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March 30th, 2008, 06:26 AM
"What was at stake here in this whole process was the state of mankind's soul, whether then or today that needed to be addressed by the creator."
Makes it sound like an engineering problem of what to do with left over parts.
Going along with my last post you will see that there can be but only one God, over all and not one more.
I don't "go along with your last post". I say there is no God and you are unable to prove otherwise.
Hence Jesus is the only name by which mankind can be saved, for He alone endured to the end to win that salvation for us.
It's these sort of arrogant statements that dismiss Christianity as an irrelevant dream, or more accurately, nightmare.
One would think that because of all that, we'd learn to get along with each other better."
Dissing other religions, and atheism, with your contention that salvation can only be achieved by your Jewish Rabbi is the reason Christianity is the cause of so much strife in the world.
"What was at stake here in this whole process was the state of mankind's soul, whether then or today that needed to be addressed by the creator."
Makes it sound like an engineering problem of what to do with left over parts.
Going along with my last post you will see that there can be but only one God, over all and not one more.
I don't "go along with your last post". I say there is no God and you are unable to prove otherwise.
Hence Jesus is the only name by which mankind can be saved, for He alone endured to the end to win that salvation for us.
It's these sort of arrogant statements that dismiss Christianity as an irrelevant dream, or more accurately, nightmare.
One would think that because of all that, we'd learn to get along with each other better."
Dissing other religions, and atheism, with your contention that salvation can only be achieved by your Jewish Rabbi is the reason Christianity is the cause of so much strife in the world.
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March 30th, 2008, 07:27 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/greywlf/trinity.html
Quoting look3467
Some reading for you,
Heres my answer to that.
God the Father by name is the creator of all that there is.
But because mankind was made in likeness of God, there could but exist one God. All other god likes are as dead in His sight.
God the Son is mankind's representative of the Father God to reconcile that which was lost in the process, into one body, that body being the one God the Father.
Life than being a resultant. (Spiritually speaking)
Now mankind can exist as a god but within the Father God spiritually.
The Holy Spirit is the Father God, representative Jesus name,and representative to mankind via the heart, or spiritually while yet alive in the flesh.
These three are consistently referenced throughout the whole of the bible.
Father God the creator, Jesus Christ the creator and the Holy Spirit the comforter in the second creation.
Apart from those three, you have absolutely nothing.
They are all one in the same, but in different applications to arrive at the end results, and that is to give us all god like abilities without the penalty of eternal death due to there being but the one God over all.
All that is clear and very understandable throughout the scriptures if..........................
one should be inclined to seek it out with dire interest and not to find loop holes.
Peace>>>AJ
God the Father by name is the creator of all that there is.
But because mankind was made in likeness of God, there could but exist one God. All other god likes are as dead in His sight.
God the Son is mankind's representative of the Father God to reconcile that which was lost in the process, into one body, that body being the one God the Father.
Life than being a resultant. (Spiritually speaking)
Now mankind can exist as a god but within the Father God spiritually.
The Holy Spirit is the Father God, representative Jesus name,and representative to mankind via the heart, or spiritually while yet alive in the flesh.
These three are consistently referenced throughout the whole of the bible.
Father God the creator, Jesus Christ the creator and the Holy Spirit the comforter in the second creation.
Apart from those three, you have absolutely nothing.
They are all one in the same, but in different applications to arrive at the end results, and that is to give us all god like abilities without the penalty of eternal death due to there being but the one God over all.
All that is clear and very understandable throughout the scriptures if..........................
one should be inclined to seek it out with dire interest and not to find loop holes.
Peace>>>AJ
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/greywlf/trinity.html
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March 30th, 2008, 10:56 AM
http://sniggle.net/godhoax.php
Quoting shadowshiv
What reality? Your reality? Honestly, what makes you so sure that your reality is what everyone else should, or feel the need to, follow?
http://sniggle.net/godhoax.php
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March 30th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting BM5
My humblest thanks and I will do the same for you my friend.
My hope will be that you'll be my true friend indeed forever. Will add you to my morining prayers for friends family and neighbours.
The Heart of God is there for those who seek the truth within themselves.
The Heart of God is there for those who seek the truth within themselves.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 30th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Would it not be your bible of sorts?
But, I will honor your request and I will look at it.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting mrgrumpy
Since I already know your mind, what profit will it do me to read the above site?Would it not be your bible of sorts?
But, I will honor your request and I will look at it.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 30th, 2008, 11:31 AM
OK, mrgrumpy
Refuting the trinity is for lack of understanding.
The view in that site is from a humanistic understanding and lacks the spiritual side of understanding.
I understand the trinity view completely and have no problem with any verses that to man seem controversial.
The bible is designed to confuse in order for mankind to try harder to seek out the truth.
When mankind or folks such as your self who onces graced the pages of the bible with interest, became confused.
But rather than trying harder to seek out understanding, gave way to the easier path, and that is unbelief.
Why climb a mountain if there are so many obstacles in the way? Unless one has the hearts desire to reach the top, the obstacles are but a challenge and the going ruff, but at the top is victory over all of it.
Victory is not won standing on the sidelines of life, the easy path, the valleys, but in overcoming the challenges set forth in front of us so that onces the goal is met, we will have learned to conquer life in understanding.
PRO 24:3 Through wisdom is an house built; and by understanding it is established:
PRO 24:4 And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.
Knowledge of the wisdom of God is established by understanding, and the riches there in can only be known by understanding.
Here is wisdom, know and understand the word of God, and His riches will be yours.
Peace>>>AJ
OK, mrgrumpy
Refuting the trinity is for lack of understanding.
The view in that site is from a humanistic understanding and lacks the spiritual side of understanding.
I understand the trinity view completely and have no problem with any verses that to man seem controversial.
The bible is designed to confuse in order for mankind to try harder to seek out the truth.
When mankind or folks such as your self who onces graced the pages of the bible with interest, became confused.
But rather than trying harder to seek out understanding, gave way to the easier path, and that is unbelief.
Why climb a mountain if there are so many obstacles in the way? Unless one has the hearts desire to reach the top, the obstacles are but a challenge and the going ruff, but at the top is victory over all of it.
Victory is not won standing on the sidelines of life, the easy path, the valleys, but in overcoming the challenges set forth in front of us so that onces the goal is met, we will have learned to conquer life in understanding.
PRO 24:3 Through wisdom is an house built; and by understanding it is established:
PRO 24:4 And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.
Knowledge of the wisdom of God is established by understanding, and the riches there in can only be known by understanding.
Here is wisdom, know and understand the word of God, and His riches will be yours.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 30th, 2008, 11:32 AM
It's lovely that people are finding friendship and commonality here at CC. Whether people subscribe to your beliefs or not is beside the point. I don't but I'd still prefer to call you friend than enemy!
Can you call an avowed atheist your friend?
It's lovely that people are finding friendship and commonality here at CC. Whether people subscribe to your beliefs or not is beside the point. I don't but I'd still prefer to call you friend than enemy!
Can you call an avowed atheist your friend?
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March 30th, 2008, 11:44 AM
The Trinity was a purely, politcal human invention and based on pagan beliefs, as is so much else in the bible.
Quoting look3467
You do have a knack for dodging and weaving...ever boxed?
OK, mrgrumpy
Refuting the trinity is for lack of understanding.
The view in that site is from a humanistic understanding and lacks the spiritual side of understanding.
I understand the trinity view completely and have no problem with any verses that to man seem controversial.
The bible is designed to confuse in order for mankind to try harder to seek out the truth.
When mankind or folks such as your self who onces graced the pages of the bible with interest, became confused.
But rather than trying harder to seek out understanding, gave way to the easier path, and that is unbelief.
Why climb a mountain if there are so many obstacles in the way? Unless one has the hearts desire to reach the top, the obstacles are but a challenge and the going ruff, but at the top is victory over all of it.
Victory is not won standing on the sidelines of life, the easy path, the valleys, but in overcoming the challenges set forth in front of us so that onces the goal is met, we will have learned to conquer life in understanding.
PRO 24:3 Through wisdom is an house built; and by understanding it is established:
PRO 24:4 And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.
Knowledge of the wisdom of God is established by understanding, and the riches there in can only be known by understanding.
Here is wisdom, know and understand the word of God, and His riches will be yours.
Peace>>>AJ
Refuting the trinity is for lack of understanding.
The view in that site is from a humanistic understanding and lacks the spiritual side of understanding.
I understand the trinity view completely and have no problem with any verses that to man seem controversial.
The bible is designed to confuse in order for mankind to try harder to seek out the truth.
When mankind or folks such as your self who onces graced the pages of the bible with interest, became confused.
But rather than trying harder to seek out understanding, gave way to the easier path, and that is unbelief.
Why climb a mountain if there are so many obstacles in the way? Unless one has the hearts desire to reach the top, the obstacles are but a challenge and the going ruff, but at the top is victory over all of it.
Victory is not won standing on the sidelines of life, the easy path, the valleys, but in overcoming the challenges set forth in front of us so that onces the goal is met, we will have learned to conquer life in understanding.
PRO 24:3 Through wisdom is an house built; and by understanding it is established:
PRO 24:4 And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.
Knowledge of the wisdom of God is established by understanding, and the riches there in can only be known by understanding.
Here is wisdom, know and understand the word of God, and His riches will be yours.
Peace>>>AJ
The Trinity was a purely, politcal human invention and based on pagan beliefs, as is so much else in the bible.
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March 30th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Quoting MikeyDB
Absolutely' unequivocally yes!
It's lovely that people are finding friendship and commonality here at CC. Whether people subscribe to your beliefs or not is beside the point. I don't but I'd still prefer to call you friend than enemy!
Can you call an avowed atheist your friend?
Can you call an avowed atheist your friend?
Mighty Intellect
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Location: Northern California
Location: Northern California
March 30th, 2008, 11:51 AM
It's what is in your heart that matters.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting MikeyDB
Absolutely!
It's lovely that people are finding friendship and commonality here at CC. Whether people subscribe to your beliefs or not is beside the point. I don't but I'd still prefer to call you friend than enemy!
Can you call an avowed atheist your friend?
Can you call an avowed atheist your friend?
It's what is in your heart that matters.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 30th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Oh shucks, give me a hug!
On a slightly different note here's a send up on Mitt Romney, and those crazy funlovin' Baptists over at Landover University....
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1207/mittromney.html
Oh shucks, give me a hug!
On a slightly different note here's a send up on Mitt Romney, and those crazy funlovin' Baptists over at Landover University....
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1207/mittromney.html
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March 30th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Boxed? Yes, that was when I boxed God into a box of my own making. When that happened, I had no answers.
Now, I have no box and God is to all mankind what He is to me.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting mrgrumpy
It may seem to you that way my friend, but I know of which I speak.
You do have a knack for dodging and weaving...ever boxed?
The Trinity was a purely, politcal human invention and based on pagan beliefs, as is so much else in the bible.
The Trinity was a purely, politcal human invention and based on pagan beliefs, as is so much else in the bible.
Boxed? Yes, that was when I boxed God into a box of my own making. When that happened, I had no answers.
Now, I have no box and God is to all mankind what He is to me.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 30th, 2008, 12:03 PM
He has his and you have yours.
I don't see a problem with either of you until one of you should decide to make it a world belief and kill off every body who is different.
If that would be the case, I'd be fearful of mankind, not God.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting mrgrumpy
My comments is what you seek? Well, God gave us all, including yourself the ability to choose your own beliefs.
Oh shucks, give me a hug!
On a slightly different note here's a send up on Mitt Romney, and those crazy funlovin' Baptists over at Landover University....
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1207/mittromney.html
On a slightly different note here's a send up on Mitt Romney, and those crazy funlovin' Baptists over at Landover University....
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1207/mittromney.html
He has his and you have yours.
I don't see a problem with either of you until one of you should decide to make it a world belief and kill off every body who is different.
If that would be the case, I'd be fearful of mankind, not God.
Peace>>>AJ
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March 30th, 2008, 12:07 PM
[quote=look3467;939843]My comments is what you seek? Well, God gave us all, including yourself the ability to choose your own beliefs.
He has his and you have yours.
I don't see a problem with either of you until one of you should decide to make it a world belief and kill off every body who is different.
If that would be the case, I'd be fearful of mankind, not God."
It was GOD who killed off mankind in the great flood was it not? Even the Nazi's pale in comparison.
[quote=look3467;939843]My comments is what you seek? Well, God gave us all, including yourself the ability to choose your own beliefs.
He has his and you have yours.
I don't see a problem with either of you until one of you should decide to make it a world belief and kill off every body who is different.
If that would be the case, I'd be fearful of mankind, not God."
It was GOD who killed off mankind in the great flood was it not? Even the Nazi's pale in comparison.
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Location: Northern California
March 30th, 2008, 01:11 PM
[quote=mrgrumpy;939847]
Let me x you a question: if the world went into a nuclear Holocaust, whose fault would that be, and how many billions of people would be effected?
There is an explanation why the flood ended the inhabitants of that time, can you give me the reason why?
Nations rise and fall regardless of whether they believe in God or not why?
Sin!
Rome fell because it gave into sin and thus God judged it, likewise was the people before the flood, and the many times over and over did God judge Israel.
Friend, sin is the root of all destruction and sin has no favorites but does have an enemy: love.
God is love, and there is no evil in God, but in mankind alone.
Yes, God does provide the obstacles and the withal to overcome them, but if just we listen and learn.
Peace>>>AJ
[quote=mrgrumpy;939847]
Quoting look3467
My comments is what you seek? Well, God gave us all, including yourself the ability to choose your own beliefs.
He has his and you have yours.
I don't see a problem with either of you until one of you should decide to make it a world belief and kill off every body who is different.
If that would be the case, I'd be fearful of mankind, not God."
It was GOD who killed off mankind in the great flood was it not? Even the Nazi's pale in comparison.
He has his and you have yours.
I don't see a problem with either of you until one of you should decide to make it a world belief and kill off every body who is different.
If that would be the case, I'd be fearful of mankind, not God."
It was GOD who killed off mankind in the great flood was it not? Even the Nazi's pale in comparison.
Let me x you a question: if the world went into a nuclear Holocaust, whose fault would that be, and how many billions of people would be effected?
There is an explanation why the flood ended the inhabitants of that time, can you give me the reason why?
Nations rise and fall regardless of whether they believe in God or not why?
Sin!
Rome fell because it gave into sin and thus God judged it, likewise was the people before the flood, and the many times over and over did God judge Israel.
Friend, sin is the root of all destruction and sin has no favorites but does have an enemy: love.
God is love, and there is no evil in God, but in mankind alone.
Yes, God does provide the obstacles and the withal to overcome them, but if just we listen and learn.
Peace>>>AJ
