Malcolm X on Zionism

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Zionist Logic

Malcolm X on Zionism

By Malcolm X (Omowale Malcolm X Shabazz)

Taken from The Egyptian Gazette -- Sept. 17, 1964


February 20, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- -- The Zionist armies that now occupy Palestine claim their ancient Jewish prophets predicted that in the "last days of this world" their own God would raise them up a "messiah" who would lead them to their promised land, and they would set up their own "divine" government in this newly-gained land, this "divine" government would enable them to "rule all other nations with a rod of iron."

If the Israeli Zionists believe their present occupation of Arab Palestine is the fulfillment of predictions made by their Jewish prophets, then they also religiously believe that Israel must fulfill its "divine" mission to rule all other nations with a rod of irons, which only means a different form of iron-like rule, more firmly entrenched even, than that of the former European Colonial Powers.

These Israeli Zionists religiously believe their Jewish God has chosen them to replace the outdated European colonialism with a new form of colonialism, so well disguised that it will enable them to deceive the African masses into submitting willingly to their "divine" authority and guidance, without the African masses being aware that they are still colonized.

CAMOUFLAGE

The Israeli Zionists are convinced they have successfully camouflaged their new kind of colonialism. Their colonialism appears to be more "benevolent," more "philanthropic," a system with which they rule simply by getting their potential victims to accept their friendly offers of economic "aid," and other tempting gifts, that they dangle in front of the newly-independent African nations, whose economies are experiencing great difficulties. During the 19th century, when the masses here in Africa were largely illiterate it was easy for European imperialists to rule them with "force and fear," but in this present era of enlightenment the African masses are awakening, and it is impossible to hold them in check now with the antiquated methods of the 19th century.

The imperialists, therefore, have been compelled to devise new methods. Since they can no longer force or frighten the masses into submission, they must devise modern methods that will enable them to manouevre the African masses into willing submission.

The modern 20th century weapon of neo-imperialism is "dollarism." The Zionists have mastered the science of dollarism: the ability to come posing as a friend and benefactor, bearing gifts and all other forms of economic aid and offers of technical assistance. Thus, the power and influence of Zionist Israel in many of the newly "independent" African nations has fast-become even more unshakeable than that of the 18th century European colonialists... and this new kind of Zionist colonialism differs only in form and method, but never in motive or objective.

At the close of the 19th century when European imperialists wisely foresaw that the awakening masses of Africa would not submit to their old method of ruling through force and fears, these ever-scheming imperialists had to create a "new weapon," and to find a "new base" for that weapon.

DOLLARISM

The number one weapon of 20th century imperialism is zionist dollarism, and one of the main bases for this weapon is Zionist Israel. The ever-scheming European imperialists wisely placed Israel where she could geographically divide the Arab world, infiltrate and sow the seed of dissension among African leaders and also divide the Africans against the Asians.

Zionist Israel's occupation of Arab Palestine has forced the Arab world to waste billions of precious dollars on armaments, making it impossible for these newly independent Arab nations to concentrate on strengthening the economies of their countries and elevate the living standard of their people.

And the continued low standard of living in the Arab world has been skillfully used by the Zionist propagandists to make it appear to the Africans that the Arab leaders are not intellectually or technically qualified to lift the living standard of their people ... thus, indirectly "enducing" Africans to turn away from the Arabs and towards the Israelis for teachers and technical assistance.

"They cripple the bird's wing, and then condemn it for not flying as fast as they."

The imperialists always make themselves look good, but it is only because they are competing against economically crippled newly independent countries whose economies are actually crippled by the Zionist-capitalist conspiracy. They can't stand against fair competition, thus they dread Gamal Abdul Nasser's call for African-Arab Unity under Socialism.

MESSIAH?

If the "religious" claim of the Zionists is true that they were to be led to the promised land by their messiah, and Israel's present occupation of Arab Palestine is the fulfillment of that prophesy: where is their messiah whom their prophets said would get the credit for leading them there? It was Ralph Bunche who "negotiated" the Zionists into possession of Occupied Palestine! Is Ralph Bunche the messiah of Zionism? If Ralph Bunche is not their messiah, and their messsiah has not yet come, then what are they doing in Palestine ahead of their messiah?

Did the Zionists have the legal or moral right to invade Arab Palestine, uproot its Arab citizens from their homes and seize all Arab property for themselves just based on the "religious" claim that their forefathers lived there thousands of years ago? Only a thousand years ago the Moors lived in Spain. Would this give the Moors of today the legal and moral right to invade the Iberian Peninsula, drive out its Spanish citizens, and then set up a new Moroccan nation ... where Spain used to be, as the European zionists have done to our Arab brothers and sisters in Palestine?...

In short the Zionist argument to justify Israel's present occupation of Arab Palestine has no intelligent or legal basis in history ... not even in their own religion. Where is their Messiah?
 

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God would raise them up a "messiah" who would lead them to their promised land,


The Bible does teach that. Therefore, in order for Israel to be legitimate, it must be divinely created and lead by the Messiah, not by humans. On that basis, Israel has no legitimacy.
 

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Well, that's just the usual kind of crap that happens when you're guided by ancient religious documents instead of reality. Religion, as Christopher Hitchens observed, poisons everything it touches. There's a nice example in the current issue of Free Inquiry magazine, which contains an op-ed piece by Hitchens. In his debates with a Christian pastor named Douglas Wilson, whom Hitchens describes as "a man of great kindness and humour," the matter of God's command to the Israelites to destroy the Amalekites down to the last infant, plus all their livestock, as recorded in 1 Samuel, came up. Wilson argued that the divine command was legitimate. There you have it: if you believe that god wants genocide, then that's what you should do. Hitchens correctly concluded, "A humane and decent man can be obliged by religion to say an inhumane and obscene thing." The Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg put it just as succinctly: "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

I have nothing but contempt for religion.
 

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Well put, Dexter! I cannot fathom normally sane people who credit myth as either the history or prophesy!

Where do you find sane and normal people? people can sometimes be rational, logical and intelligent, but sane? And since everybody is different, that is they have a different perspective on reality based on their experiences in live, there is no such thing as normal. Personally, I think most people are either too lazy or just couldn't be bothered to question what is put in front of them.

Religion is for those who don't want to take the time to seek out the truth because with all the rubble they have to sift through to find it is a lot of work. Much easier to let someone else tell you what that is.

I like the image of the minister or priest as shepherd of the flock. Sheep exist to be fleeced.
 

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Lazy sure ignorant of course but the overriding reason,I think, is fear which the priests have exercised for ever. They have long used the peculiar human association of simultaneous fear and love for the same object. We live in fear of love in many respects I guess otherwise how is it possible to fear the god of love? I know, I should be asking a priest. The political Zionists is a priest useing fear and love to inflict war on thier own people. When was it any different?
 
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Onward Christian Soldiers - killing for Christ (or Mohammad) in the name of peace. Does boggle the mind alright.
 

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God told me to move to the Barbados but I'm not sure I should just move there legitimately or go in with a shot gun and just take a piece for myself?

What is the right thing to do?

Well tanned in SK
 

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''Religion, as Christopher Hitchens observed, poisons everything it touches.''

And yet, Hitchens supports Zionism which is supposedly based on religion.
 

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You're going to have to provide better evidence than just your statement that both those claims, that Hitchens supports Zionism and that Zionism is a religious movement, are true. I'd be very surprised if Hitchens is a Zionist, I've seen no hint of that in any of his stuff I've read, and I've always understood Zionism to be fundamentally a political movement, not a religious one, though I'd agree that sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
 

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I've always understood Zionism to be fundamentally a political movement, not a religious one, though I'd agree that sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
Zionism does not represent "the Jews". On the same thought line Al Qaeda isn't "Islam" or the Clan "the Christians" or Voodoo mambas "the blacks" or the 4H isn't the "farmers".

It's easy for people to be confused when all they know is what TV taught them because TV isn't "the news" or an authority on anything beyond selling ad time.

Religion is merely the first commercial product to ever be sold to man.

Before religion was there still a judgement by God or did you just die and feed the worms and fungi or have they sold you an after life for the price of dedication and a narrow mindset?
 
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You're going to have to provide better evidence than just your statement that both those claims, that Hitchens supports Zionism and that Zionism is a religious movement, are true. I'd be very surprised if Hitchens is a Zionist, I've seen no hint of that in any of his stuff I've read, and I've always understood Zionism to be fundamentally a political movement, not a religious one, though I'd agree that sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.


''He has described Zionism as being based on "the initial demagogic lie (actually two lies) that a land without a people needs a people without a land." Hitchens supports Israel's right to exist ...'' but condemns abuses of Palestinians.

from wikipedia

Zionism is a political movement - but it is ''jusitfied'' on biblical teaching. Actually, falsely justified is a better way to phrase it.
 

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''He has described Zionism as being based on "the initial demagogic lie (actually two lies) that a land without a people needs a people without a land."Hitchens supports Israel's right to exist ...'' but condemns abuses of Palestinians..
I get "page not found" on those three links. However, supporting Israel's right to exist doesn't make him a Zionist, and if he says Zionism is based on a demagogic lie--which certainly sounds like something he'd say--that pretty strongly suggests that he's not a Zionist and in fact deeply disapproves of it. Based on that, I'd say you've misunderstood him.
 

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If that's what you want to believe, fine.

I suggest you watch his debate with George Galloway and you may change your mind.
Okay, I've seen it now. Took me a while to get around to it, it's two hours long and I don't often have two free hours to focus on something as complex as that that isn't urgently part of my real life. I didn't hear anything that'd convince me he's a Zionist. And in looking around for other material on the subject, I came across this, in which he explicitly states he is not a Zionist.
 

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Hitchens has been known to change his mind more often than once. I hadn't seen this particular writing before but if its revelations are true, then he has changed his mind again!
 

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Well, that's just the usual kind of crap that happens when you're guided by ancient religious documents instead of reality. Religion, as Christopher Hitchens observed, poisons everything it touches. There's a nice example in the current issue of Free Inquiry magazine, which contains an op-ed piece by Hitchens. In his debates with a Christian pastor named Douglas Wilson, whom Hitchens describes as "a man of great kindness and humour," the matter of God's command to the Israelites to destroy the Amalekites down to the last infant, plus all their livestock, as recorded in 1 Samuel, came up. Wilson argued that the divine command was legitimate. There you have it: if you believe that god wants genocide, then that's what you should do. Hitchens correctly concluded, "A humane and decent man can be obliged by religion to say an inhumane and obscene thing." The Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg put it just as succinctly: "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

I have nothing but contempt for religion.
Well said!!!

Well put, Dexter! I cannot fathom normally sane people who credit myth as either the history or prophesy!
To both you and Dex...

It is a fair assessment to observe religious writings and historical accounts with a large block of salt. But archeology has created a time line and sufficient proof of the existence of many figures in the Old Testament, ie: King David, Solomon and so on.

This in no way should bolster ones attempts to use religious doctrine as a matter of proof of whatever concept. But it does lend credence to contemporary claims.

I get "page not found" on those three links. However, supporting Israel's right to exist doesn't make him a Zionist, and if he says Zionism is based on a demagogic lie--which certainly sounds like something he'd say--that pretty strongly suggests that he's not a Zionist and in fact deeply disapproves of it. Based on that, I'd say you've misunderstood him.
But Dex, he supports Israel's right to exist!!! That makes him a Zionist in the Jooo haters eyes.

I did try to find anything, and I mean anything that would indicate he supported Zionism in any way shape or form. Multiple searches failed to produce any such evidence.

Hitchens has been known to change his mind more often than once. I hadn't seen this particular writing before but if its revelations are true, then he has changed his mind again!
Though I believe this to a complete fallacy, I must say that most sane peoples train of thought will change as they grow, mature and or learn that what they once believed to be fact, is indeed a lie.

Hence your stagnant opinions and static rhetoric.