Complaining about humanity

karrie

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I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.

And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
 
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karrie

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It might solve the population issue that so many seem keen on legislating. lol.
 

Curiosity

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Nothing has changed

The thoughts which have always been there are now being printed up for public consumption on the internet.
 

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I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.

And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
---------------------------------------------------Karrie-------------------------------------------------

Great post.

And what I'll add is just the obvious to everyone:

We are free to ruminate. And we certainly do.

Democracies (let's just agree temporarily that we are in one) have a tendency to complain and argue ad infinitum.

One day, Kirk Douglas, was so depressed he went to the drawer containing the gun from his movie, OK Corral, and put it to his mouth, but for accidentally bumping his tooth and causing excruciating pain he got distracted from his original objective.

We move from complaint to complaint.
 

lone wolf

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My biggest complaint about humanity is the tendency of some to take what is said by one and twist the words into their own perversions of truths so they can point fingers and cast labels for that which they have created - in other words: Gossip mongers.
 

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Moderators, I don't need Echo moustache helping me get it up.
 

Walter

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Maybe I'm having a dense day but I think you need to explain this more clearly. Try PM.
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Curiosity

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Contrary to disappointment on my part because I have spent the past ten years reading the same old complaints over and over - updated as to new causes - but entrenched in a feeling of helplessness and anxiety..... I am grateful however....

.....because rather than learning about other people, I have learned far more about myself.

It has been a long journey of reflection, revision, decision, and accommodation.

Not wasted.

In sum - take what you can use positively and leave the rest for others.
 

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I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.

And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
I have seen more angry individuals in the last year than I have "noticed" previously. There could be many reasons for that. My perception my be better, :p OR there are more angry individuals....... OR....... and I think this may be the reason...... people are more willing to express it. In fact, feel it is.....their right. AND think it is positive self expression. Studies in fact show inappropriate expression of anger is both physically and mentally damaging. I believe such individuals have no impulse control and little understanding of humanity. They love to be divisive.

They now feel quite comfortable railing and condescending AND they expect the other to take it quietly and not fight back. There's another thread about just that, around here somewhere. A lofty attitude of "let me educate you". The thing is, those individuals usually have a personal agenda which others may miss but eventually get irritated by.

The older I become the less I am willing to engage in nasty argument unless I believe the individual is over the top in their belief system and may actually be open even a tiny bit to what I have to say. Most I find are not. They embrace an idea and cling to it regardless of logic or merit.

In the real world and here on the net I am seeing people taking one side or another.... that of stir the pot with their anger and accusations OR...... a truly balanced approach to others. A willingness to basically live and let live, discuss and turn possibilites around and resolve disputes, do a basic internet handshake and walk away amiably. That takes two however...... when the other has shown they are unwilling, it's best to walk away.

Not much in the middle any more.

My biggest complaint about humanity is the tendency of some to take what is said by one and twist the words into their own perversions of truths so they can point fingers and cast labels for that which they have created - in other words: Gossip mongers.
Yes, the new intellectual way to argue......:roll: pfffffffft. Blast your opponent with BS about what they supposedly believe and twist everything to one's own liking.

Not pleasant to address, mostly a waste of time to responsd. I used to think there was hope for everyone. I'm learning, albeit slowly and much to my disappointment, that some are just not worth putting forth the energy as they are either incapable or undesiring of appropriate response.
 

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What about the rest of us? What about those of us who embraced the values of our fathers and our social construct to find that they're predicated on lies and bigotry? What about those of us who contributed to a world that turned it's back on reason and instead opted for the mystical and the fantasy of unrealizeable dreams? What about those of us who invested in beliveing that our patriarchs and our "models" revealed "truth" to us when in fact they're nothing more than spokespersons for ulterior agendas? You spent your time working with women in Mexico who for a variety of reasons were placed in the position of victim to dynamics beyond their control.....to become a victim yourself!

What about your message and your right to hammer home that message to a people unwilling to listen and disassociated from the consequences?
 

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I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.

And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.

People who rant, and complain constantly, have never listened to themselves, they have
a one way communication system, and that is OUT, and nothing IN, and they have certainly lost the skills needed to be HAPPY, which is one's own responsibility, but
those types think it belongs to others, to make them happy, so others are blamed for
everything that is wrong with 'them'.
 

Curiosity

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What about the rest of us? What about those of us who embraced the values of our fathers and our social construct to find that they're predicated on lies and bigotry? What about those of us who contributed to a world that turned it's back on reason and instead opted for the mystical and the fantasy of unrealizeable dreams? What about those of us who invested in beliveing that our patriarchs and our "models" revealed "truth" to us when in fact they're nothing more than spokespersons for ulterior agendas? You spent your time working with women in Mexico who for a variety of reasons were placed in the position of victim to dynamics beyond their control.....to become a victim yourself!

What about your message and your right to hammer home that message to a people unwilling to listen and disassociated from the consequences?

Mikey - I hear you

I don't understand about the "rest of us" in your message. We are all getting through life together are we not? Investment in what others' believe to be true or hope to guide us into gives over our control to them when life is a journey we have to take on our own - equipped of course with what we are taught, but as you know often what we have been told and/or taught is through the eyes, mind and heart of another set of hopes - not always ours.

"You spent your time working with women in Mexico..." Are you referring to me? I have never been to Mexico -what I did for much of one school year until it was cut off with an accidental crop-spraying incident, was to work with farm laborers in California - women who became pregnant, giving them information as to prenatal medical care, child care and nutrition, and centers where they could receive further assistance. The alternative had been ( and may still be ) birthing a child in the fields with no assistance whatsoever.

I don't feel a victim at all Mikey - I honestly don't know where you are going with this. I do know that before the internet there was private gossip and word of mouth and inter-family opinion shared verbally or written - now we do the same with complete strangers - and perhaps more stridently because they are strangers and we don't necessarily 'own' what we write - but we rarely hold back some strong emotions if they present.

Is this a good thing or not? I have no idea - it is up to the individual to take what is there in our world these days - or to ignore the process rather than taking part.

The original theory posited is that the world seemed to be getting angrier. I stated it has always been so - humans have always had complaints and upsets.

Should I say personalities are more unforgiving these days? I believe (my opinion only) they have always been so but that the internet has exposed these issues more frequently in forums such as this. Alternatively there are some beautiful friendships which can be
found in the vast cyberworld if one is fortunate to share one.

I think you know well as do I - we can't win accolades from everyone for whatever we write, think or speak. Nor should we expect to. We can only take what is beneficial to our daily lives - and if we receive no benefit then consider forums as fun much like watching television and try to put them into a lesser category of import.

What is disappointing to me are those who never change and seem to be locked into a repetitive mantra saying the same things, having no eureka messages or ideas to share but only criticism of things we have little control over. I wonder what they 'get' out of it.