Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Didn't read the article did you!!
Quote:" By 2017, however, about half originated from domestic sources, putting an end to the idea that most of Canada’s illegal guns come from across the border, Det. Rob Di Danieli of the guns and gangs unit said"
If the legal gun owners deliberately sell guns to crooks and killers how can legal gun owners protest that gun control does nothing?? READ!! Don't end up like Trump!!
See lonely George , as is obvious I don’t care , you on the other hand harbour I’ll feelings . Keep following me around making yourself small . It suits a Poor Lonely Little Loser like George . By the way , have a good evening .
http://www.kbia.org/post/youth-suic...gh-gun-ownership-according-new-study#stream/0
data shows strong correlation between rates of gun ownership and youth suicide
data shows strong correlation between rates of gun ownership and youth suicide
Of course they are not.......
Source:https://firearmrights.ca/en/50-of-crime-guns-did-not-come-from-legal-gun-owners/
Voluntary self destruction is not a reason to destroy individual rights.
Guess what?
Actions have consequences.
Sticking a pistol in your mouth and trying to pull the trigger twice has dramatic consequences.
So don't do it.
OK.
The article is bullshit.
First of all, they consider any gun seized a "crime gun", whether it was used in a crime or not.
Secondly, they consider all BB guns, paintball guns, pellet guns etc as firearms, and therefore "crime guns". They are all "domestically sourced" and do make up a significant number of guns seized.
Thirdly, they (correctly) consider all homemade guns "domestically sourced"......but they do not come from legal owners.......and yes, they are becoming more common.
Fourth, they lump long guns and handguns together.
They are lying to you.
Read this article, from the notoriously anti-gun CBC.
http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2018/12/03/the-gun-debate-in-canada-where-lies-truth-part-1/
I'll print the conclusions for you:
- about a third of “crime guns” seized by police aren’t firearms at all.
- The claimed number of domestically sourced crime guns stated by the federal government, some police officers, and by gun-control lobby groups is wildly exaggerated at best
- The claimed number of straw purchases stated by the federal government, some police officers, and by gun-control lobby groups is wildly exaggerated at best
READ!! Don't end up like Trump!!
Since hanging is the most common form of suicide.....maybe the government should issue permits to buy rope?
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/82-624-x/2012001/article/11696-eng.htm
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/82-624-x/2012001/article/11696-eng.htm
Blacks would not need or use guns so often if only their lives were better organized!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you LIE-berals for SCREWING THINGS UP SO BADLY THAT BLACKS THINK GUNS ARE THE ONLY SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And thank you LIE-berals FOR CALLING US RACISTS WHEN GUN CARRYING BLACKS GET SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets consider how LIE-berals are screwing up black lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an article illustrating that some Black people have a major attitude problem! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Aretha's funeral and the no. 1 problem in the black community
By Larry Elder
Published: September 9, 2018. Updated: September 9, 2018 6:00 PM EDT
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
President Donald Trump took a pounding at the services for Aretha Franklin. The Rev. Al Sharpton took Trump to task for supposedly demonstrating a lack of respect by saying, “She worked for me on numerous occasions.” Other speakers took shots at the president either by name or by implication for his supposed racism and bigotry.
(Hey- NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!! If you have a billion dollars- then MOST PEOPLE have worked for you one way or another!)
Onstage, in the front row, sat Sharpton, Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and former president Bill Clinton, all of whom know a thing or two about racism and bigotry. Their careers depend on exaggerating the extent and the impact of anti-black white racism.
At a rally in Harlem in 1991, Sharpton said, “If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house.” A few days later, a young black boy was accidentally killed when struck by a car driven by a Hasidic Jew. For three nights, Jews in Crown Heights were subjected to what one Columbia University professor called “a modern-day pogrom” in which two people died and almost 200 were injured. On day two of the riots, Sharpton led a march of about 400 protesters in Crown Heights, shouting, “No justice, no peace.” Days later, Sharpton referred derisively to Jews living in Crown Heights as “diamond merchants.” A few years later, Sharpton called whites moving businesses into Harlem “interlopers.”
(Gosh!!! Such talk does not sound very peaceful or tolerant!)
Sitting next to Sharpton at Franklin’s funeral was Farrakhan, whose hand Clinton shook. As recently as February 2018, Farrakhan said: “Jews were responsible for all of this filth and degenerate behaviour that Hollywood is putting out, turning men into women and women into men. White folks are going down. And Satan is going down. And Farrakhan, by God’s grace, has pulled the cover off of that Satanic Jew, and I’m here to say your time is up. Your world is through.”
Sitting on Sharpton’s other side was Jackson. In 1984, in what Jackson thought was an off-the-record conversation, he referred to Jews as “Hymies” and New York City as “Hymietown.” A Washington Post reporter, Milton Coleman, reported Jackson’s use of the slur. At first, Jackson denied it. Farrakhan threatened Coleman — a black man — by saying, “If you harm this brother, I warn you in the name of Allah this will be the last one you harm.”
This brings us to Clinton, who sat next to Jackson. Clinton, according to “Game Change,” the well-received book about the 2008 presidential campaign, contacted Sen. Ted Kennedy to seek his support for Hillary Clinton’s candidacy. “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee,” Clinton said of then-presidential candidate Barack Obama. Offended, Kennedy told a friend about what he considered Clinton’s racist put-down.
These four onstage — Farrakhan, Sharpton, Jackson and Clinton — have earned a nice living promoting the bogus anti-black-white-racism-remains-a-serious-problem narrative. But at the funeral, one pastor dared to point to the elephant in the room.
The Rev. Jasper Williams Jr. of Salem Bible Church in Atlanta said in his eulogy: “Where is your soul, black man? As I look in your house, there are no fathers in the home no more.” He said children need both a “provider” and a “nurturer.” He criticized the Black Lives Matter movement: “It amazes me how it is when the police kills one of us we’re ready to protest, march, destroy innocent property. We’re ready to loot, steal whatever we want, but when we kill 100 of us, nobody says anything; nobody does anything. Black-on-black crime, we’re all doing time. We’re locked up in our mind. There’s got to be a better way. We must stop this today.”
(And sadly any black person who speaks to cops about which black shot another black is too often regarded as a SNITCH - not a peace keeper!)
The pastor, who decades earlier gave a eulogy for Aretha Franklin’s father, got hammered for choosing such a time and place for this “put-down.” Even members of the Franklin family rebuked Williams. It is one thing to turn the memorial into a Trump-bashing festival, but a sermon that includes an admonition about accepting personal responsibility, well, that tears it.
(Yes- it is so much easier just to blame white devils for black failings!)
Pastor Williams later defended himself, saying, “I’m sure much of the negativity is due to the fact that they don’t understand what I’m talking about.” He means that many are unaware that almost 70 percent of black kids today are brought into the world by a mother and father who aren’t married. That is about 33 percent higher than the percentage of Hispanics and almost 2 1/2 times the percentage of whites.
(There is ample thoroughly proven evidence that kids raised in single parent homes have all manner of troubles -fro m poor performance in school, to lack higher education, to increased abuse of drugs and alcohol, to mental health issues and greater difficulty holding a job! Such gloomy life outcomes hold for BOTH black and white kids raised in single parent homes!)
Williams said: “Anybody who thinks black America is all right as we are now is crazy. We’re not all right. It’s a lot of change that needs to occur. This change must come from within us. Nobody can give us things to eliminate where we are. We have to change from within ourselves.”
Excellent advice. Perhaps Messrs. Sharpton, Farrakhan, Jackson and Clinton were listening.
(Sadly, LIE-berals everywhere have proven that THEIR PERSONAL SUCCESS depends on exploiting the most selfish and base of human emotions- such as greed and envy!)
Larry Elder is a best-selling author and nationally syndicated radio talk-show host.
How about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The normally LIE-beral loving CBC actually produced some statistics that prove LIE-berals ARE LYING ABOUT CRIME AND GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course CBC has this proof on a rather obscure part of their web site and WOULD NEVER consider putting it into their main stream nightly news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the famous LIE-beral habit of BURYING THE LEAD- roughly hiding the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CBC does not like to be accused of being a shameless mouthpiece for LIE-berals and so they tell an EDITED VERSION of the truth!
Stuff that makes LIE-berals LOOK GOOD goes on the front page- and is often re-worded and REPEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stuff that makes LIE-berals look BAD is played ON THE BACK PAGE IN SMALL PRINT ONCE AND THEN FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With CBC HYPOCRITES PRETENDING this is open and even handed journalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Counting pellet guns- that are NOT FIRE ARMS- in crime statistics is a DELIBERATE LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And LIE-berals are now whining that Cdns do not get their news from main stream media any more?????????????????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cdns do not object to police back ground checks and mandatory fire arms training!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What they object to is this: that they pay for the police background checks, they pay for the mandated firearm training, they pay for the LIE-beral gun ownership license, they pay hundreds of dollars for a firearm, they pay for the duck hunting license.................. AND THEN............................
Because some STUPID pack of black gang bangers - who are only in the country thanks to LIE-beral immigration FAILURES- start shooting each other - LIE-beral hug a thug judges then decide the solution to all crime is to CONFISCATE firearms from LAW ABIDING CDNS!!!!!!!!
WITHOUT EVEN ANY FINANCIAL COMPENSATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And in defiance of proven records from other democratic countries that if legal firearms are all confiscated - it makes criminals BOLDER since they know the public is UNARMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE can be sure that after the death of COULTON BOUSHIE and the NOT GUILTY VERDICT for farmer Gerard Stanley - that native thieves became MORE CAREFUL of avoiding confrontations with farmers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are Lying to you.
From the Canadian Shooting Sports Association:
COMMENTARY
Why Does the Government Fabricate
Statistics on Stolen Guns?
Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale posted a cute infographic titled, “Break and Enter to Steal Firearms” on Twitterhttp://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001Toia...8YzmPX-Y7Rk7w-dZMJdY5kFD7OWNrzkf1jg_vFNMLJQ== on March 7, 2018, during his Guns and Gangs Summit. That graphic showed over 1,200 break-ins to steal firearms and cited Statistics Canada as the data source.
Where those numbers really come from is a mystery as Statistics Canada data shreds Minister Goodale’s credibility.
Total break-ins to steal guns[ii] went from 5 in 2013 to a high of 18 in 2016 and 2017, not north of 1,200.
Public Safety also didn’t “confuse” break-ins to steal guns with the total number of break-ins either. From 2013 to 2017, that number[iii] was roughly 22,500 per year.
Goodale’s infographic is a total fabrication, a propaganda piece – a lie.
Four months later, in an interview[iv] on CBC’s The House, Minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction, Bill Blair, stated guns used in crime are “often stolen or illegally diverted or smuggled in from the United States.”
A search of court decisions, newspaper articles and Commissioner of Firearms Reports 2003-2016 shows only 24 cases where people were convicted for “illegally diverting” firearms to criminals.
This includes former RCMP member David Alan Kift, convicted of selling guns to gangs in 2006[v] and convicted again in 2014[vi] for violating his Firearm Prohibition Order along with 60 other firearm-related charges.
Esteemed researcher Dennis Young wanted to get to the bottom of the statements made by Ministers Goodale and Blair so he filed the following Access to Information request:
“For each of the years 2001 to 2017 and for each province and territory, please provide copies of records, reports and statistics showing the number of firearms stolen in Canada and where they were stolen from.”
The government’s response?
“A thorough search was conducted and Public Safety Canada was unable to locate any records responding to your request.”[vii]
· What is the real source of the statistics in Ralph Goodale’s pretty infographic?
· On what does Bill Blair base his claim that guns are “often stolen or illegally diverted?”
· Why do government ministers continually deceive Canadians?
· And when will our bought-and-paid-for media outlets start behaving like real journalists and ask the hard questions required to get to the truth our government keeps hiding from Canadians?
Canada's lawful firearm owners are tired of being lied about and manipulated for political ends. We are tired of being the scapegoat for the inability of politicians to deal with crime. Call and/or write your Member of Parliament and demand they tell the truth about gun ownership in Canada.
Most importantly, remember this when you vote next October.
PS: A heartfelt “THANK YOU” to the handful of skilled journalists that have the integrity to print the truth about firearm ownership in Canada. We appreciate you!
Sources
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001Toia...8YzmPX-Y7Rk7w-dZMJdY5kFD7OWNrzkf1jg_vFNMLJQ== https://twitter.com/ralphgoodale/status/971433487667404800
[ii] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl...017701&pickMembers[0]=1.1&pickMembers[1]=2.36
[iii] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl...017701&pickMembers[0]=1.1&pickMembers[1]=2.35
[iv] https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1287252547509/
[v] https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2014/2014oncj625/2014oncj625.html
[vi] https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2014/2014oncj454/2014oncj454.html
[vii] https://dennisryoung.ca/wp-content/...nse-No-Records-on-Stolen-Guns-Oct-25-2018.pdf
THERE IS a good reason for calling them what I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals have turned our ENTIRE SOCIETY into a civilization of LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All seeking govt gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Consider the kind of crap Toronto Housing Authority routinely spews:
Here is an article illustrating the ugly arrogance of Toronto Community Housing Corp Grand Poobahs!!!!!!!!!!!! With some comments of my own in brackets):
TCHC sitting on 3,628 vacant units amid cries for more affordable housing.
By Sue-Ann Levy.
Published: November 3, 2018. Updated: November 3, 2018 6:16 PM EDT
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Toronto & GTA
A TCHC home with 11 units at 237 Sherbourne St. in Toronto, Ont. on Monday October 29, 2018. It has been sitting vacant for 2 years. Ernest Doroszuk/Toronto Sun/Postmedia
For two years, Toronto Community Housing Corporation (TCHC) tenant Murray Bevan has watched the home behind him sit vacant while the homeless and drug-addicted that frequent the area loiter in the alleyway beside his Sherbourne and Dundas building.
The 11-unit home at 237 Sherbourne St., he says, is part of their high-rise property but since it got destroyed by the drug-addicted, it has essentially sat empty.
(And of course this is the same problem that afflicts HUNDREDS of properties- most of them smaller and older buildings- and quite frequently single family dwellings! TCHC does not have the cash to bring the structures back to a habitable state! And yet they still have to PAY for the structures- grass must be cut, sidewalks plowed, security people must come around and do their best to keep the places closed up and prevent squatters and addicts from taking over, and there are also scrap dealers who would happily strip out copper pipe and wiring if the buildings were not secured!)
(TCHC cannot afford to repair hundreds of derelict units- and the city is bankrupt as well- but TCHC DOES HAVE great gobs of gravy to give out as “performance bonuses” to their grand poobahs -even as the unpaid rents owed by drug dealers and hookers increases steadily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(TCHC cannot repair its slums, cannot collect on rents owed and CLAIMS it cannot evict cheating thugs- but bonuses are NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(AS former mayor Rob Ford PROVED- if TCHC could be forced to sell some of the derelict single family dwellings then there would be cash freed up and available for repairs to multi unit TCHC buildings that ARE STILL SALVAGEABLE!!!!! Such action is a MULTI WIN!)
(Selling derelict single family dwellings eases TCHC costs for their basic security and rough maintenance! It provides repair money for other structures! And once the sold off properties are nicely renovated- generating jobs as the work is being done- they then become real estate tax generators for the city! How could this be bad? Unless you are a pig headed LIE-beral or union HOG??????????)
When he’s asked TCHC brass why the house is just sitting there vacant, he’s been variously told that an agency is taking it over or that there’s no money for capital repairs.
Indeed TCHC spokesman Bruce Malloch confirmed this past week that 237 Sherbourne was vacated for “safety reasons” and is “currently being held for major capital repairs.”
(WE do know that some city owned buildings were at one time planned to be handed over to a native charity group- but of course that deal probably fell onto the back burner due to natives not being able to find govt grants to pay for the work to make the buildings habitable! So the buildings sit empty and rotting and waiting for a change of govt or for a wrecking ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
“The whole thing is disgusting to me,” says the feisty Bevan, 77. “It’s not just the people across the street (from me) but also the waiting list TCHC has for people (needing housing).”
(It provides “make work” for union Hogs- cutting the grass and shoveling snow !!)
I spoke to Bevan in the aftermath of newly re-elected Mayor John Tory’s first announcement that he intends to take “immediate action on affordable housing” in his first 100 days of the new term.
In his statement, Tory indicated he’s asked city staff to bring forward 10 sites — surplus city land — where affordable housing can be built and has requested the Chief Transformation Office to report on how red tape can be cut to speed up construction - the latter will be interesting considering we’ve heard virtually nothing from said chief transformation officer Michael Kolm, since he was hired 18 months ago at $130,058 to, er, transform Toronto City Hall.
(Perhaps Transformation Officer Kolm is trying to organize a seance to raise the shade of Rob Ford- the last major player to light a fire under TCHC? Certainly nothing less than dire threats will work on ENTRENCHED CITY HOGS!!!!!!!!!!)
(Some people will recall that right after Jackass John Tory was first elected to Silly Hall- he ended up in huge public outrage after he heard of the grand performance bonuses TCHC staff gave themselves! But that was 4 years ago and since then - Jackass John has learned to keep his mouth shut when city hall Hogs start splashing gravy at each other!)
Bevan feels much more could be done to house the homeless with what the city already has.
Which brings me to TCHC’s other vacant units.
It seems since I first wrote about this in March of 2017, the number of vacant TCHC units has actually increased!
(Well yes! Leaking roofs, corroded plumbing, fried electrical systems- all this means units get unhealthy to live in as the buildings decay! I recall going into a 26 story building on Redpath Ave a couple of decades back and the ENTIRE TOP FLOOR was vacant- nothing but puddles of water, mould, fallen plaster and rot! If you never fix anything then eventually it becomes UNUSEABLE!!!!!!)
In late March of 2017 3,540 TCHC units were sitting vacant while 177,000 people waited for subsidized housing in Toronto.
The tally of vacant units as of Sept. 30 of this year was 3,628, an increase of 2%.
(And LIE-berals will not wish to discuss how many of those seeking our not so affordable housing are illegals! Nor will city Hogs wish to discuss the 150 plus town house units demolished in the Jane finch area in summer 2018 after it became obvious that they were too rotted to salvage!!!!!!!!)
This is despite a call by Tory in March of 2017 for reports from Paul Raftis, the city’s general manager of shelter, support and housing and then TCHC CEO Greg Spearn to get the problem fixed. The reports ensued, along with plenty of excuses.
(The key problem at every turn is cash- and the lack of it!)
There was also much well-deserved hue and cry at the time from board member Vince Gasparro — who seemed to avoid the whole TCHC mess while he was co-chairman of Tory’s recent re-election campaign.
(NO wonder! NOBODY wants to discuss govt problems that CANNOT BE FIXED due to HOG GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(It is the CONSTANT PROBLEM- the city can afford EITHER to fix things or to supply Hogs with more gravy and gravy is needed to BUY HOG VOTES! So nothing ever gets fixed because buying votes is the priority!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The one thing that has changed under CEO Kathy Milsom and the current board is TCHC’s transparency, and not for the better.
Until the fall of 2017, detailed statistics — outlining the breakdown of rentable and non-rentable units -plus the reasons — were provided every month as part of the publicly issued president’s report.
That stopped this year, forcing a recent back-and-forth game with TCHC to acquire the same statistics provided freely a year ago.
Perhaps that’s because the vacant unit situation is still a mess.
(WE may guess that the number of unrentable units is increasing along with water damage from leaking everything- roofs, windows, plumbing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Two points about the rentable units stand out in particular.
In March of 2017, Gasparro was particularly upset with the number of market units sitting vacant–189 at the time– because they subsidize the rent-geared-to-income (RGI) units.
That has been whittled down to 107, although the number was much lower in August at 89.
The other major concern was the number of bachelor and one bedroom apartments sitting vacant — ones that could easily house the many hard core homeless now using respite shelters — and the unwieldy offer process to get people to take units.
(And WHY is the offer process so UNWIELDY? Could it be that most of the homeless are unfit for polite society due to drug and alcohol addictions or to untreated mental health issues! Are TCHC staffers quietly telling their political masters that “yes- we could let the homeless move in- but we would just have to evict them for disgusting behaviour that annoys other tenants - literally before they even got unpacked”?)
In the most current statistics provided by TCHC’s Malloch, some 729 or 59% of the 1,222 rentable vacant units are either bachelors or one-bedrooms.
Malloch also noted that 626 of the 1,222 rentable vacant units are “undergoing turnover” — either leased or on offer to an applicant. Asked how many are on offer at present time, he said “roughly one-third.”
THEN VS. NOW
March 2017
Total number of vacant units: 3,540
Number rentable: 1,590
Number non-rentable: 1,950
Includes: 326 boarded up (out of service); 1,405 units held for operational purposes and 219 units held for relocation purposes.
September 2018
Total number of vacant units: 3,628
Number rentable: 1,222
Number non-rentable: 2,406
Includes: 1,172 being held for redevelopment (either demolished or in the process of being demolished), 326 boarded up, 323 held for relocation purposes and 188 units held for community programming or for use by TCHC staff (for equipment storage or as a live-in space.)
Source: Toronto Community Housing
— Sue-Ann Levy