The reason behind terroris and its solution

The reason behind terroris and its solution

dattaswami

#1Jul 24th, 2011

The reason behind terroris and its solution

Now, we shall examine the problem of terrorism. There can be many religions on the earth, based on the difference in the culture and the civilization existing in the various parts of the world. In the above topic we have seen that the traditions are different, but the essence of the traditions is one and the same. Similarly, religions may differ, but the essence of the religions, which is the spiritual knowledge, is one and the same. The spiritual knowledge says that there is only one God for this entire earth or even for the entire creation. This point is agreed by all religions. The names and forms of the absolute unimaginable God are different in different languages and different dresses of culture. Krishna and Jesus are one and the same, dressed differently as per the difference in the culture of the regions of this earth.

If you say that Krishna alone is God and the Gita alone is the scripture, several generations passed away without the knowledge of Krishna and the Gita in the past, when there was no communication between the countries, till the discovery of India by other countries. In such case, those generations have gone to hell since they did not worship Krishna and did not here the Gita. This is not their fault due to lack of inter-continental contact. In such case, God becomes partial without reason. It means, God should have been mad. God is the Father of every human being and He cannot be partial to some children only without reason. If God is impartial, He should have appeared as Krishna in all countries and delivered the Gita simultaneously. Had it been done, it becomes justified to say that those, who worshipped Krishna, went to God and those, who refused Krishna, went to hell.

This argument applies to the conservative followers of every religion. The solution for this is that the same God appeared in different forms and delivered the same knowledge in various parts of the world simultaneously. The forms may be different but God is one and the same. The languages of the scriptures may differ but the essential knowledge is one and the same. Thus, there is simultaneous delivery of knowledge to everybody in the creation. Hence, God, the Father, is impartial to His children, who are all the human beings. If this single truth is realized, there will be no violent terrorism in the name of God.

The terrorists always kill the followers of other religion. They do not know that they are killing the devotees of their own God. Suppose there is a police officer. He sits in his office in the uniform and another police officer is his best friend. The police officer sits in his house in civil dress. He has another friend in civil dress. The son of the police officer is always exposed to him in the civil dress. Hence, the son praises the friend of the father in civil dress and scolds the other friend in uniform. The ignorant son does not know that his father in the civil dress is the same person in the uniform. He mistakes his father in the uniform as an outsider and even scolds him.
Both naxalism and terrorism should be removed to bring the peace in society, which is the main essence of pravrutti. Unless you follow the ethics, which is the commandment of God, how can you please Him in nivrutti or spiritual path? If you disobey God in pravrutti, you cannot please Him in nivrutti because God is one and the same in both the subjects.
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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

Mowich

#2 Top Rated Post

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 24th, 2011

Oh for pete's sake will you just stick to posting in one topic and quit with the multiple threads........... this is getting very tiresome.

CDNBear

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 24th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich

Oh for pete's sake will you just stick to posting in one topic and quit with the multiple threads........... this is getting very tiresome.

It's still a refreshing change from the usual anti American spam.

Mowich

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 24th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear

It's still a refreshing change from the usual anti American spam.

True, Bear............but really do we need multiple threads on the basically the same theme?

Corduroy

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 24th, 2011

Some people just like talking to themselves.

dattaswami

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy

Some people just like talking to themselves.

Absence of spiritual knowledge is the root cause of terrorism. Therefore GOd comes in human form to preach wonderful divine knowledge to transform people through the excellent divine knowledge.

Cliffy

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Spam is not divine knowledge.

dattaswami

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

Spam is not divine knowledge.

Spam means some objectionable content, content which are down grading the morality etc etc.

How divine knowledge which is most important aspect of God's administration can be spam.

God comes in human form with a serious intent to preach and uplift the human souls through His wonderful divine knowledge. If you consider it as spam, then how people can be uplifted?

Cliffy

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

I think Shadow was quite specific. "And now your new threads will all be merged. Any futher ones will either be merged or deleted. A thread had been created for you already, so please use it."

Spamming is posting multiple threads on the same subject with links to your web site.

dattaswami

#10

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

I think Shadow was quite specific. "And now your new threads will all be merged. Any futher ones will either be merged or deleted. A thread had been created for you already, so please use it."

Spamming is posting multiple threads on the same subject with links to your web site.

You must understand the concept of God coming in human form. God in human form is to be recognized through the spiritual knowledge preached by Him and not by the miracles. The main project of God to come to the earth is only to guide the souls to the correct spiritual path, which leads the souls to permanent welfare. Therefore, Veda says that the real identity mark of God is the special spiritual knowledge (Prajnanam Brahma). Who will decide that the knowledge is the best? Your own inner conscience is the real judge to give the certificate for the knowledge of the preacher (Pramanamantahkaranapravruttayah). For your level, whatever is the best should be the best for you. The ultimate and absolute best is not relevant to you. Therefore, the certificate given by others is not relevant to you since the levels of others differ from your level. The preacher gives the spiritual knowledge to the souls in different levels according to their corresponding levels. If you are in the highest level and if your conscience is satisfied, such spiritual knowledge is the ultimate and such preacher is the human incarnation of God.

The highest preacher can give lower levels of knowledge also but the lower preacher cannot give the higher-level of knowledge. But if your level is low, the highest preacher is of no use and you can treat the preacher of your level as the highest. Even if you catch the highest preacher, He will give you the level of knowledge corresponding to your level only. The advantage with the highest preacher is that you need not change the preacher as you rise in your level. The highest preacher is only God in human form. You must filter Him not only from ordinary human beings but also must filter Him from the other false human incarnations. The most important point is that you must identify your contemporary human incarnation, which alone can clarify all your doubts. Otherwise, you can only follow the text of the past human incarnation and only your other classmates clarify all your doubts. Then, you will be certainly confused further.

Cliffy

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Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

I am god in human form. So is everybody else. I don't spam the forum like you do, which tells me that you think you are above the rules of this forum and probably other humans as well. A self appointed mouth piece for god is a charlatan as far as I'm concerned.

dattaswami

#12

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

I am god in human form. So is everybody else. I don't spam the forum like you do, which tells me that you think you are above the rules of this forum and probably other humans as well. A self appointed mouth piece for god is a charlatan as far as I'm concerned.

OK
God came down in the form of an individual soul. You are misunderstanding such human incarnation equal to human being or yourself. The reason for this is the ignorance about God existing in that particular individual soul, which is in that particular gross body. You are also an individual soul in a similar gross body. He is God associated with individual soul in the gross body. You are like the metallic wire present in the outer plastic insulating cover. He is the current in the metallic wire, which exists, in the plastic cover. Unless you have the knowledge of plastic cover (external gross body) and metallic wire (jeevatman), you cannot identify the current (God), which is different from these two. You are only the metallic wire with the plastic cover. Therefore, unless you have the knowledge of the self and body you cannot identify God who is different from both, existing in the human incarnation. To negate these two as God, their knowledge is essential as a preliminary step.

Cliffy

#13

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by dattaswami

OK
God came down in the form of an individual soul. You are misunderstanding such human incarnation equal to human being or yourself. The reason for this is the ignorance about God existing in that particular individual soul, which is in that particular gross body. You are also an individual soul in a similar gross body. He is God associated with individual soul in the gross body. You are like the metallic wire present in the outer plastic insulating cover. He is the current in the metallic wire, which exists, in the plastic cover. Unless you have the knowledge of plastic cover (external gross body) and metallic wire (jeevatman), you cannot identify the current (God), which is different from these two. You are only the metallic wire with the plastic cover. Therefore, unless you have the knowledge of the self and body you cannot identify God who is different from both, existing in the human incarnation. To negate these two as God, their knowledge is essential as a preliminary step.

How do you know that I don't know? How do you know that I have not experienced the divine within my own life force, my own soul? You don't. I know that god does not spam forums, it doesn't break the rules and when speaking through a human incarnation, does not place that incarnation above others, does not talk down to others. I call charlatan because you are talking down to and placing yourself above others and breaking the rules of the forum.

TenPenny

#14

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by dattaswami

Absence of spiritual knowledge is the root cause of terrorism. Therefore GOd comes in human form to preach wonderful divine knowledge to transform people through the excellent divine knowledge.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that you are God in human form, preaching wonderful divine knowledge?

Cliffy

#15

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

Are you seriously trying to tell us that you are God in human form, preaching wonderful divine knowledge?

I certainly appears that way. God complex comes to mind. The world has seen a few. His gimmick is not new either. If there is a god, I'm sure he's not a spammer.

taxslave

#16

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by dattaswami

Absence of spiritual knowledge is the root cause of terrorism. Therefore GOd comes in human form to preach wonderful divine knowledge to transform people through the excellent divine knowledge.

Then why are wars and terrorist activities started by religious fanatics? Wrong god perhaps? Or just Spam?

annabattler

#17

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by dattaswami

You must understand the concept of God coming in human form. God in human form is to be recognized through the spiritual knowledge preached by Him and not by the miracles. The main project of God to come to the earth is only to guide the souls to the correct spiritual path, which leads the souls to permanent welfare. Therefore, Veda says that the real identity mark of God is the special spiritual knowledge (Prajnanam Brahma). Who will decide that the knowledge is the best? Your own inner conscience is the real judge to give the certificate for the knowledge of the preacher (Pramanamantahkaranapravruttayah). For your level, whatever is the best should be the best for you. The ultimate and absolute best is not relevant to you. Therefore, the certificate given by others is not relevant to you since the levels of others differ from your level. The preacher gives the spiritual knowledge to the souls in different levels according to their corresponding levels. If you are in the highest level and if your conscience is satisfied, such spiritual knowledge is the ultimate and such preacher is the human incarnation of God.
The highest preacher can give lower levels of knowledge also but the lower preacher cannot give the higher-level of knowledge. But if your level is low, the highest preacher is of no use and you can treat the preacher of your level as the highest. Even if you catch the highest preacher,...
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My eyes glaze over, andmy bain shuddes when I read this sot of posting...it's a little like how I react when Jehovah Witnesses knock on my door. Religion is man made .....spirituality is a pesonal and private conviction,not to inflicted on others.

AbtFet

#18

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by dattaswami

Absence of spiritual knowledge is the root cause of terrorism. Therefore GOd comes in human form to preach wonderful divine knowledge to transform people through the excellent divine knowledge.

No it isn't. Oppression is the root cause of terrorism.

lone wolf

#19

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by AbtFet

No it isn't. Oppression is the root cause of terrorism.

...and there is nothing more oppressive than being denied one's own freedom to seek

DurkaDurka

#20

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 25th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by AbtFet

No it isn't. Oppression is the root cause of terrorism.

Right.... I suppose you are in a defensive pose right now as you automatically associate terrorism with a certain religion and obviously, people only blow them selves up when they're oppressed. Do you think the Norwegian was oppressed? How about the unibomber?

Bar Sinister

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Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 26th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka

Right.... I suppose you are in a defensive pose right now as you automatically associate terrorism with a certain religion and obviously, people only blow them selves up when they're oppressed. Do you think the Norwegian was oppressed? How about the unibomber?

Good point. The terrorist attack in Norway was all about oppression to a certain extent, but it was not the perpetrator of the atrocity that was being oppressed, rather he was striking out because Norwegian democracy denied him the right to openly oppress members of society of whom he disappeared. The religious right has contunually sought to impose its reactionary values on the rest of society whether other members of that society have shared them or not. Fortunately, religious fundamentalists are fighting a losing value as society becomes more open and accepting rather than the other way around. Humanity appears to be entering an era in which skin colour, ethnicity, and religious beliefs are becoming less and less important. It is a promising trend and the acts of religious terrorists will probably accelerate it rather than slow it down.

dattaswami

#22

Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 26th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister

Good point. The terrorist attack in Norway was all about oppression to a certain extent, but it was not the perpetrator of the atrocity that was being oppressed, rather he was striking out because Norwegian democracy denied him the right to openly oppress members of society of whom he disappeared. The religious right has contunually sought to impose its reactionary values on the rest of society whether other members of that society have shared them or not. Fortunately, religious fundamentalists are fighting a losing value as society becomes more open and accepting rather than the other way around. Humanity appears to be entering an era in which skin colour, ethnicity, and religious beliefs are becoming less and less important. It is a promising trend and the acts of religious terrorists will probably accelerate it rather than slow it down.

There are two root causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world. One is the thirst for earning money and the other is the religious fanatic. Due to money, people are quarreling, hereas due to religion, countries are quarreling. Unless these two root causes are eradicated we cannot achieve world peace. The tree will not die by cutting leaves and branches. It dies only by cutting its roots. There is no use in earning the extra money. Due to excess money, quarrels, mental worries and several other problems arise. Finally, it ends in loss only and not in any profit. You have to leave all this extra money here only and quit this world alone. Your issues may lose that money given by you. Such sinful extra money brings problems not only to you but also to your children. Neither yourself nor your children will be happy and peaceful. This entire world is the property of God and take whatever is required from it. This is said in Gita, (“Yavanartha….”).

In these days, buffet system is followed during feasts. In this system, large vessels contain various food items and people take food from these vessels according to their requirement. Similarly, God created this entire world and you can take the wealth from it according to your requirement. People are not following the same system when they are taking wealth from this world. The peculiarity is that most rich people follow this buffet system in the feasts but do not follow the same when it comes to earning the money. ‘Esavasya Upanishad’ says that one should return back this extra money to the Lord. Otherwise, the Lord will give the troubles.

In buffet system, if one takes extra food in his plate by over ambition and ignorance for a moment, he returns back immediately before starting eating. Veda says that you must return back the extra money for the God’s work if taken by ignorance. In the buffet system if you eat the extra food, you will suffer from diseases. Similarly, if you enjoy the extra money, God will punish you in several ways.

In this world, people belonging to any religion think that their religion only is the true religion. They think that the God of their religion can alone give the salvation and the worship of that God should be according to their religion only. They also condemn other religions and invite people to convert people into their religion. They do lot of work to establish their religion only in the entire world which shows their ambition. It is just like Alexander’s ambition to make the entire world his kingdom. Alexander wanted to extend his kingdom. But, even he returned back after fighting with Porus (Purushotama) on seeing the loss of life in the battle. But, the ambition of religious fanatics is not subsided on seeing any amount of loss of life. Religion is considered to be backed with spiritual knowledge and the religious people are expected to be free from ambition. We can excuse ambition of any ignorant person like Alexander.

The heart of a religious fanatic will not change by any amount of kindness or love expressed in the appeals. Such appeals can change only the heart and the change in the heart is always temporary. Change in the intelligence brought by knowledge based on logic is always real and permanent. Intelligence (Buddhi) is considered to be the driver of this body, which is like a chariot running by the senses, which are like the horses. If the driver is convinced, the entire chariot along with the horses is in the correct path. The terrorist will not change by love or kindness shown to him. He becomes the terrorist due to the wrong knowledge that enters his brain. He was convinced by that knowledge. That knowledge can be changed only by the right knowledge. A diamond can only be cut by another diamond. Similarly, one type of knowledge can only be replaced by another type of knowledge. Then only, he will be convinced and changed forever.

So far, the trials made to change the terrorist were beating around the bush and therefore, they did not have much effect. Today, SRI GURU DATTA is giving the right knowledge to remove the religious conservatism.

Dexter Sinister

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Re: The reason behind terroris and its solution

Jul 27th, 2011

Quote: Originally Posted by dattaswami

Today, SRI GURU DATTA is giving the right knowledge ... .

Who is SRI GURU DATTA? You?

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