Member
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Location: Pennsylvania
Location: Pennsylvania
March 23rd, 2008, 09:01 PM
could you please name some of these nasty people? im still not catching your drift. Preists have spread the message of our lord to native peoples and strengthened the beliefs of the majority christian population of Europe. Is any of this bad?
could you please name some of these nasty people? im still not catching your drift. Preists have spread the message of our lord to native peoples and strengthened the beliefs of the majority christian population of Europe. Is any of this bad?
Genius
Posts: 821
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 23rd, 2008, 09:02 PM
Quoting McCaulley
It also talks about their release, so it is sealed for that 1000 years but that is it. Those are the ones being offered water in Re:21.
In the end all the people who have sided with the devil throughout their lifetime and in the final battle will be cast into the pit of hell and it will be sealed for ever. That is from the book of Revelations
Genius
Posts: 821
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 23rd, 2008, 09:11 PM
Quoting McCaulley
They weren't always as kind and gentle towards people as they could have been.
could you please name some of these nasty people? im still not catching your drift. Preists have spread the message of our lord to native peoples and strengthened the beliefs of the majority christian population of Europe. Is any of this bad?
Member
Posts: 102
Location: Pennsylvania
Location: Pennsylvania
March 23rd, 2008, 09:18 PM
Okay, i agree with you there, there were evil preists that tried to force their religions upon native americans among others. Those people were wrong and i will not try to defend their evil. Also, Christians did some cruel things to each other, Northern Ireland and the European wars of religion for example it wasnt just directed against non=believers
Okay, i agree with you there, there were evil preists that tried to force their religions upon native americans among others. Those people were wrong and i will not try to defend their evil. Also, Christians did some cruel things to each other, Northern Ireland and the European wars of religion for example it wasnt just directed against non=believers
Genius
Posts: 821
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
March 23rd, 2008, 09:19 PM
Re:21:6: And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Re:21:7: He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Sin after this point is the lake with no hope of repenting. That is why Satan's sin in Genesis carried the penalty of the lake. Our sins in the flesh are the ones being listed, they are the ones Angels have always been under.
Quoting McCaulley
That is for those who have do those things after having gone through the previous few verses.
Revalation 21 states "The fearful, unbelieving, and the abomidable, and murderers, and *****mongers,and sorcerers, and idolators, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone(hell)
Re:21:6: And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Re:21:7: He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Sin after this point is the lake with no hope of repenting. That is why Satan's sin in Genesis carried the penalty of the lake. Our sins in the flesh are the ones being listed, they are the ones Angels have always been under.
Member
Posts: 102
Location: Pennsylvania
Location: Pennsylvania
March 23rd, 2008, 09:23 PM
Yes, it is saying that we all sin and in life we have the chance of repentance and the part about giving water to those who thirst he is talking of the bible that will quench your thirst eternally, he does not mean literally he means that by reading his word and following it you will 'thirst no more' and get into heaven
Yes, it is saying that we all sin and in life we have the chance of repentance and the part about giving water to those who thirst he is talking of the bible that will quench your thirst eternally, he does not mean literally he means that by reading his word and following it you will 'thirst no more' and get into heaven
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 2,650 
Location: Vancouver Island
Location: Vancouver Island
March 23rd, 2008, 09:31 PM
never been done. It is all a believe system, not a proven system.
Quoting McCaulley
No one will have to disprove that god exists, until someone proves that he does, that has
Okay, ive calmed down and i just want you to present me with some facts that will disprove what i have spent some time trying to prove. You have still not said anything to disprove that God exists so if i haven't proven anything and you haven't proven anything then neither of us have proven we are right although i,ve tried. I would now like to see some proof from your side
never been done. It is all a believe system, not a proven system.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,604
March 23rd, 2008, 10:41 PM
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/WestTech/evili.htm
Some reading for people about who built the reputation of the Roman Catholic Church and others…..
Nasty folk who performed acts of cruelty and murder in the name of ‘god’.
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/WestTech/evili.htm
Some reading for people about who built the reputation of the Roman Catholic Church and others…..
Nasty folk who performed acts of cruelty and murder in the name of ‘god’.
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,902
Location: Northern California
Location: Northern California
March 23rd, 2008, 11:15 PM
I say that in all kindness because I have an understanding unlike you've heard the likes before.
I treat believer and unbeliever alike as per my understanding, of which religion segregates.
So fair warning my good fellow.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting McCaulley
You may agree with me on some points McCaulley, but I know you will disagree with me on many other things.
And thank you AJ i agree with you
I say that in all kindness because I have an understanding unlike you've heard the likes before.
I treat believer and unbeliever alike as per my understanding, of which religion segregates.
So fair warning my good fellow.
Peace>>>AJ
Time Out
Posts: 360 
Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
Location: The desolate but charming outback of the prairies.
March 24th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Quoting McCaulley
Well, there ya go then.
Okay, i agree with you there, there were evil preists that tried to force their religions upon native americans among others. Those people were wrong and i will not try to defend their evil. Also, Christians did some cruel things to each other, Northern Ireland and the European wars of religion for example it wasnt just directed against non=believers
Member
Posts: 102
Location: Pennsylvania
Location: Pennsylvania
March 24th, 2008, 07:18 PM
no, I believe you should treat all people equal, believer and unbeliever, we are all the children of God and so we should treat each other with respect, i do not believe people should be killed in the name of God unless they represent a direct threat to Christians
no, I believe you should treat all people equal, believer and unbeliever, we are all the children of God and so we should treat each other with respect, i do not believe people should be killed in the name of God unless they represent a direct threat to Christians
Genius
Posts: 969
Location: BC
Location: BC
March 24th, 2008, 09:51 PM
It only took the death of an estimated 110,000,000 people for "loving" Christians to figure out murder is bad? I thought that book they carried around mentioned something about killing?
And some did cruel things? Your kidding right?
Quoting McCaulley
If there was an award for understatement of the year on CC I'd nominate this post.
Okay, i agree with you there, there were evil preists that tried to force their religions upon native americans among others. Those people were wrong and i will not try to defend their evil. Also, Christians did some cruel things to each other, Northern Ireland and the European wars of religion for example it wasnt just directed against non=believers
It only took the death of an estimated 110,000,000 people for "loving" Christians to figure out murder is bad? I thought that book they carried around mentioned something about killing?
And some did cruel things? Your kidding right?
