#31
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 1st, 2011
Very interesting, thanks. That's real stuff though, not mystic nonsense like astrological influences.
Early Chrisianity
#32
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011
The ancient calender was a myth? If we can observe that women bleed by the moon and winter babies are crankier than summer babies what makes you think people weren't sharp enough to observe those traits 10,000 years ago? They had the solstices pegged to perfection but couldn't didn't pick on the subtleties of human nature? They could give you the time of day and month but that's about it?
You have no faith in man either?
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You have no faith in man either?
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#33
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Where'd you get those silly ideas? I've never suggested the ancient calendar was a myth, people have long observed the seasons and the changing signs in the sky as markers of them, it's not that difficult if the night sky's not washed out by modern lighting, and for a relatively primitive agricultural society such data would be crucial, so of course they paid attention. We still do, it's still crucial, to keep the calendar in sync with the actual motions of the planet. Women don't bleed by the moon, if they did every woman on the planet's menstrual cycles would be synchronized to the moon's phases, and they're not. The moon's periodicity is completely irrelevant to menstrual cycles, it's mere coincidence that the average cycle is approximately (and it's VERY approximate) as long as the moon's cycle. I think you've fallen into the straw man fallacy. And just in case you're wondering, astrology is provably utter BS.The ancient calender was a myth? If we can observe that women bleed by the moon and winter babies are crankier than summer babies what makes you think people weren't sharp enough to observe those traits 10,000 years ago? They had the solstices pegged to perfection but couldn't didn't pick on the subtleties of human nature? They could give you the time of day and month but that's about it?
You have no faith in man either?
#34
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
The skeptics just aren't comfy with the obvious physical realities of spacial position and velocity during conception. The same notorious church has done everything in its power to ridicule the importance of ancient science and the study of precession in particular. They were and still are a backward bunch of flat earth centrists.
Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Whether it's provably BS or not, I have avery accurate horoscope on my blackberry. unfortunately, that's the oly good thing about the blackberry and tomorrow I start a new life with the samsung galaxy s 2. I will miss my horoscope. Being born on "Pi Day" I'll alway be a Pisces no matter where procession takes the rest of you. The time of year you were born does indeed impact your personality for life. Maybe they were on to something 10,000 years ago?
I happen to think that there's a little truth to the stuff. If you look at the description of cancers and knew me quite well, you'd be shocked at how accurate it is in at least one case.
#35
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011
Jerryh this is really interesting stuff. The church being the Christian Church destroyed
so much. It is the same crazy stuff the Taliban was attempting to do in Afghanistan.
In the very beginning, the Church engaged in a political battle for power in the first one
hundred years. The four books of the Bible became the testaments even though in many
cases the contradict each other. There were apparently as many as a dozen books of
the Bible and some say even more but they were ignored in favour of four.
Then comes Constantine, the man who used the church to reignite his empire and get
people to believe in something. Again the prime motivation was power not religion.
Then Pope Gregory came along and changed all kinds of things for his political benefit.
However even having said that the time dated floor leaves us with many questions and
something to go on that may or may not change some of the conventional truths as we
know them Maybe.
so much. It is the same crazy stuff the Taliban was attempting to do in Afghanistan.
In the very beginning, the Church engaged in a political battle for power in the first one
hundred years. The four books of the Bible became the testaments even though in many
cases the contradict each other. There were apparently as many as a dozen books of
the Bible and some say even more but they were ignored in favour of four.
Then comes Constantine, the man who used the church to reignite his empire and get
people to believe in something. Again the prime motivation was power not religion.
Then Pope Gregory came along and changed all kinds of things for his political benefit.
However even having said that the time dated floor leaves us with many questions and
something to go on that may or may not change some of the conventional truths as we
know them Maybe.
#36
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011
Food allergies can be pegged to season of birth but unless it's observed and recorded by geeks it's just an "old wive's tale"?
Primitive agrarians? Astrology in ag It's still in use today.
The Farmer's Almanac still sells really well. It's predictions are astronomically based.
An almanac is an alchemists notebook usually encoded in astrological symbology.
It goes back to Khemet's (Ancient Egypt) al khemists and obviously deeper back in time.
They were growing, storing and distributing mass quantities of food ahead of time knowing when the drought years were coming over 6000 years ago in recorded history. All so they could support their complex urban societies.
Why would they bother noting emotional, physical and psychological difference by the month you were born in?
They were too busy staying up all night watching the star so they knew when to plant and when to harvest?
What were the women doing? Dishes?
It must really suck balls having to commute to the fields, raise a family in the city and go busting rock in winter for the Pharaoh.
I'm glad were smarter than that these days.
Primitive agrarians? Astrology in ag It's still in use today.
The Farmer's Almanac still sells really well. It's predictions are astronomically based.
An almanac is an alchemists notebook usually encoded in astrological symbology.
It goes back to Khemet's (Ancient Egypt) al khemists and obviously deeper back in time.
They were growing, storing and distributing mass quantities of food ahead of time knowing when the drought years were coming over 6000 years ago in recorded history. All so they could support their complex urban societies.
Why would they bother noting emotional, physical and psychological difference by the month you were born in?
They were too busy staying up all night watching the star so they knew when to plant and when to harvest?
What were the women doing? Dishes?
It must really suck balls having to commute to the fields, raise a family in the city and go busting rock in winter for the Pharaoh.
I'm glad were smarter than that these days.
#37
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Vaessen
Yeah, horoscopes are written that way. They're written with such a vagueness its easy to apply them to different situations. Look at this one for myself, today: "Friction between your lively, communicative outside and your soft, vulnerable inside may make it difficult for you to find the solution you seek.". That's so vague you have to ask yourself what it really means in the first place. I happen to think that there's a little truth to the stuff. If you look at the description of cancers and knew me quite well, you'd be shocked at how accurate it is in at least one case.
Horoscopes = waste of time
#38
Re: Early Chrisianity
Nov 2nd, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayz
Wow! You are a Caramilk bar - hard chocolate on the outside and soft caramel on the inside. Polar bears would loooove you!Yeah, horoscopes are written that way. They're written with such a vagueness its easy to apply them to different situations. Look at this one for myself, today: "Friction between your lively, communicative outside and your soft, vulnerable inside may make it difficult for you to find the solution you seek.". That's so vague you have to ask yourself what it really means in the first place.
Horoscopes = waste of time
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