The Quran gives the easier way

So what's the deal eanassir?

Are you a Muslim, a Christian, a Jew or Scientologist?

I am a hanief [following Abraham's devotion to God alone), and a Muslim: submitting myself to God alone.

Your God should punish him self for creating hate filled things like your self.

And vice versa?
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This meaning is told in the Glorious Quran in many revelations, when the apostle comes and warns his people of the idolatry, then they disbelieve him, then the punishment settles on them; the apostle will say:
As in the Quran 7: 79 about Salih the apostle to the tribe of Thamood:
فَتَوَلَّى عَنْهُمْ وَقَالَ يَا قَوْمِ لَقَدْ أَبْلَغْتُكُمْ رِسَالَةَ رَبِّي وَنَصَحْتُ لَكُمْ وَلَكِن لاَّ تُحِبُّونَ النَّاصِحِينَ

The explanation:
(Then he left them and said: "my people, I did convey to you the message of my Lord, and advised you sincerely, but you do not love sincere advisers.")

Also Shaib said to his people who were destroyed by the earthquake, as in the Quran 7:

فَتَوَلَّى عَنْهُمْ وَقَالَ يَا قَوْمِلَقَدْ أَبْلَغْتُكُمْ رِسَالاَتِ رَبِّي وَنَصَحْتُ لَكُمْ فَكَيْفَ آسَى عَلَىقَوْمٍ كَافِرِينَ

The explanation:
(So he left them, and said: "my people, I have conveyed to you the messages of my Lord, and advised you sincerely, so how should I grieve for such disbelieving people!?")

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This thread makes me feel blue

edit: I broke the trend!

edit2: ****, it went back to blue? It must be a sign from Krishna (the blue-skinned Hindu god) that all this talk of false gods upsets him. Turn away from monotheism! And embrace the many-armed gods of Hinduism!

What exactly is hanief? Is that also Muslim or Jewish?

A hanief is one who follow the creed of Abraham who was exclusively devoted to God alone and was against the idolatry. The Muslim is commanded to follow this way of Abraham who was neither a Jew nor a Christian.

So I am a Muslim: submitting myself to God alone.

It does not change after edition: the color icon does not work when one edits.
It may be to let you feel blue or to smoke more cigarettes

Abraham was the guy that would kill his own son for God. He's a great role model for all murderous fanatics in the Abrahamic religions . I mean, if God ever told me to do that I'd tell him to go **** himself.

This is in complement of the post #22

Following the destruction of disbelievers, the apostle was ordered to praise God, like Noah after the drowning of his people; as in the Quran 23: 28
فَإِذَا اسْتَوَيْتَ أَنتَ وَمَن مَّعَكَ عَلَى الْفُلْكِ فَقُلِ الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي نَجَّانَا مِنَ الْقَوْمِ الظَّالِمِينَ

The explanation:
(And when you [Noah] have mounted on the Ark together with those with you, then say:"Praise be to God Who has saved us from the people of thewrong-doing.")


Another apostle Gamaleil (following the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus) said as in the Quran 36: 30
يَا حَسْرَةً عَلَى الْعِبَادِ مَا يَأْتِيهِم مِّن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِؤُون

The explanation:
("Alas for servants! [For] there never comes to them an apostle, but they mock at him."

Do [your people, Mohammed] not consider how many [past] generations We destroyed before them [when they denied their messengers]? Will they not refer to their [condition and be not like them]!?)

Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy

Abraham was the guy that would kill his own son for God. He's a great role model for all murderous fanatics in the Abrahamic religions . I mean, if God ever told me to do that

God may not tell you; He only told His loyal friend Abraham to see is his love to God more or is his love to his only son: Ismael (the first son born for Abraham and who was his only son before the birth of Isaac.)

Yes, people who disbelieve deserve no consideration, might as well kill them all off. And you cannot even conceive of the possibility that you might be wrong.


Little history lesson here for you:

In Baghdad between the years 800 and 1100 or so, there was a flourishing scientific and mathematical enterprise involving Muslim, Christian, Jewish, and other, scholars and the free exchange of ideas. These are the people who named over two thirds of the stars that have names, invented algebra (and gave us the word), invented the Arabic numerals we still use, promoted zero as a useful mathematical idea, preserved much of the ancient Greek learning while Europeans were busy disemboweling each other, and a whole lot of other stuff. And then along came Imam Hamil al-Ghazali. He was to Islam about what St. Augustine was to Christianity. He took all the various ways people were observing Islam, codified it all, wrote it all down, and it became the authoritative guide on how to be a proper Muslim. One of the things he said was that manipulating numbers is the work of the devil, and he objected strongly to searching for knowledge for its own sake, without an immediate practical application. He destroyed the philosophical basis of that scholarly enterprise, replaced information with revelation. There has been no significant scientific or engineering advancement associated with Islam ever since, it's never recovered. That's what submission gets you: a dead end.

My disbelief comes from how God wired my brain, my disbelief is directly the result of God

Quote: Originally Posted by eanassir

Einestein when he was child, he exposed your fallacy

My disbelief comes from how God wired my brain, my disbelief is directly the result then of God