Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JamesBondo

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I think he means a "friend of animal rights" wants to go hand-to-hand with a trophy hunter.
While I'm not fond of the kind of sick cowards who trophy hunt, I'll give 4-1 odds on them vs. animal rightsers any old time.
I do a freezer full of venison and/or wild pork myself every year or so. I wish the buffalo were replenished enough to make hunting them open.

It is somewhat hypocritical of someone that is an advocate for animal rights to want to beat the crap out of a fellow human being.

I prefer the opposite:
- eat meat from the store, hunt when I can,
- and love (ie appreciate/respect) my neighbor.

I guess that makes me a bad person? It sort of re-enforces the idea that no matter how hard you try, there will always be haters out there.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It is somewhat hypocritical of someone that is an advocate for animal rights to want to beat the crap out of a fellow human being.
But ya gotta admit, it'd be funny to watch Pink Dreadlocks get dropped with a jab and a cross.

For me it's make the kill, thank my brother for giving his life, take what I need, and give the rest to the people. Very Indun.

I wonder if all the Pink Dreadlocks (who just WUB us noble red men), will ever get it through their heads that we're hunters.
 

Colpy

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But ya gotta admit, it'd be funny to watch Pink Dreadlocks get dropped with a jab and a cross.

For me it's make the kill, thank my brother for giving his life, take what I need, and give the rest to the people. Very Indun.

I wonder if all the Pink Dreadlocks (who just WUB us noble red men), will ever get it through their heads that we're hunters.


I WUB you. :)
 

spilledthebeer

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I WUB you. :)


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There will be NO gun control legislation enacted by any LIE-beral govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are far too busy defending their existing INSANE policies to be bothered with anything related to crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fighting crime costs too much LIE-beral gravy - so LIE-berals do as they always do- talk the issue to death!!!!!!!!!!!!


But they CAN ACT FAST on things that interest them- consider:


Here is yet another article explaining how Toronto city council is so utterly dis-functional. With some comments of my own in brackets):

City building a $2.5M pre-fab for transients in public park.

By Sue-Ann Levy. Published: September 19, 2018. Updated: September 19, 2018 7:44 AM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Toronto & GTA

So I now know why an “open house” for Fort York-area residents — held by city officials Monday evening — reminded me of attending a sales pitch for a new condominium project.

There were at least seven staff from Shelter, Support and Housing (SSHA), three from Fred Victor Centre, two Toronto cops, three consultants and two councillors at the splashy presentation trying to sell citizens on the creation of a $2.5-million pre-fab structure for transients that will be coming soon to a park near them.

Attendees were greeted by the plethora of staff wearing “Ask Me” tags, handed a glossy brochure with pictures of three supposedly homeless people on front and were encouraged to help themselves to plates full of chocolate chip cookies (to sweeten the deal no doubt).

This is what now masquerades as consultation with neighbourhoods, at least at Toronto City Hall.

It was abundantly clear, and the splashy displays confirmed it, that the Sprung pre-fab structure is a done deal and will be erected in Gore Park directly across from the Princes Gates as early as November, or at the latest, by the end of year.

Yes, you read that right: $2.5 million.

(Considering how often city estimates of cost for anything are at least 25 percent or more often 50 percent lower than the final bill we should treat this $2.5 million dollar PRICE GUESS with cynical SCORN!)

It will cost that much to erect and install the Sprung structure, which will have no windows and only artificial light. Such shelters have been used, according to a representative of the Calgary company, for the homeless in many U.S. cities.

(So how is it that last winter we had homeless advocates howling in outrage at the idea of putting homeless people into EXISTING buildings on the CNE grounds- and yet this winter- a TEMPORARY STRUCTURE that does not even have windows- is suddenly acceptable- AT THE ENTRANCE to CNE grounds?)

(And- if the structure is temporary then how will washroom facilities be provided? And how much damage will be done if or when the pipes FREEZE in that cold wind off the lake? The Sprung Co. Shelters have apparently ONLY been used in Yankee cities so far - have any been used in a Cdn winter?)

(And the city says $2.5 million dollars to erect the structure- how much MORE to stock it with beds and blankets and staff to keep order and etc- with no real cleaning or laundry facilities on site? Does this mean city staff will be burning fossil fuel frequently to haul laundry away along with other waste from temporary toilets and etc?)

(And as it is a “temporary” structure- how much will it cost to one day take down and dispose of? All while existing CNE buildings sit EMPTY!)

At most, it will house 100 people (the sign said 78 at the “open house”- but whatever it ends up being, that’s upwards of $25,000 per transient just to build it- not including the per diem costs of around $105 a night for each person sheltered.

(With the kind of money the city is throwing around they could get these people hotel rooms! If they were not to drunk and drugged up and crazed to be allowed near civilized accommodation- and that is the problem isnt it!)

Meanwhile, 545 Lakeshore Blvd. — a beautiful heritage building once housing Rogers offices and before that CFMT-TV– was opened as a temporary 24-7 low-barrier respite shelter on Sept. 5. Residents who attended the Monday session told me they only learned of its opening the week before or when they spotted three security officers in bullet-proof vests out front.

Once the pre-fab opens, this site will become a temporary shelter for women and couples.

SSHA spokesman Patricia Anderson told me Tuesday a total of three pre-fabs have been purchased- at $2.5-million a pop- with an option for a fourth, but didn’t say where they’ll be erected.

(One really has to ask if there are not some empty warehouses in the city that could be rented instead of buying these temporary monstrosities to be planted in multiple parks- RIGHT AFTER the October election is safely over and done? Or are the homeless now such a problem that NO landlord wants them nearby?)

There you have it.

I can truly say the handling of this whole respite care/pre-fab/homeless shelter file is not only out of control but is probably one of the best definitions of insanity I’ve witnessed as of late.

The city’s latest street census won’t be out until November but the city’s housing officials, Mayor John Tory and council’s virtue-signallers keep reiterating that there is an “unprecedented increase” in the number of homeless in the city. But I believe, having studied the issue for more than 15 years, that if you build it, they will come.

In other words, we’ve truly created a homeless industry in this city.

(Yes- the more facilities and nicer facilities that are supplied- the greater the lure to draw people from all over the province! And of course THAT IS THE GOAL! Our socialist city councillors are determined to hire just as many civil service union Hogs as they can get away with- secure in the knowledge that with the Hog jobs come the Hog VOTES that LIE-berals so desperately NEED!)

(And isnt it odd how utterly SILENT city Hogs are about the number of illegals in the shelter system! We were told there was a 35 percent increase in shelter use last winter- and we heard that mayor Jackass John Tory has been on the phone to Our idiot Boy Justin- whining about the cost of supporting the mess of illegals that LIE-berals have invited here from around the world- without ANY plan for how to feed or house them! Nor any idea how the illegals shall become self supporting given their general lack of language and education skills!)

(And LIE-berals certainly see NO real need for valid security checks on illegals either! It is enough for desperate LIE-berals that the votes of illegals are for sale- and LIE-berals intend to be the HIGHEST BIDDERS!)

What’s worse is that city officials keep ramming respite shelters into unsuspecting neighbourhoods thinking residents will simply embrace them because, well, it’s inhumane not to support the poor and homeless. In other words, the city’s SSHA staff think they have a divine right to do so and taxpaying residents don’t count.

(LIE-berals could resolve much of this homeless crap simply by rounding up crazy people and committing them for treatment! Additionally they could round up drug addicts and confine them till the physical addiction fades- this would give addicts who are currently a plague on our streets a fighting chance to get clean and sober!
Putting homeless drug addicts in jail is no more costly than dumping them in the shelter system! But LIE-berals who so happlily force crap on ordinary people see no reason to force treatment in drugged or mentally ill people!)

Trouble is, respite or low-barrier shelters accept anyone and everyone and have no rules. Those who operate them, as I’ve seen over and over again at 21 Park Rd., at Sherbourne and Dundas Sts., and with St. Felix Centre on Augusta Ave., there’s no concern about what homeless clients do once they leave the front door.

(LIE-berals have no desire to force even something as simple as good manners onto the “poor”!)

Councillor Mike Layton actually admitted to an attendee that city officials had trouble finding a location across the city because of “fear in the neighbourhood.”

As tone deaf as he chooses to be, it’s not because residents are NIMBYs. It’s because of the unchecked lawlessness around the sites.

I actually felt sorry for the people who attended Monday evening, as I listened to them being lulled into a false sense of security that things will be different this time — that shelter operators and city officials would have their interests in mind.

I can say from experience they won’t.

(LIE-berals are shooting down their own policies by this refusal to enforce even minimum standards of public behaviour on their homeless “clients”! The public is outraged that city poobahs would demand such a double standard of behaviour! At the same time as our taxes go constantly up- the proximity of these homeless shelters or “drug harm reduction” facilities DRIVES DOWN property values!)
 

spilledthebeer

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NO- "Loose" is also quite a common misspelling of "lose".


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Yes- loose and lose are commonly mis-spelled -but sometimes it is merely indicative of s typist in a hurry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We have much bigger issues to discuss here- such as our feather brained Bluebyrd alleging that Harper had a war going to oppress women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How utterly ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And quite typical of LIE-berals seeking mud to smear on others- no matter that the mud has to be FICTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey Birdie how is the LIE-beral dog and pony show called Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women Inquiry going now that EVERY BODY- including disgusted natives have noticed what aN EMPTY AND COSTLY POLITICAL EVENT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And how is it that native suicides have SPIKED two years after Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals took office????????????


Natives had a good look at what LIE-berals had on offer and DESPAIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article illustrating that natives have all the power they need to build better lives- IF they want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



File this one under AMAZING! The CBC has reported the following-and I have added some comments of my own in brackets):

First Nations teen solves remote community's drinking water problems.
A 19-year-old from North Spirit Lake First Nation is the key to solving a boil water advisory in place in his community for nearly as long as he has been alive.
Jody Porter/CBC tells us that Quentin Rae, 19, tests water samples at the North Spirit Lake First Nation in his new role as water plant operator. Quentin Rae, 19, is the water plant operator in North Spirit Lake First Nation.

The remote First Nation, about 800 kilometers northwest of Thunder Bay, Ont., has been under a boil water advisory for 14 years.

Now, a unique program spearheaded by the Northern Chiefs Council (Keewatinook Okimakanak), is allowing people like Quentin Rae to take the initiative and the responsibility for providing clean water in their own communities.

"I have to take care of the plant, make sure chlorine gets in the water to clean the bacteria," said Rae with a smile during his first week on the job at the end of April.
Quentin Rae, 19, files the water monitoring reports at the North Spirit Lake First Nation water plant. "I just graduated last year and they gave me the job."

The high school diploma is the prerequisite for the training provided by Northern Chiefs Council that will provide Rae with his operator certificate. Once the water plant in North Spirit Lake has a certified operator, the boil water advisory can be lifted.

But the program goes beyond the training.
'Think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him,' says public works manager Barry Strachan. We can't let him do that alone, we need to support him ' says public works manager Barry Strachan. You think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him — we can't let him do that alone, we need to support him."

The support comes in the form of a high-tech monitoring system installed in five remote First Nations in 2015. It provides Strachan up-to-the-second updates on water quality, sent to his office in Dryden, Ont. He can then help the local technicians work through the problem over the phone.

"We want the community to own and fix the problems," Strachan said.

"The best way to build the confidence in their own ability to run these systems is to let them do it and support them while they are."

Strachan admits First Nations need sound infrastructure in place first, before the monitoring and training system will work. The program has already resulted in removing boil water advisories in three other northern Ontario First Nations.

Meanwhile, community leaders in North Spirit Lake are pleased to be able to offer new opportunities to the young people.

"That young fella, he just graduated from Grade 12 and we gave him an opportunity and he jumped at it," said deputy chief Donald Campbell.

"I think he's very excited and he'll be a good asset for our community as he grows and learns."

Rae expects to complete his training for his certificate in June.

"It feels all right," he said. "I'm happy."

But Rae laughs when asked whether he sees the opportunity as a "job for life."

"I don't know," he says. "It's my first job ever."

(I have to say it’s a remarkable CBC report-just imagine-a young fellow from a reserve actually graduated from high school and then took advantage of the FREE training offered by govt and now he has the skills needed to help his community! AND HE has a steady job out of it too!!!! Who would have imagined such a happy outcome simply from going to school and gaining a skill?)

(Life on the average First Nation Reserve is so aweful that govt cannot find qualified white people to go to such places and operate the water treatment plants. And of course only 25 percent of natives actually graduate from high school and very few of them go on to post secondary education so the number of qualified natives is disturbingly low, especially when drugs and alcohol take their toll on `worker` attitude!)

(Add in endemic corruption on many reserves where money intended to keep water plants running is often syphoned off for stupid reasons like sending native hockey teams to tournaments in places like California or for sending native groups on Caribbean cruises; then add INSANE salaries for band councils-in one New Brunswick case a band chief was being paid Five Hundred Thousand dollars per year to over see a band of less than 500 people and it quickly becomes obvious why there is no money for clean water on so many reserves!)

(And sadly, even when there IS clean water, it is often not used. On the same day that CBC reported the good news about Quentin Rae, CBC ALSO ran a report out of the very troubled Kashchewan reserve- it seems a number of kids have been air lifted out to hospitals in the south to treat horrible skin rashes. I am not a doctor but the last time I saw a rash like that shown on the face of the girl in the news report, that rash was on the body of a NEGLECTED boy who I KNEW had not been supplied with clean clothes or a hot bath in months!)

(I have to ask if anything really works on the average native reserve. Especially since govt has AGAIN airlifted 300 people out of Kashechewan due to the YEARLY flooding! And govt may have to do as it did last year and airlift as many as 1200 people out due to the flooding-which occurs EVERY YEAR! WHY build a town in a place guaranteed to FLOOD EVERY YEAR?)

(What IS the cost to fly 500 or a 1000 people plus their clothing and pets out and back every year? A 1000 Km trip to some place like Thunder Bay? And then put them up in hotels? Why not fly them out and LEAVE THEM OUT-some place high and dry? Or should we assume this is a native revenge thing-making a MESS that white people get to pay for? No wonder CBC thinks its newsworthy when a young guy like Quentin Rae shows responsibility and common sense! Its so utterly out of character for so many Reserve inhabitants and the loonie LIE-beral loving leftists egging them on!)

(The worst of it is the reserve houses flood so often BECAUSE govt let the natives build the houses-and they took a little short cut that NO WHITE MAN would be allowed! When white men build in such a place-so close to sea level-they START by bulldozing up a nice HIGH pad of sand and gravel and build the house on top of that-out of reach of yearly flood waters. Native house builders did not bother with such an elementary step and the houses now flood every spring due to their elevation-which happens to be an average of 6ft above Hudson Bay sea level-according to an old Toronto (Red) Star report; so every spring one little ice jam in the river floods huge chunks of reserve land and houses! Oh well, its only white mans money that is paying for all this.....and it makes for nice photo ops for Our Brainless Boy who enjoys taking `selfies` with the victimized natives.)

(It was Jean Chretien as Dept if Indian Affairs minister under LIE-beral leader Pierre Trudope who first encouraged a bunch of drugged, drunken, emotionally depressed, chronically un-employed sots living on remote reserves that they were `first nations`.....and given the array of problems endemic to a typical reserve one ought to say `First Nation` with a sneer. LIE-berals are responsible for this mess-encouraging natives that we can and will pay them whatever they want whenever they desire it. But isn’t it nice that some natives (like Quentin Rae) understand reality and scorn the siren song of `free` money from LIE-berals! AND take responsibility for their lives!)

(It is entirely obvious that natives on reserves need some sort of help but what they DON’T need is grossly misplaced sympathy from air head social workers; nor do they need any encouragement to continue down their current corrupt and drunken and too often suicidal path!)
 

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We have much bigger issues to discuss here- such as our feather brained Bluebyrd alleging that Harper had a war going to oppress women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How utterly ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (spiltbeer')

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ut-harper-and-maternal-health/article1314279/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/harper-says-he-ll-vote-against-abortion-motion-1.801761

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-anti-abortion-mp-women-committee-1.4307997

So do you plan to continue deciding what rights more than half of the world's population are entitled to in order to bolster your hatred of Liberals.? We, women vote too and we are see people like you as dangerous to our rights.
 
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pgs

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We have much bigger issues to discuss here- such as our feather brained Bluebyrd alleging that Harper had a war going to oppress women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How utterly ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (spiltbeer')

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ut-harper-and-maternal-health/article1314279/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/harper-says-he-ll-vote-against-abortion-motion-1.801761

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-anti-abortion-mp-women-committee-1.4307997

So do you plan to continue deciding what rights more than half of the world's population are entitled to in order to bolster your hatred of Liberals.? We, women vote too and we are see people like you as dangerous to our rights.
Well good continue to vote liberal . In thirty years your off spring will pay the price . Don’t worry you will be dead and forgotten by then .
 

spilledthebeer

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Well good continue to vote liberal . In thirty years your off spring will pay the price . Don’t worry you will be dead and forgotten by then .


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Oh......the debts run up by idiot LIE-berals are actually the least of our worries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is their CRAP attitude to national security that is going to really HURT in the long run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider how LIE-berals are eroding the baility of police to protect us from terrorists:::




Canadian Bar Association Denounces Anti-Terror Bill

Here is an older article that illustrates just how divided we are by LIE-beral policy generally and by the gravy LIE-berals are selectively ladling out to BUY support from civil service Hogs and other special groups! With some comments of my own in brackets):
OTTAWA - The Conservative government's anti-terrorism bill contains "ill-considered" measures that will deprive Canadians of liberties without increasing their safety, the Canadian Bar Association says.


(Frankly, I say MUCH depends on your definition of `Cdn`! Is a person who came here a few years back and still has dual citizenship- with ongoing loyalty to the old sod- and a CSIS rap sheet that suggests the `citizen` is in regular contact with Muslim terror cells around the world really ENTITLED to full Cdn legal rights? To the chagrin of LIE-berals many REAL Cdns say NO!)
The bar association objects to the planned transformation of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service into an agency that could actively disrupt terror plots.


(OH yes- disrupting the plot before anything happens DOES make the legal work of defense lawyers much harder! How can there be evidence- either for the prosecution or for the defense- if the crime was thwarted and NEVER OCCURRED?)


(Though disrupting the plot before it happens DOES SAVE LIVES! And a parade of maimed and injured and outraged citizens makes for GREAT lawsuits and for RICH lawyers! Anybody know just how much the lawyers representing that vile bomb maker Omar Khadr got paid? And how much they clipped off that disgusting $10.5 million settlement for themselves?)


It argues the bill's "vague and overly broad language" would capture legitimate activity, including environmental and aboriginal protests -- and possibly put a chill on expressions of dis-sent.


(Expressions of dissent? Like that radicalized guy Cdn born Aaron Driver who blew himself up in a taxi west of Toronto after FBI tipped off Cdn cops of his bomb plot before he could KILL Cdns?)

(Or the two Muslim goofs who were let into Canada thanks to our charity and rewarded us by planning to derail a Via train off the Toronto Highland Creek Bridge- with the aid of an FBI double agent who betrayed them?)


(Or the Muslim `refugee` loon who attacked this summer in Edmonton?)


(How about natives protesting on Parliament because Atiwapiskat Cree natives pissed through a hundred and fifty million dollars of tax money that was supposed to build houses- without building a single house and now they are mad at govt because the money is GONE and there is NO new supply of gravy on offer! Is that Cree argument a legitimate protest? Or an abuse of tax payers patience as Crees demonstrate criminal stupidity and insane arrogance?)


(Should we be concerned that Yankee super pac political parties are funding Cdn environmentalist who are trying to kill all Cdn oil pipelines and shut down the Alberta tar sands- but these people see NOTHING WRONG with Yankee oil companies CONTINUING to extract oil from California La Brea tar sands- or from tar sands in Venezuela as well!)


(And what of the native groups whining about Kinder Morgan? Many of these natives DO NOT live anywhere near the route- but they DO enjoy harassing and black mailing white people!)



(Has any damned LIE-beral stood up there and looked over Highland Creek Bridge and considered what it would be like to go into a free fall that high, in a Via train derailed by Muslim Radicals? Or the Toronto 18 who planned to bomb Toronto Stock Exchange, machine gun parliament, behead the prime minister and generally wreak mischief and mayhem till cops caught up with them?)
(Where in this litany of planned and thwarted destruction and abuse of our money is there any legitimate dissent? If LIE-berals really sought justice they would be FORCING natives like Cree leader Spence to put ALL band expenses officially Online so auditors can efficiently and swiftly lay FRAUD CHARGES for epidemic native corruption!)


(And what of the Muslim charity that just had its status revoked by Our idiot Boy Justin? Now- Justin happily ships our cash to terror group Hamas. And Our idiot Boy has told us we should accept returning Isis fighters because they can be a “strong voice for Canada” - so how bad was that Muslim Charity in view of the proven LIE-beral patience with most Muslims?)

The most worrying element of the bill is a provision that would give judges the power to authorize CSIS violations of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the association says.

It potentially brings "the entire Charter into jeopardy, undermines the rule of law, and goes against the fundamental role of judges as the protectors of Canada's constitutional rights."


(This is NONSENSE since the ONLY people who would have to worry would be those acting as spies and saboteurs serving a hostile foreign power- and since Britain has had such laws for centuries, we CAN make an objective judgement as to how much genuine freedom is really at risk- meaning NONE- during what amounts to a WAR against Muslim radicals!)



The association wants a sunset clause that would see the bill expire and trigger a parliamentary review no more than five years after its passage.


(Stupid LIE-berals have made it clear they intend to continue awarding citizenship to anybody who can walk across our border- with VERY LIMITED security checks- in consideration of this- the need for ongoing scrutiny of potentially dangerous suspects by our cops will continue for DECADES- perhaps even for many generations!)


(A `sunset clause` will END security force scrutiny around the time that potential terrorists are starting to feel comfortable and free to act! The goofs who attacked Charlie Ebdo in Paris were BORN IN FRANCE and took decades to reach terrorist status! The Boston Marathon bombers took 15 years to reach radical status! So much for a 5 year sunset clause!)



The association, which represents more than 36,000 lawyers across Canada, released a draft summary of its concerns Friday. It has developed a full submission drawing on the input of experts in criminal, immigration, privacy and charities law.


(Oh wonderful! We get BIASED political input from Cdn charities that are too often FRONTS for various foreign lobbyists and hostile pressure groups! Even Yankees are not innocent in this- The Suzuki Foundation has admitted taking millions of dollars from Yankee `super pac` political action groups- some of them financed by Yankee oil companies who would be delighted if Cdn oil sands never restarted production as it makes THEIR oil holdings- INCLUDING the California La Brea tar sands- MORE VALUABLE!)


(And Yankee soft wood lumber producers have waged a decades long war against their Cdn counterparts! Sadly- these Yankee players are the mild and simple opponents! Other pressure groups acting on behalf of Iran, China and Russia to name a few- are also actively seeking to slant our news and opinions- for THEIR fun and profit!)


Association representatives are scheduled to appear before the House of Commons committee studying the bill next week.

The Harper government argues the proposed new provisions are needed to combat the threat of homegrown terrorism in the wake of two murders of Canadian soldiers last October.


(And of course we have had 3 separate Muslim terror attacks since those Cdn soldiers were killed! The first attack was in Edmonton and the next 2 were in Toronto- the van attack running people over and the Danforth shooter! The threat is real and ongoing!)



The bill would also make it easier for police to limit the movements of a suspect, expand no-fly list powers and take aim at terrorist propaganda.


(Hypocrite LIE-berals are of course using some of these C 51 provisions to prohibit the odious Omar Khadr from communicating with his radical terrorist sister Zaynab! When its needed by LIE-berals- to save THEM from potential embarrassment- then ITS FINE!)


In addition, it would allow much greater sharing of federally held information about activity that "undermines the security of Canada."


(Sadly- silly LIE-berals have decided to `moderate` C 51 by imposing a layer of LIE-beral political observers onto the CSIS activities- basically CSIS will have its hands tied and can ONLY WATCH threats develop- until and unless a LIE-beral bureaucrat decides the threat is serious enough to justify compromising the rights of some Muslim voters and organized crime figures that LIE-berals are diligently sucking up to!)

The information-sharing measures would permit disclosure of personal data to the private sector and foreign governments, unconstrained by the charter, and open the door to misuse, the association's summary says.


(OH dear me- WHY would we want to share important information with friends and allies? After all- as noted above- FBI has ALREADY saved innumerable Cdn lives- why would we ever want to repay them? |And of course if we buy jet fighters or missiles or any other fancy military hardware- we can be sure that Russian, Iranian, Chinese and North Korean “new Cdns” will be rushing to work with the new weapons- for the secret information that could be gleaned from such work!)


(LIE-beral anti Yankee values and disdain for so called “white privilege” is so ingrained they are willing to sell out the Yankees to our mutual enemies!)



It also says: the expanded no-fly list provisions would introduce powers to search computers and mobile devices without a warrant; CSIS's powers would be expanded without a similar boost to already insufficient oversight and review of the intelligence sector; the bill is being rushed through Parliament without enough time for careful study.



(Too bad Zaynab Khadr- the vile sister of Omar has ALREADY run afoul of the law by returning to Canada with a computer containing suspect information about Jihadists- with a second computer with more incriminating material brought here but left unclaimed by her! Apparently she was alarmed at the ides of CSIS connecting her to the contents of that computer! Muslims are so comforted by our credulous and gullible LIE-beral nature- it must come as a shock whenever Cdns take any real action against them!)


(And- Gosh- how awful that potential terrorists coming back from such delightful tourist hot spots as down town Mogadishu and Kabul might be examined carefully by Cdn border patrol? Especially since Yankee president Trump is making serious efforts to make sure Yankees do not import Muslim terror along with their Cdn softwood and dairy products!)


(If we want genuinely free trade then we MUST ensure that we ONLY import and export products that we want! Our idiot Boy Justin is IGNORING the Yankee terror fears and is instead pestering Trump to allow easier cross border movement of workers without bothering to consider the level of industrial and military espionage that countries like China and Iran are engaged in! And Our idiot Boy is certainly Not worried about Muslim terror cells in Canada!)



Neither the new disruptive powers nor the information-sharing provisions apply to "lawful" advocacy, protest or dissent, but many critics fear the bill could be used against activists who demonstrate without an official permit or despite a court order.


(A while back we saw native protestors from Atiwapiskat demonstrating on Parliament Hill in protest of Conservative demands that they explain what in hell they did with the one hundred and fifty million dollars in tax money they were given that was supposed to be used for housing. As there are NO new houses and NO receipts to explain where the money actually went, a cynical and frustrated tax payer is tempted to suggest there has been criminal FRAUD in Atiwapiskat! Cdns do not think we should swallow this crap without any questions!)


(And this has nothing to do with the Muslim terror that is at the heart of the need for C 51! Atiwapsikat band chief Teresa Spence may possibly be a fraud artist over that missing $150 million, and given the available information, a logical citizen will suggest that she seems NOT to have ANY LEGITIMATE grounds for dissent at this time!)


(Either Spence can supply us with some honest and logical explanation of where the money went or she must endure the hostility and suspicion of Cdn tax payers! And she ought to be the subject of an ongoing police investigation!)


LIE-beral Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney told the committee last week such concerns were ridiculous, saying the legislation is not intended to capture minor violations committed during legitimate protests.


(The ultimate irony in all this LIE-beral hostility to Harper efforts to thwart terrosists- is that LIE-berals are making serious efforts using their Islamophobia Human Rights Kangaroo Courts to SILENCE ordinary Cdns who are critical of LIE-beral policy!!!!!)



Stephen Harper. Liar. Dictator, Hypocrite. THE ONLY GOOD TORY IS A SUPPOSITORY.


(The above not so clever insult is the favoured signature line of Carl Gannon- the guy who leads the HOG union that administers the benefits for veterans affairs. He has told us- in a post he signed on craigslist- that he is HUGELY hostile to Conservatives because some of his union members have been laid off now that Cdns are no longer fighting in Afghanistan and thus there is less need or work for his union members and he is also outraged that some veterans affairs offices have had their union members fired and non union help hired as a cost saving move! (Imagine that- a union Hog who seems to think that injured and maimed Cdn soldiers are an economic LEVER for his union! But then the LIE-beral focus is ENTIRELY on GRAVY!)
 

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Well good continue to vote liberal . In thirty years your off spring will pay the price . Don’t worry you will be dead and forgotten by then .
Let.s see now, mostly the Conservates have brought the country into depression, which despite what you believe, the Liberals have spent us out of it. You have heard the saying " To make money you have to spend it?" The Con's attitude towards more than half of the Canadian popuation is dipicable. The difference between Liberals and Conservatives are exactly what the names imply. One tries to accommodate new ideas and the other religious ones from Tribal the era. So of course I don't worry about my children or grandchildren. The younger generations are pretty good at figuring out who to vote for ......in other words unlike some of the older generations, they are capable of (mostly) seeing the possible results of who they vote for.
 

JamesBondo

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We have much bigger issues to discuss here- such as our feather brained Bluebyrd alleging that Harper had a war going to oppress women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How utterly ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (spiltbeer')
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ut-harper-and-maternal-health/article1314279/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/harper-says-he-ll-vote-against-abortion-motion-1.801761
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-anti-abortion-mp-women-committee-1.4307997
So do you plan to continue deciding what rights more than half of the world's population are entitled to in order to bolster your hatred of Liberals.? We, women vote too and we are see people like you as dangerous to our rights.

And with that, I am out of here.

In order to have liberty, others must have it too. I have no doubt that others having liberty is something that offends you, Bluebyrd.

yet as annoying as spilthtebeer is, I have no doubt that he supports the concept of others having liberty.
 

bluebyrd35

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And with that, I am out of here.

In order to have liberty, others must have it too. I have no doubt that others having liberty is something that offends you, Bluebyrd.

yet as annoying as spilthtebeer is, I have no doubt that he supports the concept of others having liberty.
Does he really? I wonder how many men here would support taking away women;s right to birth control and abortion if it were their daughters or their wives who were raped and became pregnant because of it?

Just what liberty do you think I am triyng to take away? Sure we could all walk around armed to the teeth if Canada would follow the US gun laws. However, that takes away the right of the freedom of children to have a carefree childhood and the freedom of everyone expressing their fears and views. I lived in Quebec all my life. We went from families of 20 to 25 children to now very small families of one or two and some opting for no children.

So again what liberties am I trying to take away??
 

pgs

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Let.s see now, mostly the Conservates have brought the country into depression, which despite what you believe, the Liberals have spent us out of it. You have heard the saying " To make money you have to spend it?" The Con's attitude towards more than half of the Canadian popuation is dipicable. The difference between Liberals and Conservatives are exactly what the names imply. One tries to accommodate new ideas and the other religious ones from Tribal the era. So of course I don't worry about my children or grandchildren. The younger generations are pretty good at figuring out who to vote for ......in other words unlike some of the older generations, they are capable of (mostly) seeing the possible results of who they vote for.
Legalized marijuana ,. Good idea . I here there is a push amount young people and certain political actors , I am sure you can get solidly behind this idea as it promotes democracy and youth involvement . Are you prepared for lower age restrictions on alcohol or tobacco use ?
 

pgs

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Legalized marijuana ,. Good idea . I here there is a push amount young people and certain political actors , I am sure you can get solidly behind this idea as it promotes democracy and youth involvement . Are you prepared for lower age restrictions on alcohol or tobacco use ?
I hear .
 

pgs

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Does he really? I wonder how many men here would support taking away women;s right to birth control and abortion if it were their daughters or their wives who were raped and became pregnant because of it?

Just what liberty do you think I am triyng to take away? Sure we could all walk around armed to the teeth if Canada would follow the US gun laws. However, that takes away the right of the freedom of children to have a carefree childhood and the freedom of everyone expressing their fears and views. I lived in Quebec all my life. We went from families of 20 to 25 children to now very small families of one or two and some opting for no children.

So again what liberties am I trying to take away??
If you knew any men you would already know that the answer is very few with the exception of a certain religous sect who must remain unnamed .
 

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Does he really? I wonder how many men here would support taking away women;s right to birth control and abortion if it were their daughters or their wives who were raped and became pregnant because of it?

Just what liberty do you think I am triyng to take away? Sure we could all walk around armed to the teeth if Canada would follow the US gun laws. However, that takes away the right of the freedom of children to have a carefree childhood and the freedom of everyone expressing their fears and views. I lived in Quebec all my life. We went from families of 20 to 25 children to now very small families of one or two and some opting for no children.

So again what liberties am I trying to take away??


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OH POOR HYPOCRITE Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE ARE on to your Fake News and grotesquely selfish propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ONLY FREEDOM you are defending is YOUR OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



All you want is to maintain your special PRIVILEGES on the LIE-beral govt gravy train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for LIE-berals making us rich by running huge deficits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ONLY response to that crap is ONE HUGE BELLY LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Let me remind all you LIE-berals with those notoriously LIMITED ATTENTION SPANS that what Our idiot Boy is doing HAS BEEN TRIED BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NDP airhead Bob Rae tried to make us rich with borrowed money and it worked out so well that the NDP is POLITICAL POISON in much of Ontari-owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Rae Days disaster was so AWFUL that Rae was FORCED TO LEAVE his beloved NDP and join the federal LIE-berals- who wrre in such a mess they were willing to accept Rae as interim leader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So how screwed up do you have to be to let a DISGRACED REJECT from another party lead YOU?????????????????



And then Our idiot Boy showed up- a fresh faced and new and full of grand ideas about how best to RESTOCK the LIE-beral gravy train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But.........OH DEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All the gravy currently being offered by LIE-berals is WELL PAST its sell date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals offer up a can of worms and call us names if we refuse to recognize worms as CAVIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral Sunny Ways are brewing up HUGE STORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy is running the MOST COSTLY GOVT in Cdn history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- the idiot Boy is even more wasteful than his vile father Pierre- who holds the record for SECOND MOST COSTLY govt in Cdn history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pierre Trudeau offered Cdns a big Fuddle Duddle in Salmon Arm........and we are going to return the favour by sending his idiot son off with a BIG FUDDLE DUDDLE of his own next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JamesBondo

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Does he really? I wonder how many men here would support taking away women;s right to birth control and abortion if it were their daughters or their wives who were raped and became pregnant because of it?

That is kind of an odd comment from you. I don't know of very many women that have been raped, they all have firearms to prevent that from happening. But then again, you are against women having firearms, so your concern is probably justified.
 

spilledthebeer

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That is kind of an odd comment from you. I don't know of very many women that have been raped, they all have firearms to prevent that from happening. But then again, you are against women having firearms, so your concern is probably justified.


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Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bondo does not know many women who have been raped?????????????????????????????


So that means that Yankee writer Christina Hoff-Somers- the author of "Who Stole Feminism" - IS RIGHT when she details how Feminazis are DELIBERATELY LYING about the number of women raped in America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hoff-Sumers details how Feminazis RE-WROTE the definition of what constitutes "rape" in order to catch up many women who would be SHOCKED to learn they had been "raped"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Feminazis consider that a teen girl doing a little necking in the back seat of a car HAS BEEN RAPED - if her boyfriend slips his hand down her pants and touches her vagina without permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Feminazis note that such "rape victims" simply do not understand that they are victims and thus they are willing to get into that same back seat on another night with their "rapist"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we all know that young teens like to explore and experiment........we have all done it..........and anybody being honest knows that body parts that are off limits tonight may be put in play later on- IF the girl so chooses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It takes a special kind of LIAR top turn that into rape!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals and Feminazis INSULT and DENIGRATE REAL VICTIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!