UK Gov In Turmoil & Bexit Mess.


Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#1

Speaker of the British House of Commons, John Bercow, says he will step down


The speaker, who has been a colorful and controversial part of the Brexit debate, announced he would not seek reelection. He said he will stand aside on Oct. 31 if, as expected, lawmakers this evening fail to approve an early election. The date is significant because Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said Britain will leave the European Union by then, ��do or die.��

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...t-world&wpmk=1
 
Blackleaf
#2
A victory for the Leavers! Good riddance to this vile Remain Commons Speaker!

I thoroughly support Deputy Speaker Lindsay Hoyle, the Labour MP for Chorley and a hard Brexiteer, becoming the new Speaker.


John Bercow says he will stand down as Commons Speaker and MP at the next election or on 31 October, whichever comes first.

Speaking in Parliament, Mr Bercow said his 10-year "tenure" was nearing its end and it had been the "greatest honour and privilege" to serve.

If there was no early election, he said 31 October would be the "least disruptive and most democratic" date.

The ex-Tory MP succeeded the late Michael Martin as Speaker in 2009.

He has faced fierce criticism from Brexiteers, who have questioned his impartiality on the issue of Europe and claim he has facilitated efforts by MPs opposed to a no-deal exit to take control of Commons business.

Who is John Bercow?
He has also been criticised for not doing more to tackle allegations of bullying and harassment in the House of Commons.

Mr Bercow himself has been accused of mistreating several members of his own staff, which he denies.

In a break from normal convention, Mr Bercow was facing a challenge from the Conservatives in his Buckingham constituency at the next election - whenever it is called.

His wife, Sally, was in the public gallery as he made his announcement - which comes just hours before Parliament is due to be suspended or prorogued for five weeks.

Mr Bercow said he had decided at the time of the 2017 election that this would be his last Parliament as Speaker.

Brexit delay
If MPs reject calls for an early election later on Monday, as seems likely, the Speaker said it was important an "experienced figure" chaired debates in the final week of October leading up to the UK's possible exit from the EU.

The period between 14 October - when the Queen will open the new session of Parliament and the government announces its new legislative programme - and 31 October is likely to be among the most eventful and unpredictable in living memory.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said he will not ask for a further Brexit delay and the UK must leave the EU on Halloween.


Mr Bercow received a standing ovation after his announcement, although not all Tories joined in

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49639828
 
Blackleaf
#3
It's 11:16pm and MPs are still debating and haven't even voted yet on whether to grant Johnson the snap election that he wants.

We all know which way the vote will go, of course. There are a shitload of Remainer MPs who are shitscared of facing their constituents.

Johnson has just told the Commons again that he will NOT extend Article 50 beyond Halloween.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

It's 11:16pm and MPs are still debating and haven't even voted yet on whether to grant Johnson the snap election that he wants.

We all know which way the vote will go, of course. There are a shitload of Remainer MPs who are shitscared of facing their constituents.

Johnson has just told the Commons again that he will NOT extend Article 50 beyond Halloween.

Halloween could get a new symbolism........significance.
 
Blackleaf
+1
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Halloween could get a new symbolism........significance.

Oh yeah. We can dress up as ghosts whilst watching our Independence Day fireworks every year.

Can't wait. What fun!
 
Blackleaf
#6
The debate on an early election is still going in the Commons, approaching midnight.

Johnson has just said:

"I will not ask for another delay."

"The people of this country have had enough of the delectable disputations of this House and I must warn members that their behaviour in thwarting the will of the people is undermining respect for this House in the country."

Slimeball Remainer SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford has just said:

"We want an election, but we don't want it on the prime minister's terms."

Remainers have been calling on Boris to call an election for weeks - now that's he's called their bluff they are all in a dither. In reality, they are too terrified to face their constituents.
 
Blackleaf
#7
Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson says after 21 MPs were effectively thrown out of the Tory party, "it is time that others in the Conservative Party also examine their consciences about what they can do and the role that they are playing in all of this".



Jo Swimsuit should examine HER conscience. A quarter of her MPs weren't even elected as Lib Dems.

Yet how many of these Remainer defectors have called for by-elections?

The answer is: zero.

Liberal UNdemocrats.

Examine your conscience, Jo, love.
 
Blackleaf
#8
Remainers are too scared to face the electorate!


The government has been defeated on a motion pushing for an early general election because not enough MPs supported the PM’s call.


Under the 2011 Fixed Term Parliaments Acts, Boris Johnson needed the support of at least two-thirds of the 650 MPs - at least 434 - to trigger an early poll.


But only 293 MPs voted for an election – with 46 against.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#9

British Parliament again rejects Johnson��s call for early elections, further narrowing the beleaguered prime minister��s options


Parliament is scheduled to be suspended tonight until mid-October. Boris Johnson��s political opponents are concerned he will somehow defy a new law that seeks to avert a no-deal Brexit on Oct. 31 and effectively compels him to request another three-month delay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1
 
Blackleaf
#10
Johnson accuses Corbyn of being a "yellow belly" and states that "Hell will freeze over" before Corbyn lets the people decide on Brexit.

 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Johnson accuses Corbyn of being a "yellow belly" and states that "Hell will freeze over" before Corbyn lets the people decide on Brexit.

Watching all this in the background....on BBC.............

What happened to the Brit decorum, proper protocol , tact and diplomacy??

Name calling!! such heavy handed verbosity.

They might want to remember that whatever they come up with.......the EU must go along with.. ..if they are going to get along with the EU in the future. Don't think the UK can go it alone.......in an isolationist fashion. No nation can ....not anymore. Complicated process made more difficult with personality issues.
 
Blackleaf
+1
#12
Jeremy Corbyn and Remainers ever since Boris became PM: "Boris needs to hold an election to give himself a mandate."

After a few weeks, Boris: "I want to hold an election."

Corbyn and Remainers: "Oh no, you're not!"

That's truly how things have panned out. Bizarre!

And then you've got the Labour Party saying they want to negotiate a new deal with the EU and then vote AGAINST that deal.

Bizarre!
 
Blackleaf
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post


What happened to the Brit decorum, proper protocol , tact and diplomacy??

The Remainers chucked it out of the window.

Quote:

Don't think the UK can go it alone.......

I DO think that.

Quote:

in an isolationist fashion.

What's isolationist about not being in the EU? Almost 90% of all countries aren't in it, you dimwit.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#14
Brussels BREXIT Negotiator ADMITS: Boris and Farage Together Will DESTROY the EU!!!

Dr. Steve Turley
Published on Sep 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-rR2M53VU

Well this could be a darn good show.



Putin, Johnson and Farage will destroy us, warns EU chief

The toxic combination of Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, populism, the rise of the far right and Russia will destroy the European Union, the chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels has told The Times.

Guy Verhofstadt, the former Belgian prime minister who leads Brexit talks for the European parliament, compared Mr Johnson, the favourite to be the next Conservative prime minister, to Marine Le Pen, the French far-right leader, warning that they both represented a “huge” threat.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...ator-jwvhpk2p3

WEll THAT sure explains May's lies about Putie.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Jeremy Corbyn and Remainers ever since Boris became PM: "Boris needs to hold an election to give himself a mandate."

After a few weeks, Boris: "I want to hold an election."

Corbyn and Remainers: "Oh no, you're not!"

That's truly how things have panned out. Bizarre!

And then you've got the Labour Party saying they want to negotiate a new deal with the EU and then vote AGAINST that deal.

Bizarre!

Bizarre...... You have that right.

Confusion is taking hold of a complicated situation.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Brussels BREXIT Negotiator ADMITS: Boris and Farage Together Will DESTROY the EU!!!

Dr. Steve Turley
Published on Sep 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-rR2M53VU

Well this could be a darn good show.



Putin, Johnson and Farage will destroy us, warns EU chief

The toxic combination of Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, populism, the rise of the far right and Russia will destroy the European Union, the chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels has told The Times.

Guy Verhofstadt, the former Belgian prime minister who leads Brexit talks for the European parliament, compared Mr Johnson, the favourite to be the next Conservative prime minister, to Marine Le Pen, the French far-right leader, warning that they both represented a “huge” threat.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...ator-jwvhpk2p3

WEll THAT sure explains May's lies about Putie.

The problem is that few are looking for a "good show"........in something as critical as this.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The Remainers chucked it out of the window.



I DO think that.



What's isolationist about not being in the EU? Almost 90% of all countries aren't in it, you dimwit.

Well.....good luck going it alone.

Calling posters names reflects BADLY on you........
 
Blackleaf
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Brussels BREXIT Negotiator ADMITS: Boris and Farage Together Will DESTROY the EU!!!

Dr. Steve Turley
Published on Sep 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI-rR2M53VU
Well this could be a darn good show.

Putin, Johnson and Farage will destroy us, warns EU chief
The toxic combination of Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, populism, the rise of the far right and Russia will destroy the European Union, the chief Brexit negotiator in Brussels has told The Times.
Guy Verhofstadt, the former Belgian prime minister who leads Brexit talks for the European parliament, compared Mr Johnson, the favourite to be the next Conservative prime minister, to Marine Le Pen, the French far-right leader, warning that they both represented a “huge” threat.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...ator-jwvhpk2p3
WEll THAT sure explains May's lies about Putie.


The EU has been shitting itself ever since Boris became PM. He's no May, weakly surrendering to every EUSSR demand. And just imagine the bricks that Brussels will shit if Boris teamed up with Nigel.


Still, my reckoning is that the EUSSR will shitf£ck itself to death before Britain destroys it.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Well.....good luck going it alone.

Thanks.

Not that we need it, of course.

Quote:

Calling posters names reflects BADLY on you........

What posters and what names?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The EU has been shitting itself ever since Boris became PM. He's no May, weakly surrendering to every EUSSR demand. And just imagine the bricks that Brussels will shit if Boris teamed up with Nigel.


Still, my reckoning is that the EUSSR will shitf£ck itself to death before Britain destroys it.

is THAT Britain's objective??i
 
Blackleaf
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

is THAT Britain's objective??i

As long as Britain leaves the EU, I don't give a flying frig.

Once Britain leaves, other countries will follow suit. Italy is next, is my reckoning. Followed then by Greece.

The EU is f&cked.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+2
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

is THAT Britain's objective??i

"Forgive him, Theodosius, for he is a barbarian, and believes that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature."

-- Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra
 
Blackleaf
#23
Boris is set to make Bercow the first Speaker in 230 years to not get a peerage.
 
Blackleaf
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

"Forgive him, Theodosius, for he is a barbarian, and believes that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature."

-- Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra

Oh, yeah, definitely.

I should point out to Mr Theodosius, however, that the vast majority of Britain's laws are created, and foisted upon us, by the EU. And many of the said laws I wholeheartedly disagree with (nice try, though, Mr T, but you'll have to come up with something more special to beat ME)

The EU is an anti-American organisation.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Sep 9th, 2019 at 07:45 PM..
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Boris is set to make Bercow the first Speaker in 230 years to not get a peerage.

BoreJo is fixing to be the shortest-tenured PM since Walpole.
 
Blackleaf
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

BoreJo is fixing to be the shortest-tenured PM since Walpole.

How? Not only is Canning the shortest-serving PM but Parliament has voted against Boris's offer of a snap election.
 
Blackleaf
#27
So not only has Churchill's grandson been sacked by Boris for his treacherous Remainer activities, but now Wellington's descendant, the Duke of Wellington, has resigned from the Tories because of Brexit and Boris.

What will great British war heroes and former PMs Churchill and Wellington think of their weak, pussy, ancestors wanting to surrender Great Britain to foreign rule?

Yes, Nicholas and Arthur. You've done your great ancestors proud...




Last edited by Blackleaf; Sep 9th, 2019 at 08:06 PM..
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#28

U.K. Parliament again rejects Boris Johnson’s call for an early election, narrowing the besieged prime minister’s options


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1
 
Blackleaf
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post


U.K. Parliament again rejects Boris Johnson’s call for an early election, narrowing the besieged prime minister’s options

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1

Well we know he'll still be PM - Parliament may not like him and not want him to be PM but it still wants him to be PM, remember (sounds weird, but it's true).

Parliament is saying it will bring out a law to make No Deal illegal - even though Parliament made it legal (sounds weird, but it's true).

But there are two spanners in the works for this weird, contradictory, Remainer Parliament: France and Boris.

France has said it will veto an extension to Article 50, meaning a No Deal Brexit on Halloween, and Boris has said he will just ignore that law making No Deal illegal, meaning a No Deal Brexit on Halloween.

So what are the Remainer going to do now?

They have, shockingly, threatened to send Boris to jail if he did such a thing, but they are bluffing: they know the outrage that would be caused around the country if they sent the PM to prison for honouring a democratic vote. There be bloodshed and carnage. He'd be a martyr to the Brexit cause.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Sep 9th, 2019 at 08:54 PM..
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well we know he'll still be PM - Parliament may not like him and not want him to be PM but it still wants him to be PM, remember (sounds weird, but it's true).

Parliament is saying it will bring out a law to make No Deal illegal - even though Parliament made it legal (sounds weird, but it's true).

But there are two spanners in the works for this weird, contradictory, Remainer Parliament: France and Boris.

France has said it will veto an extension to Article 50, meaning a No Deal Brexit on Halloween, and Boris has said he will just ignore that law making No Deal illegal, meaning a No Deal Brexit on Halloween.

So what are the Remainer going to do now?

They have, shockingly, threatened to send Boris to jail if he did such a thing, but they are bluffing: they know the outrage that would be caused around the country if they sent the PM to prison for honouring a democratic vote. There be bloodshed and carnage. He'd be a martyr to the Brexit cause.

He is behaving in a tRumpian way.........where the law is concerned & recognized only as it suits him.

That can only render cracks in the civility that still exits.

Don't think that BOJO is as mentally disordered as Trump is........but he is very over bearing, aggressive and single minded. He can be off putting. They are NOT "strength ......and not the kind of qualities needed in effective leaders.