Did Michael Phelps Really Win That 7th Gold

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Did Michael Phelps Really Win That 7th Gold,
Or Was This a Conspiracy of Olympic Proportions?

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On August 15th a corporately-owned athlete by the name of Michael Phelps participated in a 100-meter Butterfly finals race at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. He was heavy favorite to win this race, despite losing the same race in qualifying session against someone who is, in an ignorant world we live in today, commonly refered to as 'some guy', but who in the world of competitive swimming is actually the 'big fish' Milorad Cavic. The world's media attention turned toward Phelps expecting him to tie Mark Spitz' 36-year-old record. The world's biggest stage was set. The show had to go on.
As it turned out, Michael Phelps did not start this race as expected. At the 50-meter mark he was only 7th out of 8th participants. Milorad Cavic led the race from start to finish, including at the 50-meter mark. Toward the end of the race, it appeared that Phelps closed on Cavic's lead, but still could not manage to beat him. The eyes of all the spectators in the aquatic center in Beijing, as well as those millions around the world, clearly saw that Milorad Cavic has won the race. Televised replays from all the different angles, including the one from underwater cameras, clearly showed that Cavic was the fist one to touch the wall. Television replays also showed Michael Phelps' coach Bob Bowman disappointedly muttering: "He's got him." (meaning that Cavic beat Phelps). Phelps' own mother sitting in the audience in all her confusion raised two fingers in the air as if accepting that her son came in second. Even Phelps himself, in the fist couple of seconds after the finish, appeared to be subdued knowing/believing that he lost the race. But, something happened there, and the official timekeeper of the event Omega showed that Phelps supposedly won by 0.01 of a second. That is 1/100th part of one second, and the lowest margin of difference allowed in the official swimming contests.
0.01 of a second?
Yes, the underwater sensors of the official timekeeper of the event, the watchmaker Omega, have determined that Michael Phelps, has won this race by 0.01 of a second.
100th of a second?
Was this an advertisement for Omega or what?


http://100thofasecond.com/
The devil is indeed in the detail. How is it that the official timekeeper of the event is the same company that sponsors Phelps since 2004? Isn't there a clear conflict of interest here? You know how deligthtfully messed up that is?? That's like having Tim Donaghy officiating in NBA games, and also placing bets on them. And why are leading FINA officials unashamedly and brazenly the biggest cheerleaders of Michael Phelps? We are not talking about NBC and other American-broadcasters who have clear interest in weaving the mythical narrative in their sickening quest for the largest share of ratings, and for purposes of appeasing (read: licking asses of) their advertisers (and therefore for their economical ends) who buy such ridiculously overpriced ad slots. We are not talking about millions of average American fans who are being assaulted by some of the biggest sport-related media hype in history (Hi Bob!). We are not talking about millions of biased American fans that only care that Phelps is an American who "kicks ass". We are not talking about millions of white Americans who rejoice and cherish the success and worldwide fame of an all-white athlete in a sport where speed, stamina and physical contributions are of outmost importance. Instead, we are talking about the officials of FINA, the supposedly neutral governing and regulating body of this sport. Think of the possibilities of inbreeding my friends. Considering that Milorad Cavic did beat Phelps head-to-head in qualifying session, and since Milorad Cavic posted better time than Phelps and everbody else in the semifinals, FINA & Omega had plenty of time to make sure that Phelps wins the final session, even if it had to be by the narrowest of allowed margins. Shame on you FINA! Shame on you Omega! Shame on you IOC for allowing this charade to unfold in front of our very own eyes!
On August 23, Omega released a set of photos which they claim provide "clear evidence" of Phelps' win. Wow! If this wasn't for real, it would've been dismissed as a bad joke. First of all, this set of photos is taken from above, and is of such poor, murky, blurry quality that nothing can even be clearly seen, let alone "proved clear". Even the mainstream media has commented that these photos are not clear. In fact, they look more like some tiny abstract impressionist paintings than the hi-def evidence needed. It is utterly ridiculous that Omega claims this as an 'evidence'. By doing so they only validate the theory that something funky happened in the Water Cube that day. Moreover, it is interesting to note how they waited one full week before releasing these ridiculous images. Are they just trying to promote themselves again. Are they just trying to enter their brand into the conversation again? In any case, we are not asking for this crap as an evidence of Phelps' win, we are asking for a high-def, high-speed underwater video that apparently FINA has in their possession, but refuses to release. We want clear visual evidence from FINA, not blurry, ****ty, tiny photos from the watchmaker Omega.
And if you think this is just about one race in some stupid sport that nobody cares about, think again.
This is the end my friend. Dumbing down of America before the marketing and media and political gods is long complete. Knowingly or not we are in it just for the sake of chasing our own tails. Eating our own young. We are part of the societal and global loop structure that is larger than the capability of our individual comprehension of the matters that concern us and our well-beings. We are pre-wired, pre-programmed, and our basic emotions and life experiences are pre-determined. We are intellectual cyborgs that have inbred and self-mutated. Worst of all -- we come with no expiration date.
So rejoice away my friends, and look forward to another manufactured spectacle brought to you by the masters of the global loop whose unwitting part you are. No amount of Bob Costas-induced stupor will change that.
But until that time, we demand that IOC cease this downright wrong practice of allowing athletes' sponsors, in individual sports, to also be the timekeepers of the events where those athletes appear. Just like people, electronics can be tinkered with. Similarly, we demand that Omega employs a third party that will certify their results. Not that that would make it a fool proof, but it would ad an extra layer of assurance. At the moment the certification is done by Omega itself. In other words, Omega certifies that Omega is telling the truth. If that's not a 'self-fellatio' we don't know what is. So as it stands, not only is the potential abuse always present, but the whole thing is completely in contravention of the original aim of the Olympic games; which was a celebration of human spirit via achievements of the human body; as opposed to today's Olympic 'spirit' which is nothing but a celebration of corporate greed and commercial excess by way of contemporary drugged-up gladiators in their pursuit of hefty endorsements and 5 minutes of fame. As late as 20 years ago the Olympics featured only amateur athletes. Since the IOC has gotten in cahoots with the greedy American and international corporations who saw a potential in planetary profits and their brand promoting and positioning on a global scale, nothing was ever the same again. Do we really believe that Usain Bolt superbly and effortlessly dominated his field because he ate sugar cereal this morning? In an age where designer steroids are being synthesized by thousands so as to avoid detection methods, is anything real any more? We now have obscenely professional U.S. athletes that are not reliably tested in their own leagues (read NBA) dominating the Olympic competition without any 'checks and balances' that are required of other Olympic athletes. You're not gonna tell us that Kobe Bryant will be required to piss in a small bottle to satisfy some test? You're not gonna tell us that a billion-dollar man-beast LeBron James will be denied his gold medal just because he was probably using human growth hormons since the time he was in a kindergarten (HGH, by the way, can't be detected by any tests). In the contemporary Olympic spectacle even horses are not safe from doping. What's next, Barry Bonds and Rafael Palmeiro lining up to get their Olympic gold with a needle hanging up their ass??
But we digress...
  • Milorad Cavic beats everybody, including Michael Phelps head-to-head (Qualifying session) at the 2008 Beijing Olympics (Source: Yahoo Olympics)
  • Milorad Cavic beats everybody, including Michael Phelps (Semifinal session) at the 2008 Beijing Olympics (Source: Yahoo Olympics)
  • Milorad Cavic beats everybody, including* Michael Phelps (Medals session) at the 2008 Beijing Olympics (Source: NBC)
  • As per those same FINA rules, Phelps' hands are clearly NOT touching the pad simultaneously. (Source: Michael Kappeler/AFP/Getty Images, August 16)



you decide i know who i say won
 

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Problem 1.) Photo 1 shows that Calvic screwed up and timed his stroke oh so wrong, his hands are now in the wrong position by **that** much, he now has to bring his hands back into another stroke and bring them forward again.

Phelps just has to bring his hands forward.

Problem 2.)

Photo 2 doesn't have a time stamp, is that before or after Phelps tapped in?

If its before then I'd say your right (providing the sensor pad is anyone on the end zone)

If the sensor pad is only on top of the pool, then Calvic also hasn't touched it yet, and he's further back from it.
 

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Problem 1.) Photo 1 shows that Calvic screwed up and timed his stroke oh so wrong, his hands are now in the wrong position by **that** much, he now has to bring his hands back into another stroke and bring them forward again.

Phelps just has to bring his hands forward.

Problem 2.)

Photo 2 doesn't have a time stamp, is that before or after Phelps tapped in?

If its before then I'd say your right (providing the sensor pad is anyone on the end zone)

If the sensor pad is only on top of the pool, then Calvic also hasn't touched it yet, and he's further back from it.

I'm not sure all the photos were from the site that published the article, as is this its not very clear from these either http://100thofasecond.com/

check out these ones see if they convince you

http://www.100thofasecond.com/darn-evidence/
 

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Cavic graciously admitted defeat? We don't know why Cavic chose to remain quiet. He knew that under those circumstances nobody was about to question and/or strip Phelps' off of his gold medal. Knowing that Cavic lives and trains in the U.S. we are probably not far off if we say that he was afraid of being labeled 'ungracious looser' by the U.S. swimming community, and the U.S. public at large. Cavic is not stupid. He also knows that his future livelihood is tied to those two. He also knows that FINA, if they wanted to, can make him 'disappear' by disqualifying him for any number of made-up reasons. He also knows that Phelps', with his rich sponsors, money and fame, is an all-powerful beast that is not to be messed around with. Why ruin the NBC Olympic saga, why deflate American kids' dreams (that they too one day can win nine, or even 19 gold medals) why spoil the good life and Phelps' moment in the historic spotlight for some gold medal that wouldn't have been nearly worth it, as much as silver medal is. Cavic is a smart man. For him silver shines brighter than gold, if you know what we mean.
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WAHHH! WAHHHH!

Sour Grapes!

Count em' baby! Seven Golds for the swimmer from the United States.
 

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WAHHH! WAHHHH!

Sour Grapes!

Count em' baby! Seven Golds for the swimmer from the United States.

Look here you wombat, i dident even watch the games ,as i think its ****,i care not how many bogus medals the US won or lost, i find it truly amusing to think that your gloating over the fact,that this guy cheated some other guy out of his right full medal one reason why i don't watch this crap,you on the other hand i can see ,watch it with your gun in ya hand nobhead
 

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Actually no,

The "proof" you posted has the same problem.

It shows that phelps has already touched the sensor and bounced back as sure it shows he touched it second.

There is no timestamp, and the bias comes off as sour grapes "Corporate owned"

What you think Phelps is some kind of Corporate Slave but that Calvic what? Got to the olympics on imagination and unicorn farts?
 
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Quandry I watched the race and ALL the replays and I really think that Phelps did get it first, its hard to see but then it is just 1/100th of a second that we are watching for. Zzarchov is right about them timing their strokes, phelps was able to get in an extra stroke and touched the pad from the top while cavic was just reaching under the water, that one last stoke by phelps gave him what he needed to get the gold.

On a second note, thats too bad that you didn't watch the olympics, they were amazing! Perhaps you will watch when they are here in canada in 18 months or in London in 4 years!
 

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Actually no,

The "proof" you posted has the same problem.

It shows that phelps has already touched the sensor and bounced back as sure it shows he touched it second.

There is no timestamp, and the bias comes off as sour grapes "Corporate owned"

What you think Phelps is some kind of Corporate Slave but that Calvic what? Got to the olympics on imagination and unicorn farts?

You could be right, its just i saw this article and thought it worth talking over, if that's what's happen then fair enough,its not written in stone is it whatever happened, like i said i do not watch the games ,so i have no real way of knowing what took place,had i seen it maybe i could argue the case, but seeing as i did not i can not ...:lol:
 

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Quandry I watched the race and ALL the replays and I really think that Phelps did get it first, its hard to see but then it is just 1/100th of a second that we are watching for. Zzarchov is right about them timing their strokes, phelps was able to get in an extra stroke and touched the pad from the top while cavic was just reaching under the water, that one last stoke by phelps gave him what he needed to get the gold.

On a second note, thats too bad that you didn't watch the olympics, they were amazing! Perhaps you will watch when they are here in canada in 18 months or in London in 4 years!

Like i said i trust Zzarchov answer and yours ,as i did not see it.
I doubt i will see the next Olympics either as in my mind the moneys wasted on such events could be better spent, on the poor or underprivileged ,that's just my opinion ,the athletes in my mind are due respect for there dedication and commitment,but i feel it should be done with less pomp and ceremony,and less moneys spent i mean how much does it cost to fund an Olympic games millions ,and to me that's too much.
 

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Look here you wombat, i dident even watch the games ,as i think its ****,i care not how many bogus medals the US won or lost, i find it truly amusing to think that your gloating over the fact,that this guy cheated some other guy out of his right full medal one reason why i don't watch this crap,you on the other hand i can see ,watch it with your gun in ya hand nobhead

Weeeee are the Champions...my frieeend.

Seven GOLDS for ONE US Olympian. Almost half as many as England got combined.

I'll gloat over any one who has Sour Grapes on any day.
 

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You mean eight golds I think, no?

Sour grapes indeed. Phelps is the man. Fourteen Gold medals in his olympic career, with good years ahead of him yet.

Cheated? I think not.