Leaving Islam (Trailer)

[B00Mer]

Leaving Islam (Trailer)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=blHgnttgTWo

Around the world, people who leave the faith of Islam face state persecution, imprisonment, torture, and even execution, as well as violence, death threats, and ostracization from their own communities.

Many ex-Muslims risk so-called honor killing, forced marriage, kidnap, and communal violence at the hands of their families for "bringing shame" on their community. In Western countries, ex-Muslims are often thrown out of the family and face isolation and exclusion.

VICE News has gained access to an underground network in London who help rescue ex-Muslims. We follow the network as it helps a young atheist escape Saudi Arabia and Turkey, and provides support and shelter for young British people on the run from their families and communities.

Watch "The Kohistan Story: Killing for Honor"

Read "Killing for Honor: How Reputation Became Life and Death Currency in Pakistan"

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Note to selfsame, you should leave Islam.. it's a backward Ideology stuck in the dark ages.

Nice to see people with courage.

 

[MHz]

Persecution and exile?? Judge Goldstone to the stand please if you want a very good example of what that looks like when your people are pulling on the ropes.

Got something you would like to add gerr?

 

[B00Mer]

Persecution and exile?? Judge Goldstone to the stand please if you want a very good example of what that looks like when your people are pulling on the ropes.

Oh another Jewish attack... you're showing your true colours tonight..

 

[MHz]

I rather admired Judge Goldstone, not too impressed with the Jews who did the smear job on him, even if you take them to be heroes. Barring him from attending a Bar Mitzvah, how low can you go?

 

[selfsame]

Leaving Islam (Trailer)

An Arabic poetry:

If I am dispraised by someone low ... this is a testimony that I am high​

 

[B00Mer]

An Arabic poetry:

If I am dispraised by someone low ... this is a testimony that I am high​

Yeah your high alright... probably on khat.

 

[Twila]

I was just about to post this video in it's on thread. This treatment of muslims leaving islam is the same treatment slaves suffer. Proof that they are in fact slaves to their religion. Those that manage to leave are very very brave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1lnxUXWGgE&app=desktop

If you have to use violence to promote your thinking, then your thinking is wrong.

 

[selfsame]

Quran 2: 56, which means:

[The Prophet – salam to him – invited some of Quraish tribesmen to convert to the Islam religion, but they said: "Abu Lahab and Abu Jah'l prevent us from believing in you, and we fear lest they should hurt us and take our wealth if we follow you; this is the meaning of His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 28: 57, which means:
(They said: " If we follow the guidance together with you [Mohammed], we shall be kidnapped out of our land.")
Therefore, this aya was revealed to answer their words:]

256. [There can be] no compulsion in religion [: none can compel you to be disbelievers a;]

the correct way [of the Islam] has been made distinct from the error [of the association and idolatry.] b

And anyone [of you] rejects [Abu-Jahl] the tyrant c, and believes in God [Alone, joining no associates with Him,] has indeed grasped a most firm handle [of ship] which is never detachable, [so he will not be drowned and will be safe of Hell if he follows the religion of the Islam.] d

God is All-Hearing [of your words], All-Knowing [of your intentions, O idolaters!]
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a i.e. none has any authority or control to compel you to keep up to your religion.

b i.e. after the correctness and truth of the Islam religion has become distinct to you from the deception and error of your religion of the disbelief, idolatry and association.

c and does not obey him.

d i.e. this is a parable about one who is saved from destruction; i.e. like one drowned in the sea, and he sees a ship coming towards him, with many handles attached to it, so if he holds one of these handles, and it is firm, strong and is not detachable, he will be saved by it from the drowning.

So likewise, anyone holds fast with the Islam religion, will be safe of Hell and will go to Paradise [in heaven.]

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

 

[Ludlow]

Quran 2: 56, which means:

[The Prophet – salam to him – invited some of Quraish tribesmen to convert to the Islam religion, but they said: "Abu Lahab and Abu Jah'l prevent us from believing in you, and we fear lest they should hurt us and take our wealth if we follow you; this is the meaning of His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 28: 57, which means:
(They said: " If we follow the guidance together with you [Mohammed], we shall be kidnapped out of our land.")
Therefore, this aya was revealed to answer their words:]

256. [There can be] no compulsion in religion [: none can compel you to be disbelievers a;]

the correct way [of the Islam] has been made distinct from the error [of the association and idolatry.] b

And anyone [of you] rejects [Abu-Jahl] the tyrant c, and believes in God [Alone, joining no associates with Him,] has indeed grasped a most firm handle [of ship] which is never detachable, [so he will not be drowned and will be safe of Hell if he follows the religion of the Islam.] d

God is All-Hearing [of your words], All-Knowing [of your intentions, O idolaters!]
.....................................................................
a i.e. none has any authority or control to compel you to keep up to your religion.

b i.e. after the correctness and truth of the Islam religion has become distinct to you from the deception and error of your religion of the disbelief, idolatry and association.

c and does not obey him.

d i.e. this is a parable about one who is saved from destruction; i.e. like one drowned in the sea, and he sees a ship coming towards him, with many handles attached to it, so if he holds one of these handles, and it is firm, strong and is not detachable, he will be saved by it from the drowning.

So likewise, anyone holds fast with the Islam religion, will be safe of Hell and will go to Paradise [in heaven.]

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

The best thing that could happen to anyone is to abandon the guilt and fear and emotional slavery of religion especially Islam and especially the Ladies. Your poison is a blight on humanity.

 

[DaSleeper]

Quran 2: 56,

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

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[MHz]

I was just about to post this video in it's on thread. This treatment of muslims leaving islam is the same treatment slaves suffer. Proof that they are in fact slaves to their religion. Those that manage to leave are very very brave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1lnxUXWGgE&app=desktop

If you have to use violence to promote your thinking, then your thinking is wrong.

Ever notice that the radical Muslims are the only groups that get the funding and weapons from the US and their Allies??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
1957–1970

After removing the populist regime of Mohammad Mosaddeq (which was originally focused on nationalizing Iran's oil industry but also set out to weaken the Shah's power) from power on 19 August 1953, in a coup, the monarch, Mohammad Reza Shah, established an intelligence service with police powers. The Shah's goal was[6] to strengthen his regime by placing political opponents under surveillance and repress dissident movements. According to Encyclopædia Iranica:

A U.S. Army colonel working for the CIA was sent to Persia in September 1953 to work with General Teymur Bakhtiar, who was appointed military governor of Tehran in December 1953 and immediately began to assemble the nucleus of a new intelligence organization. The U.S. Army colonel worked closely with Bakhtīār and his subordinates, commanding the new intelligence organization and training its members in basic intelligence techniques, such as surveillance and interrogation methods, the use of intelligence networks, and organizational security. This organization was the first modern, effective intelligence service to operate in Persia. Its main achievement occurred in September 1954, when it discovered and destroyed a large communist Tudeh Party network that had been established in the Persian armed forces[7][8]
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In March 1955, the Army colonel was "replaced with a more permanent team of five career CIA officers, including specialists in covert operations, intelligence analysis, and counterintelligence, including Major General Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf who "trained virtually all of the first generation of SAVAK personnel." In 1956 this agency was reorganized and given the name Sazeman-e Ettela'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (SAVAK).[8] These in turn were replaced by SAVAK’s own instructors in 1965.[9][10]
SAVAK had the power to censor the media, screen applicants for government jobs, "and according to reliable Western source,[11] use all means necessary, including torture, to hunt down dissidents".[12] After 1963, the Shah expanded his security organizations, including SAVAK, which grew to over 5,300 full-time agents and a large but unknown number of part-time informers.[12]
In 1961 the Iranian authorities dismissed the agency's first director, General Teymur Bakhtiar;[13] he later became a political dissident. In 1970 SAVAK agents assassinated him, disguising the deed as an accident.[citation needed]
General Hassan Pakravan, director of SAVAK from 1961 to 1966,[13] had an almost benevolent reputation, for example dining with the Ayatollah Khomeini while Khomeini was under house arrest on a weekly basis, and later intervened to prevent Khomeini's execution on the grounds it would "anger the common people of Iran".[14] After the Iranian Revolution, however, Pakravan was among the first of the Shah's officials to be executed by the Khomeini regime.
Pakravan was replaced in 1966 by General Nematollah Nassiri, a close associate of the Shah, and the service was reorganized and became increasingly active in the face of rising Shia and communist militancy and political unrest.

 

[DaSleeper]

 

[Twila]

Ever notice that the radical Muslims are the only groups that get the funding and weapons from the US and their Allies??

no, because they're not the only ones who've been "funded" by corporations, people with corporate jobs etc.

What I have noticed is that there are many more radical muslims running around waving weapons then any other single religious or non religious group. Even if the US and allies were funding them, the us gov't and allies are not as many as those who're radicalized and running around cutting off heads.

so...if christians were being funded and cutting off heads I'd feel for them as I do about islam.

if christians were killing each other because of differences in opinion about their ridiculous book, I'd feel about them as I do islam.

if christian worked towards creating an law changes to satisfy their desire to beat, rape, torture, kill, behead, honor kill, kidnap and kill and other such acts of terrorism I'd feel for them as I do about islam.

 

[MHz]

no, because they're not the only ones who've been "funded" by corporations, people with corporate jobs etc.

Try CIA supported. Let's start with your assessment of the 'School of the Americas' and how that only brought good will to the people of Central and South America, the majority were Catholics and no Muslims in sight yet the torment of the people was exactly the same. You explanation is what??

What I have noticed is that there are many more radical muslims running around waving weapons then any other single religious or non religious group. Even if the US and allies were funding them, the us gov't and allies are not as many as those who're radicalized and running around cutting off heads.

What I have noticed is it is the US and other pro christian nations that supply the weapons and an agenda goes with the deal. By bombing alone about 4M Muslims have been 'beheaded' since 9/11, take that number from the Gulf War I and the numbers climb quite a bit higher and civilians are the majority who died.
You must have a few recollections of some posts that would support that the Irish were having a love fest between Catholics and Protestants and the British Army was just there to keep score. How did the Muslims start that war?

so...if christians were being funded and cutting off heads I'd feel for them as I do about islam.

So far 4M has been suggested as how many Muslims have been killed by the Christians so you don't have a problem with that aspect it would seem.

if christians were killing each other because of differences in opinion about their ridiculous book, I'd feel about them as I do islam.

The Ireland reference addresses this aspect.

if christian worked towards creating an law changes to satisfy their desire to beat, rape, torture, kill, behead, honor kill, kidnap and kill and other such acts of terrorism I'd feel for them as I do about islam.

We used 9/11 as an excuse to start an endless war against Muslims, by now you must have seen some vids that put the official version into question let alone Saddam and the WMD lie as both being lies that allowed the Christians to fight a immoral and illegal war against a different religious group rather than prevent the liars in their own ranks from getting that sort of power. They lied to you is not an excuse for you to believe what they tell you. You believe it after you have verified they have presented proven facts.

 

[Ludlow]

I rather admired Judge Goldstone, not too impressed with the Jews who did the smear job on him, even if you take them to be heroes. Barring him from attending a Bar Mitzvah, how low can you go?

How low can you go,,,do the limbo rock

 

[MHz]

Since when is the truth a low blow?

Last week the Writing Rights blog reported that the South African Zionist Federation had prohibited Goldstone from attending his grandson's bar-mitzvah.

It said recent negotiations between the federation, the Sandton synagogue at which the ceremony will take place, and the bar-mitzvah boy's family concluded that the judge will be banned from attending the event.

A synagogue official who refused to be named confirmed in an interview with Ynet that the bar-mitzvah would take place there and that Goldstone would not be in attendance.

"We only suggested that he refrain from coming in order to prevent a scene. No one forced him not to come," the official said. "If he arrives extensive security measures will have to be taken, and no one wants that. Apparently he doesn't want a scene at his grandson's bar-mitzvah either. There are many people who don't want him there, and if he comes it could cause problems, as people are very angry with him."

Rabbi Shalom Bacher, a native of Johannesburg and the chief rabbi of the Blairgowrie Synagogue in the city, told Ynet, "The vast majority of Jews here don't like him, and are very angry with him. The vast majority here are Zionists, love Israel unconditionally, and have excellent ties with Israel that go beyond politics."
Judge Goldstone to attend grandson's bar mitzvah - Israel News, Ynetnews

 

[damngrumpy]

I swear to Christ Selfsame must have a quarter slot in his head he sees something
and fires off a series of Islamic quotes that don't stop until he runs our of verbs and
letters.
Islam has a long way to go on the path of darkness before there is enough light in the
black hole for anything intelligent to contemplate its thick skull of negativism and dogma