Tempers Flare Over School Prayers In Toronto


Goober
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Terms of endearment.

OK, you watched the movie and cried. Bear it is OK. OK

Edit - Yes I cried as well. OK
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

It means it's allowed...


ummmm....no... The Catholic Church still says no, regardless of what permits a city may be dispensing.

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Besides Goober nailing you square on the head....

That is the weak way out of actually having to debate the topic.

Way to go EAO.


Your comment concerning goober is not understood.
 
CDNBear
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Your comment concerning goober is not understood.

He hit you harder then I thought.
 
gerryh
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and just to add, if it came from goober, it ain't worth shyte, IMNSHO
 
CDNBear
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and just to add, if it came from goober, it ain't worth shyte, IMNSHO

Ya, what do I know, I'm just a silly Islamophobe, because I have a problem with one religion being given preferential treatment....
 
Goober
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and just to add, if it came from goober, it ain't worth shyte, IMNSHO

I guess you cannot read, nor think with a reasonable perspective, or the ability to see thru all the crap that floats around on this subject. In your mind this is all about hatred. Because it is Muslims we all must hate them. Rather racist perspective from a so called religious man.

What a pitiful way to look at life, such a warped perspective on the reality of the situation. You condemn all for the actions of a few that yelled obscenities.Sad to say the least.

And yes please keep me on ignore as I find that I am quite enjoying it. Guess you did not expect that eh.
 
gerryh
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Ya, what do I know, I'm just a silly Islamophobe, because I have a problem with one religion being given preferential treatment....



Your attitude towards Islam has what to do with goober?
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Your attitude towards Islam has what to do with goober?

Reasoned thought.
 
CDNBear
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Your attitude towards Islam has what to do with goober?

What attitude?
 
Goober
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What attitude?

Bear if he takes me off Ignore, I will not be having as much fun. I hope you realize that.
 
TenPenny
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When they didn't, the 400 plus Muslim students would go to a near by Mosque at lunch time for their prayers. Problem was, like typical teens, many would not return to school afterwards. The school decided to do something about this and came up with allowing the students to use the cafeteria.

So, we have to have gender discrimination against women in our schools because some kids skip class.

Oh, that makes sense. The Imam has enough control over the little twerps to make them go to prayers, but can't get them to go back to school? Put the onus on the kids and the Imam, stop forcing the girls to accept discrimination IN OUR SCHOOLS just because Muslim kids have no discipline.
 
Goober
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So, we have to have gender discrimination against women in our schools because some kids skip class.

Oh, that makes sense. The Imam has enough control over the little twerps to make them go to prayers, but can't get them to go back to school? Put the onus on the kids and the Imam, stop forcing the girls to accept discrimination IN OUR SCHOOLS just because Muslim kids have no discipline.

With that logic all mosques should be classed as illegal due to discrimination against women. I can tell you how the SCOC would rule. Send me a few hundred for the answer.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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You know what we really need in schools. Book learnin.
 
Goober
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You know what we really need in schools. Book learnin.

And parents to learn what they cannot help their kids with.
 
SLM
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You know what we really need in schools. Book learnin.

It would help if they hadn't closed all the liberrys.
 
ironsides
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It would help if the schools did not stop issuing text books unless someone really needs one, everything is online now. Libraries down here have cut hours, maybe someday they will just close up.
 
SLM
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It would help if the schools did not stop issuing text books unless someone really needs one, everything is online now. Libraries down here have cut hours, maybe someday they will just close up.



That, in all honesty and sincerity, makes me sad. The school library was my first real exposure to a wonderful world of books. I was a voracious reader as a child.

 
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That, in all honesty and sincerity, makes me sad. The school library was my first real exposure to a wonderful world of books. I was a voracious reader as a child.



Mine also.
 
DaSleeper
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So long as that school allows Bingo in the evening....I don't see any kind of problem...

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Since it's not a Catholic school, there is the possibility that it would.

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Would be? ....or would Not be?

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would NOT be. Bingo is a form of gambling, therefore it is not allowed to be used for fund raising like it was in the past.

No mention of Church there...hence my post
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No?????
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It means it's allowed...

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ummmm....no... The Catholic Church still says no, regardless of what permits a city may be dispensing.


I checked and not once did I make any mention of the Catholic church.......
 
Goober
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No mention of Church there...hence my post







I checked and not once did I make any mention of the Catholic church.......

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Sparrow
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Here in Quebec we do not have what were public RC and Protestant School Boards, we now have English and French School Boards. There are no more religion classes as before, now they have courses on the differences among religions in general from around the world as well as general morals.

However I have heard but cannot confirm that accommodation are made in schools for Muslims with reference to prayers and swimming lessons.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

With that logic all mosques should be classed as illegal due to discrimination against women. I can tell you how the SCOC would rule. Send me a few hundred for the answer.

Actually, you missed the point. With that logic, the government should not be providing mosques in schools. If you want to be a discriminatory group, do so on your own turf, not as part of the school system.

I think that the Human Rights Commission should rule on whether our school system can have such functions that force girls to sit in back, and prevent girls who are menstruating from attending. What do you think about that? What if we disallowed any girls who were menstruating from attending math class? Doesn't that make sense? Their blood might upset the math gods.
 
Goober
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Actually, you missed the point. With that logic, the government should not be providing mosques in schools. If you want to be a discriminatory group, do so on your own turf, not as part of the school system.

I think that the Human Rights Commission should rule on whether our school system can have such functions that force girls to sit in back, and prevent girls who are menstruating from attending. What do you think about that? What if we disallowed any girls who were menstruating from attending math class? Doesn't that make sense? Their blood might upset the math gods.

TP
I do from time to time Not get it as they say – But I got the point. Religious rights trump whatever the CHRC can come up with – The Charter /BNA are the lead documents for this. Also HR Comms do not have to follow the same legal procedures as would occur in any trial, civil or criminal.
It is their Religion, whether I agree or not, it is their religion and up to Muslims to change as they see fit.
The problem that excites people is the dual standard employed by the Govt by using an experimental program for 9 years.
The best way to understand what divides people is education and exposure. It may or may not change a person mind, then again it offers the opportunity to learn about them, their beliefs, as they learn about yours.
 
TenPenny
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I understand what you are saying, and I can understand working with religions for good reasons.

What bothers me is that, by officially sanctioning this in a school, during school hours, we are telling girls that menstruation is evil, ungodly, and unclean, and that girls are secondary to boys. I believe that runs counter to what we are supposed to believe.
 
Goober
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I understand what you are saying, and I can understand working with religions for good reasons.

What bothers me is that, by officially sanctioning this in a school, during school hours, we are telling girls that menstruation is evil, ungodly, and unclean, and that girls are secondary to boys. I believe that runs counter to what we are supposed to believe.

And that is why education is needed. It is an affront to many who believe in equality, but the facts are that is part of their Religion.
 
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And that is why education is needed. It is an affront to many who believe in equality, but the facts are that is part of their Religion.

Yes, the education is needed (thats why its the law until kids are 16), but that still doesn't justify the school district providing an opportunity for the religion that propogates such discriminatory practices to desiminate them further.
 
Machjo
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...If it was catholics, I'd have a problem with it.

The issue is, public schools have been off limits to all religious commitments.

Correction: in Ontario, it is Catholics; and separate schools are still public schools in that they are publicly funded.
 
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Correction: in Ontario, it is Catholics; and separate schools are still public schools in that they are publicly funded.

Your point?
 

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