
Washington, Pittsburg, and of course the Habs, so I will still enjoy the hockey right up to the cup final.
GO CANUCKS GO
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April 4th, 2008, 01:09 AM
We need more scorers and grit, so I am waiting, starting today for that to happen.
Quoting Kreskin
Yeah I heard that too. Good one. Not at all untrue. I'm tired of swedes. We have enough with Ohlund and Edler, and they are quiet and unexciting, but good players.
Heard a great quote tonight, "the Canucks are all Swedish and no Finish".
We need more scorers and grit, so I am waiting, starting today for that to happen.
April 4th, 2008, 01:22 AM
Will the Sedins spend the summer riding a two-seater bike?
Quoting talloola
It turned out, the only guy that could play with Sedins was Lance Armstrong. Yeah I heard that too. Good one. Not at all untrue. I'm tired of swedes. We have enough with Ohlund and Edler, and they are quiet and unexciting, but good players.
We need more scorers and grit, so I am waiting, starting today for that to happen.
We need more scorers and grit, so I am waiting, starting today for that to happen.
Will the Sedins spend the summer riding a two-seater bike?
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April 4th, 2008, 02:19 AM
I thought a lot about Jovonoski tonight, when we needed a defenceman to come in off the blueline
and make something happen. He has had a great year, I have watched lots of their games, they didn't
make the playoffs, but wait till next year, they have lots of young guys, very talented.
Quoting Kreskin
OK, that went right over my head, I assume they rode bikes together!!!!?
It turned out, the only guy that could play with Sedins was Lance Armstrong.
Will the Sedins spend the summer riding a two-seater bike?
Will the Sedins spend the summer riding a two-seater bike?
I thought a lot about Jovonoski tonight, when we needed a defenceman to come in off the blueline
and make something happen. He has had a great year, I have watched lots of their games, they didn't
make the playoffs, but wait till next year, they have lots of young guys, very talented.
April 4th, 2008, 08:09 AM
The Coyotes should do much better next year.
Quoting talloola
Sedins - All they do is cycle. OK, that went right over my head, I assume they rode bikes together!!!!?
I thought a lot about Jovonoski tonight, when we needed a defenceman to come in off the blueline
and make something happen. He has had a great year, I have watched lots of their games, they didn't
make the playoffs, but wait till next year, they have lots of young guys, very talented.
I thought a lot about Jovonoski tonight, when we needed a defenceman to come in off the blueline
and make something happen. He has had a great year, I have watched lots of their games, they didn't
make the playoffs, but wait till next year, they have lots of young guys, very talented.
The Coyotes should do much better next year.
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April 4th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Quoting Kreskin
Hey, but it looks good. Never mind that the twins never hit anyone, or score a winner when the team really needs one. The Sedins are a showy, ridiculous, luxury the team can't afford The Canucks have been a day late and a dollar short all season. The team needs a leader and they don't have one. The team needs some scoring punch and they don't have it. There is nothing wrong with the Canucks that three good defensemen and four good forwards wouldn't fix.
Sedins - All they do is cycle.
The Coyotes should do much better next year.
The Coyotes should do much better next year.
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April 4th, 2008, 12:15 PM
and spend big bucks on a defenceman, our back end is pretty good, spend the money and
make the trades for 'forwards', really good forwards.
Quoting #juan
I agree with all, and I'll be waiting and watching, although I don't think we need to go out
Hey, but it looks good. Never mind that the twins never hit anyone, or score a winner when the team really needs one. The Sedins are a showy, ridiculous, luxury the team can't afford The Canucks have been a day late and a dollar short all season. The team needs a leader and they don't have one. The team needs some scoring punch and they don't have it. There is nothing wrong with the Canucks that three good defensemen and four good forwards wouldn't fix.
and spend big bucks on a defenceman, our back end is pretty good, spend the money and
make the trades for 'forwards', really good forwards.
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April 4th, 2008, 12:42 PM
Quoting talloola
The problem with our defense is that they are always injured. Both Ohland and Salo were out for long stretches. Salo and Ohland are our experienced defensemen and they have to teach the younger players. The team loses because the opponents score more goals against the Canucks than the Canucks score on their opponents. We either have to score more goals or allow fewer goals. If we could score five goals every game, our defence would be great.
I agree with all, and I'll be waiting and watching, although I don't think we need to go out
and spend big bucks on a defenceman, our back end is pretty good, spend the money and
make the trades for 'forwards', really good forwards.
and spend big bucks on a defenceman, our back end is pretty good, spend the money and
make the trades for 'forwards', really good forwards.
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April 4th, 2008, 09:27 PM
veteran defencemen have to go, as they will be wanted by someone. Hopefully next
year we don't have so many injuries in our defence core. I was at the game where
Bieksa and Salo were injured, and that was awful. Bieksa's injury was serious, and I think
we have to wait till next year to see him at his best. The defence had to be juggled alot
this year, with all the injuries, pairs were mixed around quite a bit. Weaver actually played very well. Bourdon will be better next year, he had some good games this year, but seemed a little overwhelmed last night, and so did Edler down the stretch, they
are both very young, with good potential, especially Edler.
I want to see the Sedins go, but many who called into team 1040, and others would like
them to stay, and be on a second line. I don't know, they are too methodical and pokey,
although they do play well when they have time, but for me, that isn't good enough.
We need to score more goals, take some pressure off of the defence and especially Luongo, he can't be expected to stop everything, it is a team game, and he needs help.
When he knows that we are only going to score 2 or less goals per game, the pressure
on him will make him faulter, as it did in the last few games, he is much better than that.
Quoting #juan
I do think that, if we are going to trade for some top forwards, one of those two
The problem with our defense is that they are always injured. Both Ohland and Salo were out for long stretches. Salo and Ohland are our experienced defensemen and they have to teach the younger players. The team loses because the opponents score more goals against the Canucks than the Canucks score on their opponents. We either have to score more goals or allow fewer goals. If we could score five goals every game, our defence would be great.
veteran defencemen have to go, as they will be wanted by someone. Hopefully next
year we don't have so many injuries in our defence core. I was at the game where
Bieksa and Salo were injured, and that was awful. Bieksa's injury was serious, and I think
we have to wait till next year to see him at his best. The defence had to be juggled alot
this year, with all the injuries, pairs were mixed around quite a bit. Weaver actually played very well. Bourdon will be better next year, he had some good games this year, but seemed a little overwhelmed last night, and so did Edler down the stretch, they
are both very young, with good potential, especially Edler.
I want to see the Sedins go, but many who called into team 1040, and others would like
them to stay, and be on a second line. I don't know, they are too methodical and pokey,
although they do play well when they have time, but for me, that isn't good enough.
We need to score more goals, take some pressure off of the defence and especially Luongo, he can't be expected to stop everything, it is a team game, and he needs help.
When he knows that we are only going to score 2 or less goals per game, the pressure
on him will make him faulter, as it did in the last few games, he is much better than that.
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April 6th, 2008, 12:49 AM
WEST
detroit vs nashville
San Jose vs either calgary or colorado
anaheim vs dallas
minnesota vs either calgary or colorado
EAST
phillidelphia vs either pittsburg or montreal
boston vs either pittsburg or montreal
ottawa vs new washington
new york ranges vs new jersey
Looking forward to the entry draft usually around june 15, then free agents move around
on july 1 or later.
We will be seeing changes on the canucks, almost anything they do will be for the
better, as the team does not have the courage or talent to compete as it is right now.
I hope Luongo doesn't accept any offers to play in the world hockey, as he needs to go home to his wife and new baby, he hasn't been himself since he came back, so I'm
sure he will be very happy to go home now and spend the summer with them.
I still want to see the Sedins go, they can be traded, the two of them, for one 'superior big' centerman would be fine with me, and I assume Naslund will be gone too, I would like him
to come back for less money and play, but I assume Nonis will not sign him, just so the team can bring a new identity next year and start fresh. Naslund can still contribute to
this team, it is obvious he has much talent, he did score 25 goals, and he would be a
good winger to play with a very highly talented, 'big' high scoring centerman, I wonder
who that might be.
Nonis will have money this year, he had none at the beginning of this season.
Morrison is also a free agent, wonder if he will be back.
We have a great goalie in Manitoba, Corey Schneider, who is playing great, he would be good trade bait, maybe
along with Ohlund or Salo or maybe even Bourdon, (although I think they should keep him).
GO CANUCKS GO
WEST
detroit vs nashville
San Jose vs either calgary or colorado
anaheim vs dallas
minnesota vs either calgary or colorado
EAST
phillidelphia vs either pittsburg or montreal
boston vs either pittsburg or montreal
ottawa vs new washington
new york ranges vs new jersey
Looking forward to the entry draft usually around june 15, then free agents move around
on july 1 or later.
We will be seeing changes on the canucks, almost anything they do will be for the
better, as the team does not have the courage or talent to compete as it is right now.
I hope Luongo doesn't accept any offers to play in the world hockey, as he needs to go home to his wife and new baby, he hasn't been himself since he came back, so I'm
sure he will be very happy to go home now and spend the summer with them.
I still want to see the Sedins go, they can be traded, the two of them, for one 'superior big' centerman would be fine with me, and I assume Naslund will be gone too, I would like him
to come back for less money and play, but I assume Nonis will not sign him, just so the team can bring a new identity next year and start fresh. Naslund can still contribute to
this team, it is obvious he has much talent, he did score 25 goals, and he would be a
good winger to play with a very highly talented, 'big' high scoring centerman, I wonder
who that might be.
Nonis will have money this year, he had none at the beginning of this season.
Morrison is also a free agent, wonder if he will be back.
We have a great goalie in Manitoba, Corey Schneider, who is playing great, he would be good trade bait, maybe
along with Ohlund or Salo or maybe even Bourdon, (although I think they should keep him).
GO CANUCKS GO
April 6th, 2008, 01:26 AM
You mentioned Corey Schneider, did you hear the rumour floating around of a Spezza-Luongo deal? Highly unlikely but fun to hear.
I had to agree with a guy on Team1040 the other day. The team needs a goon. No one respects the Canucks toughness. Cowan doesn't cut it. More toughness is required in this hack and whack division.
I don't think Naslund's style fits the team system. He'd do well on one like the Canadiens, where there is some focus on puck movement and not just pissing around all day in the corners like this team. If I were him I'd look elsewhere.
I'd stick with the Sedins and see if I could find the equivalent of a Carter again to go with them.
I don't see any quick fixes. Time for the scouts to find some good draft prospects and work on a three or four year plan. The draft has been a sore spot for this team since about 1970, except for a couple of years.
You mentioned Corey Schneider, did you hear the rumour floating around of a Spezza-Luongo deal? Highly unlikely but fun to hear.
I had to agree with a guy on Team1040 the other day. The team needs a goon. No one respects the Canucks toughness. Cowan doesn't cut it. More toughness is required in this hack and whack division.
I don't think Naslund's style fits the team system. He'd do well on one like the Canadiens, where there is some focus on puck movement and not just pissing around all day in the corners like this team. If I were him I'd look elsewhere.
I'd stick with the Sedins and see if I could find the equivalent of a Carter again to go with them.
I don't see any quick fixes. Time for the scouts to find some good draft prospects and work on a three or four year plan. The draft has been a sore spot for this team since about 1970, except for a couple of years.
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April 6th, 2008, 06:24 PM
I agree about the team toughness. They don't have it.
The Sedins are pretty players but they can't take a check....or give one.
Quoting Kreskin
Spezza for Luongo....Sounds good to me...I'd throw in the twins as well. If we could get a good defenseman as well. Vancouver has an excellent backup goaltender and has some good, young goaltenders in their system.
You mentioned Corey Schneider, did you hear the rumour floating around of a Spezza-Luongo deal? Highly unlikely but fun to hear.
I had to agree with a guy on Team1040 the other day. The team needs a goon. No one respects the Canucks toughness. Cowan doesn't cut it. More toughness is required in this hack and whack division.
I don't think Naslund's style fits the team system. He'd do well on one like the Canadiens, where there is some focus on puck movement and not just pissing around all day in the corners like this team. If I were him I'd look elsewhere.
I'd stick with the Sedins and see if I could find the equivalent of a Carter again to go with them.
I don't see any quick fixes. Time for the scouts to find some good draft prospects and work on a three or four year plan. The draft has been a sore spot for this team since about 1970, except for a couple of years.
I had to agree with a guy on Team1040 the other day. The team needs a goon. No one respects the Canucks toughness. Cowan doesn't cut it. More toughness is required in this hack and whack division.
I don't think Naslund's style fits the team system. He'd do well on one like the Canadiens, where there is some focus on puck movement and not just pissing around all day in the corners like this team. If I were him I'd look elsewhere.
I'd stick with the Sedins and see if I could find the equivalent of a Carter again to go with them.
I don't see any quick fixes. Time for the scouts to find some good draft prospects and work on a three or four year plan. The draft has been a sore spot for this team since about 1970, except for a couple of years.
I agree about the team toughness. They don't have it.
The Sedins are pretty players but they can't take a check....or give one.
