God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?

French Patriot

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God does not follow the firstprinciple of morality. Why not?



The first principle ormorality is Harm/care of children. It is highlighted by the trait ofcompassion.



God ignores this throughoutthe bible by killing many of the weakest, most vulnerable and innocent, ---- childrenand babies.



God is showing a cowardlytrait that contains no compassion or morality.



Children cannot be guilty ofsin yet God kills them.



Yet those of the Abrahamiccults, Christians, Muslims and other believers, do not reject this cowardly andimmoral God.



Why not?



Regards

DL



This clip shows the firstfive principles of morality.



http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/



This clip shows what somethink of God killing children.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI




 

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It does make you wonder why someone would choose to believe in God, and then choose to believe 'he' doesn't follow morality.

One would think that if you chose to believe in God (I'm assuming the OP meant the Christian God), you'd at least be consistent and believe the whole package.
 

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I suggest that people trying, with their limited human reason, to fathom the motives and actions of God, especially with respect to why bad things happen to good people...consider the case of Job.

I'd read the whole thing.. but especially Job 38.. in which He responds to Job's lamentations of the sorrows and hardships placed upon a good and faithful servant of God.
 
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Yeah, that's a good one. What god says there is nothing more than "I'm god, I can do what I want and I don't have to answer to you, so just shut up and take it." Just confirms the OP's argument, might makes right, and for me pretty much confirms that god's a jerk.
 

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Yeah, that's a good one. What god says there is nothing more than "I'm god, I can do what I want and I don't have to answer to you, so just shut up and take it." Just confirms the OP's argument, might makes right, and for me pretty much confirms that god's a jerk.


Of course, if your intellect is in every way equal.. or superior to that of God.. i guess you can just follow your own counsel.. and see where it leads you. ;)
 

French Patriot

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The God of the Bible, Quran, and Torah is a Tyrant, simple as that

You see 20/20.

Regards
DL

I am not the potter, but the potter's clay.

Sure but if the pot is made with a hole that leaks, God should not get angry with you for leaking.

It is called the potter taking responsibility for his own actions, but then, Christians who will try to profit from God's murder of his son and want to ride him as their scapegoat and take their responsibilities, are not used to thinking of being responsible for their own works.

Two examples.

Did God pay child support orwas he a deadbeat dad?

How was your ticket to heavenpurchased? With innocent blood?

Regards
DL
 

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To understand God is to forgive God. That spark is constant nothing disobeys the laws and lives, even a mountain or the tiniest bug experiences the wrath of nature. The ignorant suffer exceptionally. We mostly have a very corrupt and infantile vision of God here in the dead west. Santa Clause is more powerful by far in our eyes. He draws bigger crowds every year.
 

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It is a shame that the kooks like to crow about their disbeliefs on this forum!

As a Gnostic Christian I have a belief in the Godhead. As compared to your God as I have clearly shown here, his moral system is good.

You know this or you would have at least tried to defend your God's poor morals.

Regards
DL

Hey Frenchy... you'll get to ask him one day!

Not likely. I will be in heaven and he will be in hell where he belongs.

I see you cannot defend his morals either. Punch and run are all your ilk are good for.

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DL

It does make you wonder why someone would choose to believe in God, and then choose to believe 'he' doesn't follow morality.

One would think that if you chose to believe in God (I'm assuming the OP meant the Christian God), you'd at least be consistent and believe the whole package.

That is why you always hear that good old standby. God works in myterious ways.
That is how Christians deal with anything that their insane God does.

Regards
DL
 

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Of course, if your intellect is in every way equal.. or superior to that of God.. i guess you can just follow your own counsel.. and see where it leads you. ;)
I always have, and I've done okay so far. I wouldn't take that "might makes right" crap from a person, regardless of any presumed superiority, I don't see why god shouldn't be held to at least minimal standards of human decency in his dealings with us. I'd have to agree that my intellect is superior to his, but that's not really saying much because it's true of everybody, he's a fictional character. And a mightily unpleasant one too, manipulative, cranky, jealous, an ethnic cleanser, a mass murderer, a child killer...
 

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I suggest that people trying, with their limited human reason, to fathom the motives and actions of God, especially with respect to why bad things happen to good people...consider the case of Job.

I'd read the whole thing.. but especially Job 38.. in which He responds to Job's lamentations of the sorrows and hardships placed upon a good and faithful servant of God.

Oh ye. The Job story. One of my favorite examples of God's immorality.

That is the one where God makes an immoral bet with Satan, you know, the one that cannot be with God because God cannot abide with sin, and has him do all kinds of evil to him just to win a bet that he is supposed to know he will win.

Nice God that.

Who was responsible for all that evil? Satan or God?
The same God who cannot sin or do evil.

Regards
DL

Of course, if your intellect is in every way equal.. or superior to that of God.. i guess you can just follow your own counsel.. and see where it leads you. ;)

But we are equal and FMPOV superior to God.

Do we not inherit the same knowledge of good and evil and moral sense that A & E did from the tree of knowledge?
God said they did and became as Gods, knowing good and evil. God's own words that you seem to be ignoring in your zeal to remain ignorant of good morals.

Regards
DL

To understand God is to forgive God. That spark is constant nothing disobeys the laws and lives, even a mountain or the tiniest bug experiences the wrath of nature. The ignorant suffer exceptionally. We mostly have a very corrupt and infantile vision of God here in the dead west. Santa Clause is more powerful by far in our eyes. He draws bigger crowds every year.

Not surprising. He does not promise to send the vast majority of us to purposeless everlasting torture in hell.

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DL
 

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Not likely. I will be in heaven and he will be in hell where he belongs.

I see you cannot defend his morals either. Punch and run are all your ilk are good for.

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DL

Because I'd have better luck giving Theology lesson to a dog than to one of you're ilk. Bashing religion on a forum is all you're good for.

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Because I'd have better luck giving Theology lesson to a dog than to one of you're ilk. Bashing religion on a forum is all you're good for.

Regards,
ES

And crying like a baby instead of defending your God and his morals are all your good for. That is why you do not even attempt and just keep crying that someone is attacking your immoral prick of a God.

This is a debat forum fool. Not Romper Room.

Regards
DL
 

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Oh ye. The Job story. One of my favorite examples of God's immorality.

That is the one where God makes an immoral bet with Satan, you know, the one that cannot be with God because God cannot abide with sin, and has him do all kinds of evil to him just to win a bet that he is supposed to know he will win.

Nice God that.

Who was responsible for all that evil? Satan or God?
The same God who cannot sin or do evil.


But we are equal and FMPOV superior to God.

Do we not inherit the same knowledge of good and evil and moral sense that A & E did from the tree of knowledge?
God said they did and became as Gods, knowing good and evil. God's own words that you seem to be ignoring in your zeal to remain ignorant of good morals.


Spoken like a true Gnostic.. however you are not a Gnostic Christian.. which is a contradiction in terms.. you are a Gnostic Pagan. Pagans worship idols.. some made of stone.. some of ideology.


You seem to know at least that God created a paradise free from evil.. with the exception of one tree and its serpant inhabitant.. for Man. And he gave Adam and Eve Free Will to match his own freedom with theirs.

It was Man who chose the burdens of knowledge.. and imposed on himself Original Sin.. from which all of human history can be discerned. And although Man is created in the image of God, he is not God.. he is a finite creature.. which is what God was trying to transmit.. for all who are open to it reception.. in Job 38.

He also laid a path back to his Garden.. even provided a map.
 
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I think Andem has to change the cologne used for this site- Clearly it is attracting Wing Nuts.
 

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And crying like a baby instead of defending your God and his morals are all your good for. That is why you do not even attempt and just keep crying that someone is attacking your immoral prick of a God.

This is a debat forum fool. Not Romper Room.

Regards
DL

You're saying I am crying because I won't "debat" a troll?

Why do you seek absolution for your guilt in a forum such as this? If you wish to be miserable go ahead. If you have no faith that is your issue.

Besides, something tells me your stay here is short lived.

He also laid a path back to his Garden.. even provided a map.

CS... why bother. The guy is miserable. He seeks atonement for his misery and obvious shame by bashing Christians. Let him worship his Norse gods or whatever.