On-reserve private health-care a good idea?

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
43,839
207
63
Ontario
People have moved around the world forever.

Who did you-meaning Indians, pay for the land?
Irrelevant. Any high school grad knows (Which is why you don't know anything about it), the Royal Proclamation decried that the Nations here, were the owners of the land. And would be negotiated with as such.
 

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
43,839
207
63
Ontario

skookumchuck

Council Member
Jan 19, 2012
2,467
0
36
Van Isle
We have various entities running private health care facilities across the country, why not the natives? If it provides a needed service there should be no argument and as was said, it shortens the line up.
What the hell is wrong with them being entrepreneurial? Most people have been wishing they would do just that.
 

skookumchuck

Council Member
Jan 19, 2012
2,467
0
36
Van Isle
No kidding. The issue lies with who's doing the wishing. They sometimes get what they ask for, and then realize a power shift is looming and that just won't do.


Politics is the art of deciding whose Ox gets gored without getting gored yourself.
 

dumpthemonarchy

House Member
Jan 18, 2005
4,235
14
38
Vancouver
www.cynicsunlimited.com
Who pays for something from someone when you don't have to? Did Indians roaming across pre-Columbian America pay each other when they sorted out their living spaces? No, they won their land by force. Oh, they made solemn deals, smoking, hugs, embraces, smooches, dancing, and marriages, and they still broke many sacred deals. Deals that were surely supposed to last as long as the rain fell, the buffalos buffaloed, and the rivers flowed, etc. How romantic! Someone should make a movie about these honest and upright types, it would sell.
 

dumpthemonarchy

House Member
Jan 18, 2005
4,235
14
38
Vancouver
www.cynicsunlimited.com
We have various entities running private health care facilities across the country, why not the natives? If it provides a needed service there should be no argument and as was said, it shortens the line up.
What the hell is wrong with them being entrepreneurial? Most people have been wishing they would do just that.

Because these entrepreneurs have delusions of making their own country. That said, they need better health care, but they ought to be able to provide to themselves first on their reserve, rather than sell it to others. Being a business, often only a small group benefits and the majority continue to live in poverty. I don't see the benefit of that.
 

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
43,839
207
63
Ontario
Who pays for something from someone when you don't have to?
The point is, as always, they have to, there's a contract.

Did Indians roaming across pre-Columbian America pay each other when they sorted out their living spaces? No, they won their land by force. Oh, they made solemn deals, smoking, hugs, embraces, smooches, dancing, and marriages, and they still broke many sacred deals. Deals that were surely supposed to last as long as the rain fell, the buffalos buffaloed, and the rivers flowed, etc. How romantic! Someone should make a movie about these honest and upright types, it would sell.
They have a word for what you just posted, it's called speculation. I'm more partial to the word bullsh!t mind you.

Because these entrepreneurs have delusions of making their own country.
1, Many Nations have never ceded sovereignty.
2, Many Nations have never ceded territory.
3, It's actually a fundamental human right.

That said, they need better health care, but they ought to be able to provide to themselves first on their reserve, rather than sell it to others. Being a business, often only a small group benefits and the majority continue to live in poverty.
I'll cite Rama as proof of the exact opposite.

I don't see the benefit of that.
There's literally tons of things you don't see.