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March 13th, 2008, 03:53 PM

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"Anyway, I think people should be a little more selective in choosing their religious leaders...."

And perhaps they ought to be more selective in considering their sources of information as well. Have you reviewed eanassir's posts? Checked out his link? His knowledge of astronomy is especially illustrative of what a scientific, reality based view he has (with no reason to slant history at all). Enjoy reading up on it.

I have nothing to say... I'm speechless (that doesn't happen too often), the site is it's own worst evidence
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March 13th, 2008, 03:58 PM

yeah, I thought you'd find it interesting. It is sort of one of those things you have to see with your own eyes.
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March 13th, 2008, 04:17 PM

"There are many mistakes in the Hebrew Bible of Ezra. One of them is the story of the angels with Abraham, when they came and gave him the glad tidings of having a son. Ezra said that Abraham gave them food and they ate some of it. While God-be exalted-told us in the Quran that they did not eat of his food; because they were spirituals, that cannot eat from the material food of the people of this World, nor can they drink from their drink, but their food and drink is ethereal and spiritual that is suitable for them."

This made me lol. How can you argue with someone who just changes whatever he likes? "To hell with what the Bible says, this is what it should say..... and you better believe me!"

Another great read is the Urantia book. It is completely messed up. It has Jesus flying around in UFOs!!! And here is a testimony to the power of it's words:

"I find it the single-most inspiring and spiritually enlightening book I have ever read.All through my life I have felt there's 'something more' to God and the universe than I have been taught and learned of. I also have always felt a certain kinship with Jesus and through the study of His life, as told in the book, have discovered the roots of my feelings and thoughts." Washington, U.S.A."

Believe it or not I have a copy of this book and I like to read it (once in a blue moon) because it never fails to make me laugh and reminds me just how gullible people are. Maybe I need to pick up a copy of the Koran?
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March 16th, 2008, 08:47 AM

Psychedelic drugs and imaginary friends - that's how the religion business got started. Maybe. Probably you also need to add big wallops of ignorance, a healthy portion of wishful thinking, invented stories about angels and devils, virgin births, miracles and whatever other nonsense latecomers to the game like the Mormons and Jos Smith can add to the concotion and there you have it - a fully developed myth system to control society, fleece the sheep and keep them subservient.

It's the biggest fraud/get rich quick scheme ever created!
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March 16th, 2008, 12:28 PM

Quoting mrgrumpy
Psychedelic drugs and imaginary friends - that's how the religion business got started. Maybe. Probably you also need to add big wallops of ignorance, a healthy portion of wishful thinking, invented stories about angels and devils, virgin births, miracles and whatever other nonsense latecomers to the game like the Mormons and Jos Smith can add to the concotion and there you have it - a fully developed myth system to control society, fleece the sheep and keep them subservient.

It's the biggest fraud/get rich quick scheme ever created!
This is in the Quran 3: 176
وَلاَ يَحْزُنكَ الَّذِينَ يُسَارِعُونَ فِي الْكُفْرِ إِنَّهُمْ لَن يَضُرُّواْ اللّهَ شَيْئاً يُرِيدُ اللّهُ أَلاَّ يَجْعَلَ لَهُمْ حَظًّا فِي الآخِرَةِ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ
The explanation: ([O Mohammed] let not these grieve you, who rush headlong into unbelief:

Not the least harm will they do to [the religion of] God:

God's plan is that He will not give them any portion in the Hereafter [: in Paradise];

and they will have a painful chastisement [after their death.] )


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God does not like to give them any portion in the Garden, because they are wrong-doers who wrong people and trespass their rights; and the wrong-doer will have no place in Paradise.

God does not guide the wrong-doer; so that he will come in the next life as an atheist, or associating others with God in the worship, or as a disbeliever in the apostles; so he will deserve Hell, and no one can intercede for his behalf, and will go to Hell without judgment.

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March 16th, 2008, 05:34 PM

Quoting eanassir
This is in the Quran 3: 176


وَلاَ يَحْزُنكَ الَّذِينَ يُسَارِعُونَ فِي الْكُفْرِ إِنَّهُمْ لَن يَضُرُّواْ اللّهَ شَيْئاً يُرِيدُ اللّهُ أَلاَّ يَجْعَلَ لَهُمْ حَظًّا فِي الآخِرَةِ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ

The explanation: ([O Mohammed] let not these grieve you, who rush headlong into unbelief:

Not the least harm will they do to [the religion of] God:

God's plan is that He will not give them any portion in the Hereafter [: in Paradise];

and they will have a painful chastisement [after their death.] )


Comment:
God does not like to give them any portion in the Garden, because they are wrong-doers who wrong people and trespass their rights; and the wrong-doer will have no place in Paradise.

God does not guide the wrong-doer; so that he will come in the next life as an atheist, or associating others with God in the worship, or as a disbeliever in the apostles; so he will deserve Hell, and no one can intercede for his behalf, and will go to Hell without judgment.

rubbish and lies- deluded fairytales based on the ranting of a bunch of deluded drug addicts
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