Early Chrisianity

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Early worship in Israel

Ariel Schalit / AP

An Israeli prisoner tasked with clearing rubble prior to construction of a new prison ward uncovered the edge of an elaborate mosaic on the floor of what may be the oldest church in the Holy Land. Archaeologists have dated the church to the third century, decades before Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the early fourth century.
The mosaic includes drawings of fish, which was an ancient Christian symbol that predated the widespread use of the cross, and three inscriptions. One tells the story of a Roman officer who contributed towards paving the floor, the second is dedicated to the memory of four women, and the third mentions a woman who contributed a table, or altar, to God Jesus Christ, according to the Israel Antiquities Authority.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

There is a striking resemblance to the symbol of Pisces, the fish symbol of the Zodiac. Jesus issued in the age of Pisces according to those who follow such things. We are now entering the age of Aquarius and a new era and symbolic icon.

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper

All this time I thought I was a Virgo....and now find out i'm a Leo....woe is me...

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Early worship in Israel

Ariel Schalit / AP
An Israeli prisoner tasked with clearing rubble prior to construction of a new prison ward uncovered the edge of an elaborate mosaic on the floor of what may be the oldest church in the Holy Land. Archaeologists have dated the church to the third century, decades before Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the early fourth century.
The mosaic includes drawings of fish, which was an ancient Christian symbol that predated the widespread use of the cross, and three inscriptions. One tells the story of a Roman officer who contributed towards paving the floor, the second is dedicated to the memory of four women, and the third mentions a woman who contributed a table, or altar, to God Jesus Christ, according to the Israel Antiquities Authority.
Tiny Christian relic unearthed in Jerusalem - Technology & science - Science - msnbc.com

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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

If someone asks me what my sign is, I end the conversation right there. Who wants to talk to a flake.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

If someone asks me what my sign is, I end the conversation right there. Who wants to talk to a flake.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Something wrong with just answering "STOP" or "YEILD" or "SLIPPERY WHEN WET"
as your sign? It might take the conversation in interesting directions it might not otherwise
take.....

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

If someone asks me what my sign is, I end the conversation right there. Who wants to talk to a flake.

Quote: Originally Posted by karrie

Just say.... you should be able to figure it out from my personality, shouldn't you?

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

I'd just like to point out that it wouldn't be the first time in history that 2 similar symbols have different meanings.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

That is true, but I doubt that the birth of Jesus falling at the beginning of the age of Pisces was any accident.

Quote: Originally Posted by karrie

Just say.... you should be able to figure it out from my personality, shouldn't you?

Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister

I'm not even sure what my so-called sign is any more, what with Ophiuchus suddenly popping up in the mix. However, just to illustrate how ridiculous the entire horoscope rubbish is here are a number of people who share Hitler's birth sign.

Carmen Electra, Napoleon III, and Jessica Lange.

Here is a more complete list of those who share Hitler's sign

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I seriously doubt that anyone can find anything in common with most of these people other than their birthdays. I do admit that there seems to be a good fit for Hitler and Rudoph Hess. But Hitler and Cher? Give me a break.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

We are talking about something that was developed around 600 BC and was destroyed during the Dark Ages by the church. What is known today has been pieced together from remaining fragments of the ancient knowledge, so it is incomplete at best and mere guesses at worst. We cannot judge the accuracy of today's astrology to its glory days before it was lost.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

......a woman who contributed a table, or altar, to God Jesus Christ, according to the Israel Antiquities Authority.

Correct me if I'm reading this wrong. There are those that have stated that Constantine was the person that raised Jesus Christ to "God". He was emperor of Rome from 306AD to 337AD. In other words in the beginning of the 4th century. The above Christian Church Mosaic was made in the 3rd century.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz

The trinity doctrine was not part of the early Church.


What altar is associated with Christianity, wouldn't it be considered to be an 'icon' and as such forbidden?

Constantine only sanctioned the making of the Bible from already existing manuscripts, he didn't authorize any new writings or even supply the definitions of the existing documents, as a Christian he would only have been a student.
If the preface to the KJV1611 edition is correct the RCC changed in the 1300 years that followed if the RCC was displeased that their version of the Bible was not used, rather it was the same version that was assembled for Constantine.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

What Constantine did was take many different religious groups, put them together and told them to take the existing writings and create one book by leaving out those writings that did not agree with his intended purpose. Christians were just one of the sects involved. Constantine was not a Christian until his death bed.

The bible came into being because the various groups vying for supremacy in the empire were tearing it apart from within. For Constantine, it was purely a political move and he did influence the outcome. He was not religious. He was only interested in bringing some form of stability to his empire.

The trinity doctrine was not part of the early Church.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz

The trinity doctrine was not part of the early Church.


What altar is associated with Christianity, wouldn't it be considered to be an 'icon' and as such forbidden?

Constantine only sanctioned the making of the Bible from already existing manuscripts, he didn't authorize any new writings or even supply the definitions of the existing documents, as a Christian he would only have been a student.
If the preface to the KJV1611 edition is correct the RCC changed in the 1300 years that followed if the RCC was displeased that their version of the Bible was not used, rather it was the same version that was assembled for Constantine.

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

Being born on "Pi Day" I'll alway be a Pisces no matter where procession takes the rest of you. The time of year you were born does indeed impact your personality for life. Maybe they were on to something 10,000 years ago?

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh

Did you even read what I wrote or read the article? Didn't think so.

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

Based on Judean beliefs or Israelite beliefs?

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

.... leaving out those writings that did not agree with his intended purpose.....Constantine was not a Christian until his death bed.

Quote: Originally Posted by petros

The time of year you were born does indeed impact your personality for life.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

Really? Could you expand on that?

A study of nearly 3,000 post-menopausal women showed that the earliest age of menopause was found in women born in March and the latest among those born in October. On average there was around 15 months' difference, with women born in October reaching menopause at over 50 years compared with under 49 years for women born in March.

Writing in Europe's leading reproductive medicine journal Human Reproduction, lead author Dr Angelo Cagnacci said that the findings reinforced the concept that prenatal environmental factors affected a baby's adult life.