May 7th, 2008, 01:41 PM
I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.
And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.
And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
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May 7th, 2008, 01:48 PM
everyone is so emo these days. I think there needs to be a mass suicide, I'll watch
everyone is so emo these days. I think there needs to be a mass suicide, I'll watch
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May 7th, 2008, 03:23 PM
I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.
And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
---------------------------------------------------Karrie-------------------------------------------------
Great post.
And what I'll add is just the obvious to everyone:
We are free to ruminate. And we certainly do.
Democracies (let's just agree temporarily that we are in one) have a tendency to complain and argue ad infinitum.
One day, Kirk Douglas, was so depressed he went to the drawer containing the gun from his movie, OK Corral, and put it to his mouth, but for accidentally bumping his tooth and causing excruciating pain he got distracted from his original objective.
We move from complaint to complaint.
I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.
And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
---------------------------------------------------Karrie-------------------------------------------------
Great post.
And what I'll add is just the obvious to everyone:
We are free to ruminate. And we certainly do.
Democracies (let's just agree temporarily that we are in one) have a tendency to complain and argue ad infinitum.
One day, Kirk Douglas, was so depressed he went to the drawer containing the gun from his movie, OK Corral, and put it to his mouth, but for accidentally bumping his tooth and causing excruciating pain he got distracted from his original objective.
We move from complaint to complaint.
Ponderous Intellect
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May 7th, 2008, 03:36 PM
My biggest complaint about humanity is the tendency of some to take what is said by one and twist the words into their own perversions of truths so they can point fingers and cast labels for that which they have created - in other words: Gossip mongers.
My biggest complaint about humanity is the tendency of some to take what is said by one and twist the words into their own perversions of truths so they can point fingers and cast labels for that which they have created - in other words: Gossip mongers.
Steven Hawking's Hero
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May 7th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Contrary to disappointment on my part because I have spent the past ten years reading the same old complaints over and over - updated as to new causes - but entrenched in a feeling of helplessness and anxiety..... I am grateful however....
.....because rather than learning about other people, I have learned far more about myself.
It has been a long journey of reflection, revision, decision, and accommodation.
Not wasted.
In sum - take what you can use positively and leave the rest for others.
Contrary to disappointment on my part because I have spent the past ten years reading the same old complaints over and over - updated as to new causes - but entrenched in a feeling of helplessness and anxiety..... I am grateful however....
.....because rather than learning about other people, I have learned far more about myself.
It has been a long journey of reflection, revision, decision, and accommodation.
Not wasted.
In sum - take what you can use positively and leave the rest for others.
Super Genius
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May 7th, 2008, 05:37 PM
OR there are more angry individuals....... OR....... and I think this may be the reason...... people are more willing to express it. In fact, feel it is.....their right. AND think it is positive self expression. Studies in fact show inappropriate expression of anger is both physically and mentally damaging. I believe such individuals have no impulse control and little understanding of humanity. They love to be divisive.
They now feel quite comfortable railing and condescending AND they expect the other to take it quietly and not fight back. There's another thread about just that, around here somewhere. A lofty attitude of "let me educate you". The thing is, those individuals usually have a personal agenda which others may miss but eventually get irritated by.
The older I become the less I am willing to engage in nasty argument unless I believe the individual is over the top in their belief system and may actually be open even a tiny bit to what I have to say. Most I find are not. They embrace an idea and cling to it regardless of logic or merit.
In the real world and here on the net I am seeing people taking one side or another.... that of stir the pot with their anger and accusations OR...... a truly balanced approach to others. A willingness to basically live and let live, discuss and turn possibilites around and resolve disputes, do a basic internet handshake and walk away amiably. That takes two however...... when the other has shown they are unwilling, it's best to walk away.
Not much in the middle any more.
pfffffffft. Blast your opponent with BS about what they supposedly believe and twist everything to one's own liking.
Not pleasant to address, mostly a waste of time to responsd. I used to think there was hope for everyone. I'm learning, albeit slowly and much to my disappointment, that some are just not worth putting forth the energy as they are either incapable or undesiring of appropriate response.
Quoting karrie
I have seen more angry individuals in the last year than I have "noticed" previously. There could be many reasons for that. My perception my be better,
I've been reading a lot on a few forums as of late, and a resounding message underlying many people's exasperated posts is one of anger, loathing, frustration, and disrespect toward humanity in general. Post filled with complaints and ranting, and in the end the declaration that humanity sucks.
And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
And I can get being frustrated. I can get being upset by the atrocities and horrors that exist. But, reading many of these styles of posts, I can't help but think to myself that anyone sitting around ranting regularly about how much humanity sucks, has graduated to being a massive part of the problem.
OR there are more angry individuals....... OR....... and I think this may be the reason...... people are more willing to express it. In fact, feel it is.....their right. AND think it is positive self expression. Studies in fact show inappropriate expression of anger is both physically and mentally damaging. I believe such individuals have no impulse control and little understanding of humanity. They love to be divisive. They now feel quite comfortable railing and condescending AND they expect the other to take it quietly and not fight back. There's another thread about just that, around here somewhere. A lofty attitude of "let me educate you". The thing is, those individuals usually have a personal agenda which others may miss but eventually get irritated by.
The older I become the less I am willing to engage in nasty argument unless I believe the individual is over the top in their belief system and may actually be open even a tiny bit to what I have to say. Most I find are not. They embrace an idea and cling to it regardless of logic or merit.
In the real world and here on the net I am seeing people taking one side or another.... that of stir the pot with their anger and accusations OR...... a truly balanced approach to others. A willingness to basically live and let live, discuss and turn possibilites around and resolve disputes, do a basic internet handshake and walk away amiably. That takes two however...... when the other has shown they are unwilling, it's best to walk away.
Not much in the middle any more.
Quoting lone wolf
Yes, the new intellectual way to argue......
My biggest complaint about humanity is the tendency of some to take what is said by one and twist the words into their own perversions of truths so they can point fingers and cast labels for that which they have created - in other words: Gossip mongers.
pfffffffft. Blast your opponent with BS about what they supposedly believe and twist everything to one's own liking.Not pleasant to address, mostly a waste of time to responsd. I used to think there was hope for everyone. I'm learning, albeit slowly and much to my disappointment, that some are just not worth putting forth the energy as they are either incapable or undesiring of appropriate response.
Ponderous Intellect
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May 7th, 2008, 09:38 PM
Curio
What about the rest of us? What about those of us who embraced the values of our fathers and our social construct to find that they're predicated on lies and bigotry? What about those of us who contributed to a world that turned it's back on reason and instead opted for the mystical and the fantasy of unrealizeable dreams? What about those of us who invested in beliveing that our patriarchs and our "models" revealed "truth" to us when in fact they're nothing more than spokespersons for ulterior agendas? You spent your time working with women in Mexico who for a variety of reasons were placed in the position of victim to dynamics beyond their control.....to become a victim yourself!
What about your message and your right to hammer home that message to a people unwilling to listen and disassociated from the consequences?
Curio
What about the rest of us? What about those of us who embraced the values of our fathers and our social construct to find that they're predicated on lies and bigotry? What about those of us who contributed to a world that turned it's back on reason and instead opted for the mystical and the fantasy of unrealizeable dreams? What about those of us who invested in beliveing that our patriarchs and our "models" revealed "truth" to us when in fact they're nothing more than spokespersons for ulterior agendas? You spent your time working with women in Mexico who for a variety of reasons were placed in the position of victim to dynamics beyond their control.....to become a victim yourself!
What about your message and your right to hammer home that message to a people unwilling to listen and disassociated from the consequences?
