Is Cricket a "Real Man's Sport"?

Is cricket a "Real Man's Sport?"


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Toro

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No.

It takes 5 days to play.

There are hundreds of runs.

Its boring as hell.

They break for tea.

Everybody wears white.

Its a game for upper class namby-pambies whose parents shipped them off to boarding school and who weren't tough enough to make the girls sewing team.

Its played on an "oval"

You can't buy nachos at the "oval"
 

#juan

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Another annoying thing they do is politely clap when a new batter comes out. I guess they're cheering the fact that he got his ass off the bench. Don't know what else it could be. The guy hasn't done anything yet. The game is impossible for a non-player to follow. Boring... :roll:
 

Blackleaf

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Toro said:
No.


Everybody wears white.
"

Don't they all wear white in baseball?

And the teams don't wear white in One Day cricket.

Also, if cricket isn't a man's sport, then what does that make baseball and basketball? I've said many times on this forum that in Britain, baseball and basketball are for schoolgirls - only here they are called netball and rounders.

Trust the Yanks to have a national sport that is derived from - copied from - a schoolgirl's game. It's no wonder we Brits call baseball "Silly boy's rounders."
 

Blackleaf

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If you don't believe me that baseball is derived from the British schoolgirls' game of rounders - rather than just being similar to it - here's what Wikipedia says about rounders. In fact, we used to call rounders "base-ball" -



Rounders is a British game for schoolgirls (without helmets), though the Americans now have it as their national sport.

Rounders is a sport which originated in Great Britain and Ireland. The game is regulated by the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) in Ireland and the National Rounders Association (NRA) in England. Both regulating bodies operate a slightly different, although broadly similar, game-play and culture. Competitions are held between teams from both traditions with games alternating between codes, often with one version being played in the morning and the other being played in the afternoon.

Game-play centres around innings where teams alternate at turns being batters and fielders. A maximum of nine players are allowed to play in fielding positions at one time. Points ("rounders") are scored by the batting team by completing a circuit around the field through four bases/posts without being put 'out' - for example, by a ball they batted being 'caught-out' or touching a tagged base/post.

The sport is very old and it has been documented as early as the seventeenth century. The earliest nationally formalised rules of play were devised by the GAA in Ireland in 1884. Liverpudlian and Scottish associations were formed in 1889. The NRA were not formed until 1943.

Baseball (both the "New York game" and the now-defunct "Massachusetts game") as well as softball evolved from rounders (see origins of baseball) and bear a striking resemblance to the GAA version of the game. In fact, the earliest literary mention of rounders calls the game "base-ball." Rounders is now played on all levels from school-level to internationals.




Players: Three substitutes may be made during play to the list of field players. There is no limit for the number of batters a team may list.

Equipment: The ball (sliotar) circumference is 22.7-25.5 cm (9"-10") and bats may be 70-110 cm (27"-43") long and up to 22 cm (8.6") in diameter. There is no limit on bat-weight for the GAA game. Bases are normally marked with temporary square mats 64 cm (28") wide for home-base and the pitchers stand and 46 cm (18") wide for all others.

Batting: Each batsman is entitled to three good balls. A batsman must try to hit good balls bowled to him/her but need not run on a hit. If s/he hits a ball that would otherwise be considered 'bad', the ball is then considered to be 'good.' If, on the his/her first or second good ball, s/he hits a ball into the foul ground or hits the ball but does not run then it is considered a 'dead' ball and other batsmen men may not advance. If a batter receives three bad balls then a 'walk-on' is called and all batsmen may advance one base. The batter may run on any ball except a 'dead' ball.

A batsman is out if:

the catcher catches and holds the third good ball bowled to him/her
s/he strikes a ball into the foul ground on his/her third good ball
s/he obstructs the pitchers or catchers view for a second time (s/he will be warned on the first instance)
s/he comes into contact with a fielder carrying the ball
s/he touches a base that has been 'tagged' by another fielder carrying the ball (s/he may return to the previous base before touching it, if that base is still unoccupied)
s/he attempts to occupy a base occupied by another batsman (with the exception of 1st base, which another batsman must vacate to make way for the current batter)


Batsmen must run in straight lines between bases and fielders may not obstruct their way or stand on bases. Not obeying this rule is considered unsporting behaviour and may result in up to two bases being awarded to the batting team or a batter being sent out. Normally, one batsman may not overtake another while running between bases, although there are exceptions to this rule.

Five to seven innings constitute a game, depending on the level of the match. Each batting team's inning continues until three outs are made.

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NRA Specific Rules

Diagram of an NRA standard rounders pitch.The rules of rounders are regulated by the National Rounders Association in England[2]. Games played under these rules use smaller bats, balls and are played on a smaller pitch (see diagram) compared to GAA games. The NRA rules also differ most from baseball or softball: bases are marked with long poles, which batsmen must keep in contact with and fielders must 'stump,' and only one 'good' ball need normally be thrown before a batter must run. 'Half-rounders' are also counted in scoring.

Players: The fielding team must field at a minimum six players. The total number of players on a team is limited to fifteen.

Equipment: The ball circumference must be 7.5 inches (19 cm) and the bat no more than 18" (460 mm) in length and 6.75" (170 mm) in diameter. The NRA places a weight-limit of 13 ounces (370g) on the bat. Bases are marked with poles. These poles need to be as long as brooms and the bases need to be sturdy enough to hold them upright.

Batting: If a ball is good, a batsman must try to hit it and regardless of whether s/he hits the ball, the batter must run on a good ball. If the ball is hit into the backward area, the batsman may not pass first post until the ball is returned to the forward area. If the batter hits a no-ball, s/he may not be caught-out or stumped at the first post. Batsmen may run, if s/he chooses, on 'no-balls.' Each batsman except the last in each inning is entitled to receive one good ball; the last batsman is entitled to receive three unless caught out.

A half-rounder is scored if:

fourth post is reached and touched before the next ball is bowled without hitting the ball
second post is reached and touched before next ball is bowled after hitting the ball
obstruction by a fielder/batter
two consecutive no-balls to the same batter



A batsman is out if:

s/he runs inside the posts
s/he is not in contact with a post (using his hand or stick) while the bowler is preparing to bowl
s/he is not in contact with a post and the next post is stumped
s/he puts a foot outside the front or back of the batting square before swinging at a good ball
s/he overtakes another runner



Two innings constitute a game. Each batting team's inning continues until nine outs are made or the numbered innings is over.

wikipedia.org

So the Americans didn't invent baseball. The British did hundreds of years ago, but the Yanks didn't realise that we intended it to be played by little girls.

And it's not only the United States that has a British schoolgirls' game as their national sport. Canada's national sport - ice hockey - bears an uncanny resemblance to hockey, and basketball - invented in Canada - looks too much like netball.


Netball is a girls' game - except in North America where they call it "basketball".
 

I think not

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Yeah I agree, baseball was derived from rounders, and?

Can that school girl throw a ball at 100 miles an hour?

Can the opposing girl hit the ball at 100 miles an hour?

Baseball isn't rounders anymore, many of the rules have been taken from rounders.

Cricket sucks, in all my life I have only encountered one person that actually likes cricket, and he's a friend in Australia.

In baseball and basketball you sweat, you bump into each other, you get bruised.

In cricket, you sweat from drinking hot tea, at best you bump into somebody else from boredum, and the only thing that can get bruised is your ego.
 

Toro

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RE: Is Cricket a "Real Ma

I remember when I first turned cricket on the TV when I was living in England. It was a Tuesday. I thought "Cricket. That's nice." Then I turned it off.

On Friday, I turned on the TV again and saw that the same two teams were playing. I turned to my Australian friend and asked "Is this a best of seven or something."

"No," he replied. "Same game."

I never turned it back on again.
 

Daz_Hockey

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RE: Is Cricket a "Real Ma

they dont drink "Tea" actually ITN, these day's they generally get very drunk on spirits and booze actually, they also mostly dont wear white anymore...you should play 20/20 cricket, it's great, youd love it...

and as far as the players being unmanly, they certainly hold their own against rugby players in the drinking stakes...ask shane warne....oh and Australian men arent at all manly, now are they: :(
 

sha_zapple

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RE: Is Cricket a "Real Ma

Id say Rugby or Hockey is a 'real mans sport', since theyre both heavy contact sports (womens rugby is slower and more technical).

IMO rugby is better than football because they dont wear armour and stop every few yards for a break.
 

gopher

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RE: Is Cricket a "Real Ma

I voted "yes".

Cricket, like baseball, can be improved but I still wouldn't put in the same class as soccer, rugby, Gaelic, or field hockey. It is not viewed as an upper class sport in India or the Caribbean but is thought to be the working man's sport.
 

gopher

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I was at a sport media conference in Minneapolis and a girl there remarked that American football is the most homoerotic sport anywhere for the following reasons:

1) players take a field position that appears to invite buggery

2) the quarterback makes much contact with the center's under carriage

3) players hug and kiss on the sidelines

4) "tight end" is an anal term



Points to ponder ...


:idea:
 

Truekiwijoker

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BAHAHAHA I love this! Some douchebag from North America mouths off about something he knows nothing about and makes an arse of himself

It takes 5 days to play.

Thats only international test matches. And logically it's more reason why it's so tough. 5 days of putting your body on the line

There are hundreds of runs.


I know! manly ay?

Its boring as hell.

So I take it you don't like Baseball or golf? Or Gridiron for that matter...

They break for tea.

Um yes, just like they break for lunch. Because they've been playing and sweating all day! Part of why it's so hard.

Everybody wears white.


Those white flannels that give all those Sheilas wide-ons?.
And what? So much more manly than those tight trousers/tights and those fruity looking tops. They look like some homosexual fashion designers attempt at the Victorian longjohns look. And what about those big gloves so they don't hurt their hands?

Its a game for upper class namby-pambies whose parents shipped them off to boarding school and who weren't tough enough to make the girls sewing team.


Really? Funny how few toffs play the sport then isn't it? I mean I'm sure all those bluecollar, Indian and Negroe players would be thrilled to be called Upper class. But then again it's a bit hard not to get confortable about your status and social graces when meeting orth Americans.

Its played on an "oval"


So what? Baseball is played on a 'Diamond' like a piece of girlies jewellery. They dont need an oval as the batter only hits it 45deg either side. So easy for the fielders.

You can't buy nachos at the "oval"


I'm sure you can at most major ovals. I've bought countless pies, Hotdogs, fries, Milkshakes, Sandwiches, Hamburgers... well all sorts of gutrott at big Cricket games. And if you really want you can spend some extra dosh and get a good steak meal.

Why don't you actually find out something about Cricket before you slag it off.
 

Truekiwijoker

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Can that school girl throw a ball at 100 miles an hour?

Some really ace Cricketers can BOWL at over 100mph, which is so much tougher than pitching it

Can the opposing girl hit the ball at 100 miles an hour?

Any top level Cricketer can. Even alot of Schoolboy players.

Cricket sucks, in all my life I have only encountered one person that actually likes cricket, and he's a friend in Australia.

Yeah great backup of your opinion there mate. You obviously haven't met many foreigners then have you? ONE joker you know likes Cricket so therefore you think it sucks. You're a real rocket scientist mate.

In baseball and basketball you sweat, you bump into each other, you get bruised.

Yeah, JUST LIKE CRICKET!. How often do Baseballers get concussed, their jaws or hands broken? Killed?

In cricket, you sweat from drinking hot tea, at best you bump into somebody else from boredum, and the only thing that can get bruised is your ego.


In Baseball the only skids made and sweating are from those tight trousers running up the players bumcracks. God, how undignified!
 

Truekiwijoker

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I remember when I first turned cricket on the TV when I was living in England. It was a Tuesday. I thought "Cricket. That's nice." Then I turned it off.

On Friday, I turned on the TV again and saw that the same two teams were playing. I turned to my Australian friend and asked "Is this a best of seven or something."

"No," he replied. "Same game."

I never turned it back on again.


Wow! ooooh! thats a really good assessment there! You saw one second then turned it off. They were still playing it because it's so hard mate!
 

Truekiwijoker

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Cricket, like baseball, can be improved

I cant speak for Baseball but Cricket is an art refined to perfection.

It is not viewed as an upper class sport in India or the Caribbean but is thought to be the working man's sport.

FINALLY! Someone from North America who knows something!
I don't think it's an upper class sport anywhere except maybe London, England and North America, in the latter location being a minority sport.
 

Dexter Sinister

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All professional sports are just substition activites. You have no life? Become a rabid sports fan, it'll give you meaning and purpose, however trivial they might be. Why we should pay grown up people vast sums to play children's games eludes me. The only excuse I can think of for professional sports is that they provide such clear and unequivocal examples of excellence, at something, even if it's trivial. I remember a football coach years ago, on being asked what was the most difficult part of the job, replying that you have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. It's not important. It's fun to play, it's entertaining to watch, it'll help keep you in shape if you play it, but it fundamentally doesn't really matter.


So is cricket a real man's sport? No. Neither is any other sport. It's a trumped up children's game, as is every other professional sport. it's all entertainment, no different in principle from Wayne Newton's shows in Las Vegas. And that's a guy as old as I am whose voice hasn't changed yet. Okay, call me a cynic...

Being a real man has nothing to do with athletic skills.
 

Truekiwijoker

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All professional sports are just substition activites. You have no life? Become a rabid sports fan, it'll give you meaning and purpose, however trivial they might be. Why we should pay grown up people vast sums to play children's games eludes me. The only excuse I can think of for professional sports is that they provide such clear and unequivocal examples of excellence, at something, even if it's trivial. I remember a football coach years ago, on being asked what was the most difficult part of the job, replying that you have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. It's not important. It's fun to play, it's entertaining to watch, it'll help keep you in shape if you play it, but it fundamentally doesn't really matter.


So is cricket a real man's sport? No. Neither is any other sport. It's a trumped up children's game, as is every other professional sport. it's all entertainment, no different in principle from Wayne Newton's shows in Las Vegas. And that's a guy as old as I am whose voice hasn't changed yet. Okay, call me a cynic...

Being a real man has nothing to do with athletic skills.

Thanks for the sermon Mr. Never was good at sports and spent secondary school getting wedgies and dunny flushes.
 

razorgrade

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No.

It takes 5 days to play.

There are hundreds of runs.

Its boring as hell.

They break for tea.

Everybody wears white.

Its a game for upper class namby-pambies whose parents shipped them off to boarding school and who weren't tough enough to make the girls sewing team.

Its played on an "oval"

You can't buy nachos at the "oval"

agree that cricket is boring. it is for fat lazy old guys who like standing around all day. in fact any sport where you hit a ball with a bat is.

I disagree about your comment on games played on ovals though
Australian Rules Football is played on ovals, it is a real man's sport and it is the complete antithesis of boring.
even the women who play it are tough ...