Genius
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March 26th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Oh, do you ever post on GLP?
Today, 10:14 AM
It says they weren't naked, they wore linen clothes. It is your imagination, and the authors, that have the cloths coming off.
Teaching is turned into a 'physical act', the way Jesus taught was to tell parables. Teaching would be like what Luke 19 covers.
When it is said that 'he wants to be with Him' it means just the same as this verse does, to travel along with the group that was with Jesus.
Lu:18:43:
And immediately he received his sight,
and followed him,
glorifying God:
and all the people,
when they saw it,
gave praise unto God.
Is the author gay? It seems he is very determined to twist the words to suit his conclusion.
Does this mean (using text not found in the 'official book) I can now start using Enoch to support a version of the end-times. It might have a lot of people saying "Oh, fuk." and then the subject would be put to rest.
Oh, do you ever post on GLP?
Today, 10:14 AM
Quoting mrgrumpy "My point was that Jesus is not recorded as saying much of anything about human sexuality or expressions of it, those are later accretions by Paul and others who never met him. There's very little information in Scripture about Jesus' personal life before he became an itinerant preacher. "
I guess it depends on which myths/fables get into publication, and which do not.
http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/newtestament/id5.html
Why did your link take sooo long to get to the point?I guess it depends on which myths/fables get into publication, and which do not.
http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/newtestament/id5.html
It says they weren't naked, they wore linen clothes. It is your imagination, and the authors, that have the cloths coming off.
Teaching is turned into a 'physical act', the way Jesus taught was to tell parables. Teaching would be like what Luke 19 covers.
When it is said that 'he wants to be with Him' it means just the same as this verse does, to travel along with the group that was with Jesus.
Lu:18:43:
And immediately he received his sight,
and followed him,
glorifying God:
and all the people,
when they saw it,
gave praise unto God.
Is the author gay? It seems he is very determined to twist the words to suit his conclusion.
Does this mean (using text not found in the 'official book) I can now start using Enoch to support a version of the end-times. It might have a lot of people saying "Oh, fuk." and then the subject would be put to rest.
Time Out
Posts: 360 
Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
March 26th, 2008, 02:44 PM
"Is the author gay? It seems he is very determined to twist the words to suit his conclusion."
Isn't that the specialty of religionists who can make the Book of Myths say anything they want?
"Men create Gods after their own image, not only with regard to their form, but with regard to their mode of life."
Aristotle
"Is the author gay? It seems he is very determined to twist the words to suit his conclusion."
Isn't that the specialty of religionists who can make the Book of Myths say anything they want?
"Men create Gods after their own image, not only with regard to their form, but with regard to their mode of life."
Aristotle
Time Out
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Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
March 27th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Let's not quibble over your pleadings to the Almighty about your soon-to-be-toast Dodge transmission or your slightly less than ecstatic love life.
Let's leave aside the childish yearnings that that the cute girl in English class will notice you, or Daddy will cough up an allowance increase...
Or even that poor, sick, alcoholic 79 year old auntie might live long enough to include your wretched self in her meagre Will.
Let's ask how the Almighty answered the prayers of MILLIONS of sons and daughters of the first children of Abraham when they were being loaded on rail cars for the concentration camps in Germany and Poland and Czechoslovakia.
Did he prevent their slaughter? Ease their torment? Save even children from torture and extermination? Where was their 'protector and solace' when they needed him most?
He was were he is today - silent, invisble and powerless. And completely deaf to the prayers of his children.
Non-existent.
Let's not quibble over your pleadings to the Almighty about your soon-to-be-toast Dodge transmission or your slightly less than ecstatic love life.
Let's leave aside the childish yearnings that that the cute girl in English class will notice you, or Daddy will cough up an allowance increase...
Or even that poor, sick, alcoholic 79 year old auntie might live long enough to include your wretched self in her meagre Will.
Let's ask how the Almighty answered the prayers of MILLIONS of sons and daughters of the first children of Abraham when they were being loaded on rail cars for the concentration camps in Germany and Poland and Czechoslovakia.
Did he prevent their slaughter? Ease their torment? Save even children from torture and extermination? Where was their 'protector and solace' when they needed him most?
He was were he is today - silent, invisble and powerless. And completely deaf to the prayers of his children.
Non-existent.
Time Out
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Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
March 28th, 2008, 04:03 AM
And there sure aren't any answers forthcoming either.
Quoting gerryh
For someone that doesn't believe in "God", you sure ask a hell of alot of questions about why he did or didn't do something.
And there sure aren't any answers forthcoming either.
Genius
Posts: 785
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 28th, 2008, 09:00 AM
Are those questions you really asked God?
You do know that Israel is in exile don't you? Protection isn't available when you are made desolate from God. Shouldn't you be asking the 'West' why they refused to allow those trains to travel in their direction even thought the offer was made?
Who do you think gets put onto trains after what was basically a coup by Hitler. It's more than common to paint a picture of families that are no more than 'bakers' and 'tailers', reality puts it as who could be a threat to the 'new state'. The ones who were the string pullers for the old regime.
If America went into a revolt, who would be rounded up? People from the ghettos or the current power-brokers. That would include all the lobbiests, many of who happen to be Jewish these days, the media bosses, many of which happen to be Jewish these days, the high-rollers in the financial sector, many of which happen to be Jewish these days. You don't take just the bread-winners, you take the whole family. If those train-loads of people were offered to Canada, should we accept them knowing full well as soon as they are off the trains they will go right back doing what they were doing before being rounded up.
The Jews still haven't learned that when put into exile it is best to keep a low-profile, then you don't need God's protection as much as when you start (interfering is the best word because they do it behind the scenes) in the affairs of another Nation (exile means without a Nation) Who wants a people (without a God) that got kicked out of their own country running the affairs of any country?
Now were Jews the only ones rounded up.
Are those questions you really asked God?
You do know that Israel is in exile don't you? Protection isn't available when you are made desolate from God. Shouldn't you be asking the 'West' why they refused to allow those trains to travel in their direction even thought the offer was made?
Who do you think gets put onto trains after what was basically a coup by Hitler. It's more than common to paint a picture of families that are no more than 'bakers' and 'tailers', reality puts it as who could be a threat to the 'new state'. The ones who were the string pullers for the old regime.
If America went into a revolt, who would be rounded up? People from the ghettos or the current power-brokers. That would include all the lobbiests, many of who happen to be Jewish these days, the media bosses, many of which happen to be Jewish these days, the high-rollers in the financial sector, many of which happen to be Jewish these days. You don't take just the bread-winners, you take the whole family. If those train-loads of people were offered to Canada, should we accept them knowing full well as soon as they are off the trains they will go right back doing what they were doing before being rounded up.
The Jews still haven't learned that when put into exile it is best to keep a low-profile, then you don't need God's protection as much as when you start (interfering is the best word because they do it behind the scenes) in the affairs of another Nation (exile means without a Nation) Who wants a people (without a God) that got kicked out of their own country running the affairs of any country?
Now were Jews the only ones rounded up.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
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Location: Saint John, N.B.
Location: Saint John, N.B.
March 28th, 2008, 09:18 AM
The Jews made up 60% of those "rounded up" for slaughter..........Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, the physically handicapped, the mentally handicapped, Russian POWs, the politically unreliable, and on and on, ALL TOGETHER, made up the other 40%
Jewish communities have always had a tendency to put an emphasis on education and achievement (those BASTARDS!) In 1893, less than 1% of Germans were Jewish, but 31% of the richest men were Jews, and by the 1930s, one in 9 German doctors was a Jew, and one in 6 lawyers. (The War of the World......by Niall Ferguson, pp31-35)
So anti-Semitism was based largely on the jealousy of under-achievers......add to that the ancient view of Jews as "Christ killers" (conveniently forgetting the Romans, and the fact Christ was a Jew), the old Jewish trade of money-lending (who is more hated than bankers?), throw in the blood libel and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, add migration of Jews fleeing the pogroms of eastern Europe............stir in increasing mixing of cultures and inter-marriage......and you have a recipe for genocide.
Make no mistake about it.....it was an attempt to eliminate Jews from first Europe, then the world. It was GENOCIDE, not political murder.
Quoting MHz
How wrong can you be........
Are those questions you really asked God?
You do know that Israel is in exile don't you? Protection isn't available when you are made desolate from God. Shouldn't you be asking the 'West' why they refused to allow those trains to travel in their direction even thought the offer was made?
Who do you think gets put onto trains after what was basically a coup by Hitler. It's more than common to paint a picture of families that are no more than 'bakers' and 'tailers', reality puts it as who could be a threat to the 'new state'. The ones who were the string pullers for the old regime.
If America went into a revolt, who would be rounded up? People from the ghettos or the current power-brokers. That would include all the lobbiests, many of who happen to be Jewish these days, the media bosses, many of which happen to be Jewish these days, the high-rollers in the financial sector, many of which happen to be Jewish these days. You don't take just the bread-winners, you take the whole family. If those train-loads of people were offered to Canada, should we accept them knowing full well as soon as they are off the trains they will go right back doing what they were doing before being rounded up.
The Jews still haven't learned that when put into exile it is best to keep a low-profile, then you don't need God's protection as much as when you start (interfering is the best word because they do it behind the scenes) in the affairs of another Nation (exile means without a Nation) Who wants a people (without a God) that got kicked out of their own country running the affairs of any country?
Now were Jews the only ones rounded up.
You do know that Israel is in exile don't you? Protection isn't available when you are made desolate from God. Shouldn't you be asking the 'West' why they refused to allow those trains to travel in their direction even thought the offer was made?
Who do you think gets put onto trains after what was basically a coup by Hitler. It's more than common to paint a picture of families that are no more than 'bakers' and 'tailers', reality puts it as who could be a threat to the 'new state'. The ones who were the string pullers for the old regime.
If America went into a revolt, who would be rounded up? People from the ghettos or the current power-brokers. That would include all the lobbiests, many of who happen to be Jewish these days, the media bosses, many of which happen to be Jewish these days, the high-rollers in the financial sector, many of which happen to be Jewish these days. You don't take just the bread-winners, you take the whole family. If those train-loads of people were offered to Canada, should we accept them knowing full well as soon as they are off the trains they will go right back doing what they were doing before being rounded up.
The Jews still haven't learned that when put into exile it is best to keep a low-profile, then you don't need God's protection as much as when you start (interfering is the best word because they do it behind the scenes) in the affairs of another Nation (exile means without a Nation) Who wants a people (without a God) that got kicked out of their own country running the affairs of any country?
Now were Jews the only ones rounded up.
The Jews made up 60% of those "rounded up" for slaughter..........Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, the physically handicapped, the mentally handicapped, Russian POWs, the politically unreliable, and on and on, ALL TOGETHER, made up the other 40%
Jewish communities have always had a tendency to put an emphasis on education and achievement (those BASTARDS!) In 1893, less than 1% of Germans were Jewish, but 31% of the richest men were Jews, and by the 1930s, one in 9 German doctors was a Jew, and one in 6 lawyers. (The War of the World......by Niall Ferguson, pp31-35)
So anti-Semitism was based largely on the jealousy of under-achievers......add to that the ancient view of Jews as "Christ killers" (conveniently forgetting the Romans, and the fact Christ was a Jew), the old Jewish trade of money-lending (who is more hated than bankers?), throw in the blood libel and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, add migration of Jews fleeing the pogroms of eastern Europe............stir in increasing mixing of cultures and inter-marriage......and you have a recipe for genocide.
Make no mistake about it.....it was an attempt to eliminate Jews from first Europe, then the world. It was GENOCIDE, not political murder.
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,103
March 28th, 2008, 09:35 AM
Colpy
It was indeed genocide, but genocide from a perspective of prejudice and hatred that one might reasonably think would be the lesson learned. It's striking that this terrible lessons hasn't been learned and we continue to practice it in various forms..including the Israeli actions against Palestine. One might think that the Jewish people would have greater understanding of what hatred and being displaced from your home would mean..but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Will the world ever hear enough of this driving guilt into the hearts and minds of anyone opposing the actions of many many Israelis as though enough acknowledgement hasn't been made and the reason why no one can criticize the actions of but another small nation among many?
Israel isn't anything special, or at least any more special to the world than are the sentiments of any nationalist extremeist. When can the actions of the Israeli government finally be assessed without the overarching parry of "Your criticisms of Israel simply demonstrate your anti-Semitism and rank you among the monsters who practiced genocide during the Second World War....
Isn't it long past the time when excuses and emotional blackmail should form the basis for diverting attention from the wrong-doing of Israel?
Colpy
It was indeed genocide, but genocide from a perspective of prejudice and hatred that one might reasonably think would be the lesson learned. It's striking that this terrible lessons hasn't been learned and we continue to practice it in various forms..including the Israeli actions against Palestine. One might think that the Jewish people would have greater understanding of what hatred and being displaced from your home would mean..but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Will the world ever hear enough of this driving guilt into the hearts and minds of anyone opposing the actions of many many Israelis as though enough acknowledgement hasn't been made and the reason why no one can criticize the actions of but another small nation among many?
Israel isn't anything special, or at least any more special to the world than are the sentiments of any nationalist extremeist. When can the actions of the Israeli government finally be assessed without the overarching parry of "Your criticisms of Israel simply demonstrate your anti-Semitism and rank you among the monsters who practiced genocide during the Second World War....
Isn't it long past the time when excuses and emotional blackmail should form the basis for diverting attention from the wrong-doing of Israel?
Genius
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Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 28th, 2008, 09:51 AM
Why did the 'west' refuse to take them in?
Are you saying not one single Jew was involved in anything underhanded or illegal?
If bankers and newspapers editors of lobbiests (yes even in those times) were being rounded up, so what. If brothels and nightclub owners were being rounded up, so what. (actually the brothels would probably just go through a management change).
The US has followed the same example in any proxy war they caused. Get a few in power with guns and then kill all the 'rebels' of anybody in a station of influence and put your own person in there.
Nobody relates any disappearances in South America as being the same as being put onto trains.
The trains didn't stop all American contact with Germany, had the ones charged with treason been dealth with the same manner, all his relatives would have gone to jail with him. Think that would have changed anything over the last 50 years. Your relatives (the ones that know the most about you) would stop you from doing things that would fuk up their life.
When the Jews lost the temple and the city, they should have conceded. The temple was lost when they didn't recognize that God was with them (events after the cross). They lost the city because they were causing revolts. When you pull somebody over a national boundary their attitude comes with them.
Since they haven't yet been gathered again they will do the same thing if they are in control of a Nation. If God had been behind their gathering together He would be protecting them, they wouldn't need any guns or walls.
Why did the 'west' refuse to take them in?
Are you saying not one single Jew was involved in anything underhanded or illegal?
If bankers and newspapers editors of lobbiests (yes even in those times) were being rounded up, so what. If brothels and nightclub owners were being rounded up, so what. (actually the brothels would probably just go through a management change).
The US has followed the same example in any proxy war they caused. Get a few in power with guns and then kill all the 'rebels' of anybody in a station of influence and put your own person in there.
Nobody relates any disappearances in South America as being the same as being put onto trains.
The trains didn't stop all American contact with Germany, had the ones charged with treason been dealth with the same manner, all his relatives would have gone to jail with him. Think that would have changed anything over the last 50 years. Your relatives (the ones that know the most about you) would stop you from doing things that would fuk up their life.
When the Jews lost the temple and the city, they should have conceded. The temple was lost when they didn't recognize that God was with them (events after the cross). They lost the city because they were causing revolts. When you pull somebody over a national boundary their attitude comes with them.
Since they haven't yet been gathered again they will do the same thing if they are in control of a Nation. If God had been behind their gathering together He would be protecting them, they wouldn't need any guns or walls.
Mighty Intellect
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Location: Northern California
Location: Northern California
March 28th, 2008, 10:04 AM
My dear friends, the very one's we persecuted, Jews; meaning mankind as a whole, are the very ones responsible for our salvation!
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
We speak when we don't understand the truth, thereby making fools of ourselves.
Speak no more evil of the plight of the Jews unless you intend to be their friend for the suffering they have to endure on your behalf!
Peace>>>AJ
My dear friends, the very one's we persecuted, Jews; meaning mankind as a whole, are the very ones responsible for our salvation!
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
We speak when we don't understand the truth, thereby making fools of ourselves.
Speak no more evil of the plight of the Jews unless you intend to be their friend for the suffering they have to endure on your behalf!
Peace>>>AJ
Genius
Posts: 785
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 28th, 2008, 10:25 AM
Isn't that about the same time they had control of just about all the brothels? I can find you a link. Was that the seed money, did they still have control of the brothels in 1930's?
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/10whsla.htm
At the end of the 19th and beginning of the twentieth century, Jews were deeply involved in what was popularly called "white slavery": international prostitution rings. "White slavery," notes scholar Albert Lindemann, "was a concern of Jewish leaders throughout the world, who recognized it as a special problem." [LINDEMANN, p. 33] [Jews have also dominated the pornography and commercial sexploitation business, a trend which continues to this day -- see Mass Media section]
"Between 1880 and 1939," notes scholar Edward Bristow, "the Jews played a conspicuous role in 'white slavery,' as the commercial prostitution of that era was dramatically called. Not only was this Jewish participation conspicuous, it was historically unprecedented, geographically widespread, and fraught with collective political dangers." [BRISTOW, p. 1] "Jewish trafficking," says Bristow, "was anchored in brothel keeping, women freelanced or kept houses while their husbands procured ... Jewish traffickers also supplied Gentile-run houses." [BRISTOW, p. 56-57]
I doubt the Jews referred to themselves as Germans, and if they controlled alot of the wealth, that wealth should have been going to natural Germans, I assume they could also run a brothel as well as a Jew could. Jewish wealth stay with just them.
Quoting Colpy
So does the 6M mean just Jews and there were 4M more that aren't remembered? Political unreliable, would that be one that swore an oath to (fellow Jews) over any oath taken for/to a Nation. That is headed for control in the end. Does any of those 'professions and qualities' also apply to Jews?
The Jews made up 60% of those "rounded up" for slaughter..........Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, the physically handicapped, the mentally handicapped, Russian POWs, the politically unreliable, and on and on, ALL TOGETHER, made up the other 40%.
Quoting Colpy
Jews are into commerce, plain and simple. Their motto is to never pay retail for anything.
Jewish communities have always had a tendency to put an emphasis on education and achievement (those BASTARDS!) In 1893, less than 1% of Germans were Jewish, but 31% of the richest men were Jews, and by the 1930s, one in 9 German doctors was a Jew, and one in 6 lawyers. (The War of the World......by Niall Ferguson, pp31-35)
Isn't that about the same time they had control of just about all the brothels? I can find you a link. Was that the seed money, did they still have control of the brothels in 1930's?
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/10whsla.htm
At the end of the 19th and beginning of the twentieth century, Jews were deeply involved in what was popularly called "white slavery": international prostitution rings. "White slavery," notes scholar Albert Lindemann, "was a concern of Jewish leaders throughout the world, who recognized it as a special problem." [LINDEMANN, p. 33] [Jews have also dominated the pornography and commercial sexploitation business, a trend which continues to this day -- see Mass Media section]
"Between 1880 and 1939," notes scholar Edward Bristow, "the Jews played a conspicuous role in 'white slavery,' as the commercial prostitution of that era was dramatically called. Not only was this Jewish participation conspicuous, it was historically unprecedented, geographically widespread, and fraught with collective political dangers." [BRISTOW, p. 1] "Jewish trafficking," says Bristow, "was anchored in brothel keeping, women freelanced or kept houses while their husbands procured ... Jewish traffickers also supplied Gentile-run houses." [BRISTOW, p. 56-57]
Quoting Colpy
It wasn't a Roman plot to kill Jesus. The Roman's didn't plot 70AD, they just went out and did it.
So anti-Semitism was based largely on the jealousy of under-achievers......add to that the ancient view of Jews as "Christ killers" (conveniently forgetting the Romans, and the fact Christ was a Jew), the old Jewish trade of money-lending (who is more hated than bankers?), throw in the blood libel and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, add migration of Jews fleeing the pogroms of eastern Europe............stir in increasing mixing of cultures and inter-marriage......and you have a recipe for genocide.
I doubt the Jews referred to themselves as Germans, and if they controlled alot of the wealth, that wealth should have been going to natural Germans, I assume they could also run a brothel as well as a Jew could. Jewish wealth stay with just them.
Quoting Colpy
It was in Poland where all the teachers were killed, and probably all the lawyers. Using your ratio there were non-jewish people also killed, that makes it political in nature.
Make no mistake about it.....it was an attempt to eliminate Jews from first Europe, then the world. It was GENOCIDE, not political murder.
Genius
Posts: 785
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 28th, 2008, 10:28 AM
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
Quoting gerryh
You must have some Jewish roots. One post and it's pull out the 'attack the messenger card'. LOL
Hatred, rasicim, and bigotry....alive and well.
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
March 28th, 2008, 10:32 AM
Quoting MHz
It's not just gerryh. It's next to impossible to read this without thinking what he's said.
You must have some Jewish roots. One post and it's pull out the 'attack the messenger card'. LOL
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,872
Location: Northern California
Location: Northern California
March 28th, 2008, 10:35 AM
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting MHz
Cold heart?
You must have some Jewish roots. One post and it's pull out the 'attack the messenger card'. LOL
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
Peace>>>AJ
