Canada PM on Pipeline Plan: Oil to Come Anyway BY RAIL


petros
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I warned ya silly Greens...

"The only real immediate environmental issue here is, do we want to increase the flow of oil from Canada by pipeline or via rail?" Harper said. He called railroad transit "far more environmentally challenging."


Canada PM on Pipeline Plan: Oil to Come Anyway - ABC News
 
lone wolf
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Oh, Via Rail be a bad thing.... Passengers complain and tanks wouldn't look right on the Canadian....
 
Zipperfish
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Ultimatums to a more powerful agent rarely work. That said, it's the US--it'll come down to local politics.
 
petros
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The next ultimatum? How about no more frakked gas from New England imported into Canada?

*** for tat is always cute.
 
Zipperfish
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t*t-for-tat is another game that doesn't work against an asymetrical opponent.
 
B00Mer
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Found photo of petros..



An alien race bent on heating up the earth's environment.. "The Arrival" with Charlie Sheen.

 
Nuggler
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"""Environmental groups have been pressuring President Barack Obama to reject the pipeline, saying it would carry "dirty oil" that contributes to global warming. They also worry about a spill."""

Wait till they get a nice derailment. !!

Oy.

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Found photo of petros..



An alien race bent on heating up the earth's environment.. "The Arrival" with Charlie Sheen.


Petros is always ahead of the game. A few more years of environmental damage, smoggy air, polluted water, eating Con horseshlt, we may all look like that.

better lookin than that damn avatar............sheesh.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zipperfish View Post

t*t-for-tat is another game that doesn't work against an asymetrical opponent.

What is Harper fighting against? Environmentalists or nat gas backed Obama Democrats? All the so called "Red States" are having sh*t frakked out of them. How come?
 
Zipperfish
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What is Harper fighting against? Environmentalists or nat gas backed Obama Democrats? All the so called "Red States" are having sh*t frakked out of them. How come?

It's politics. The Keystone pipeline has become a symbolic divide. You got yahoos chaining themselves to teh White House on the one side and on the other, a Republican party that has made, and will continue to make, the pipeline an election issue.

North Dakota is the new Fort McMoney, apparently.
 
petros
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Anywhere in the Bakken or Midale formations is the place to be but yeah, Williston ND is hopping.

1 in 8 bbbls is to be ND oil going down the XL and then there are the other 6-8 lines to follow.
 
Cobalt_Kid
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A controversial oil pipeline to the U.S. Gulf Coast "absolutely needs to go ahead," Canada's prime minister said Thursday, and he warned that the oil will be transported through America one way or another.

A few massive derailments and you'd have armed Americans stopping trains. If Harper thinks he has the power to ram oil trough a country where many people don't want it flowing, either by rail or pipeline, then he's even more nuts than his actions so far make him out to be.

People talk about the arrogance of P.E.T., but I've never seen a Canadian act the way Harper does.

Carbon dioxide has already been legally determined to be a pollutant in the US and emissions must eventually be regulated, making something like the oil sands in the form they are currently being run almost impossible to legally support in the US.

Instead of trying to find ways to reduce emissions and create some accountability within the oil industry Harper is acting as if he works for them and not Canadians.

Massachusetts v. Environmental Protection Agency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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On remand, EPA found that six greenhouse gases “in the atmosphere may reasonably be anticipated both to endanger public health and to endanger public welfare.” On February 16, 2010, the states of Alabama, Texas, and Virginia and several other parties sought judicial review of EPA's determination in the U.S. Court of Appeals, District of Columbia Circuit. On June 26, 2012, the court issued an opinion which dismissed the challenges to the EPA's endangerment finding and the related GHG regulations.[14] The three-judge panel unanimously upheld the EPA's central finding that GHG such as carbon dioxide endanger public health and were likely responsible for the global warming experienced over the past half century.

If Americans don't support continued pollution on a massive scale and the risk of epic spills of heavy crude coming from Canada, then I seriously doubt our PM threatening them is going to do much good.

We need a PM who represents Canada, not the oil industry which the best evidence indicates is on the way out.
 
petros
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A few massive derailments and you'd have armed Americans stopping trains. If
Harper thinks he has the power to ram oil trough a country where many people
don't want it flowing, either by rail or pipeline, then he's even more nuts than
his actions so far make him out to be.

Or you're stupider than you look and smell. it's going south whether you, or a whack of stinky hippies wants it or not.

Be it by pipe, rail or floating it down the Mississippi it's going to the Delta on the Gulf Coast. No amount arm flapping by ignorant moonbeams can stop it.

The announcement wasn't to say Canada wants it to go south, it was an announcement to let the moonbeams know they lost AGAIN and it's on it's way.

Where were you creeps 35 years ago when it all started? Getting high under a bridge?

The only way you greenie weenies can stop it is to buy it out. Do you and your stinky hippy friends have a couple of $trillion kicking around in change?
 
Mowich
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Quote: Originally Posted by Nuggler View Post

"""Environmental groups have been pressuring President Barack Obama to reject the pipeline, saying it would carry "dirty oil" that contributes to global warming. They also worry about a spill."""

Meanwhile the EPA is gutted. Checks on pipelines and refineries are a joke in the States......... and they still keep taking the tops off Appalachian mountains for all that 'clean coal'.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cobalt_Kid View Post

A few massive derailments and you'd have armed Americans stopping trains.

Sure they would, kid. Just like they get out and protest against the enormous cost to the environment from the proliferation of massive pig and cattle feed lots. Just like they give a hoot about refineries that time and again fail to have checks and balances resulting in explosions and spills. Give your head a shake.


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If Harper thinks he has the power to ram oil trough a country where many people don't want it flowing, either by rail or pipeline, then he's even more nuts than his actions so far make him out to be.

yada, yada, yada

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People talk about the arrogance of P.E.T., but I've never seen a Canadian act the way Harper does.

You haven't been around long, have you.

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Carbon dioxide has already been legally determined to be a pollutant in the US and emissions must eventually be regulated,

Oh yeah...........I can see the Republicans lining up for that..........NOT!



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making something like the oil sands in the form they are currently being run almost impossible to legally support in the US.

There is absolutely nothing illegal about the way oil is being extracted - it is dirty and messy but it is NOT illegal.

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If Americans don't support continued pollution on a massive scale and the risk of epic spills of heavy crude coming from Canada, then I seriously doubt our PM threatening them is going to do much good.

Threats?? What frickin threats? Earth calling kid!

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We need a PM who represents Canada, not the oil industry which the best evidence indicates is on the way out.

Are you on heavy meds? Seriously, kid. Oil on the way out? Where do you get this stuff?
 

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