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Not cleaning up pollution when we can is moronic. CO2 isn't a pollutant. I didn't sneer at anything, you're reading that into my posts. All I said was what you have done (while commendable) if done by everyone else, wouldn't be enough to achieve the 80% CO2 emission reductions the alarmists say...

Why thank you. You're making my point for me. Real savings! Exactly! Companies exist to make a profit. Anything which saves them expenses will be embraced. For years supermarkets have been replacing refridgeration units every year or two. Because they're environmentally concious? No...

Guess you missed post #47. "Course it was about solar, not wind but you should be able to get the drift. Well here's a couple more examples of the kind of subsidy solar gets. As if you didn't already know that. Kelly McParland: Ontario pays the price of environmental posturing | Full...

Uh, no. Label them alarmists because they're raising the alarm. I don't recall you objecting to the word "denier". :roll: You got a reading comprehension problem? OK. One of the things they said was how reliable and steady wind power is, with less downtime than conventional sources of...

What to do about global warming is a political question? I thought it was a matter of saving the planet, at least that's how it's portrayed by the AGW alarmists. Are you suggesting they're all extremists? (Of course we all know that the whole AGW scam is perpetrated for financial and...

I apologize for taking so long to get back but I've been very busy. Now where was I? Oh yes... I've demonstrated why it can't. No I don't. Lomborgs position is to not waste time and resources on actions we know won't work and focus on developing tech that will. Yes his position is reliant...

Indeed it's a state, but does it meet the goal of "saving the planet"? According to most alarmists, merely stabilizing the ppm isn't enough. YOU don't take transit???8O I would hope that you at least ride a bike. Considering how deeply you believe in AGW I can't conceive of any circumstance...

Yet whatever needs to be done, reality must be taken into account. Wasting money on known ineffectual "remedies" because you want to be seen as "doing something" about it isn't dealing with reality. The 50 year timeline of your report is much more realistic than any other alarmist claims I've...

OK, here is my critique. This will be a rather long post. First off, they don't try to do it in 10 years, which is intelligent. Anyone with half a brain knows that the 10 year warning is nothing more than a ruse to scare (or even panic) governments and people into making rash decisions thereby...

Patience Ton, I read it and I have comments but I ran out of time. I'll get to you this afternoon. Also I hate the way my posts all run together when I respond to several posts at once.

:lol: Dodge, dodge, dodge! You are so pathetic. I ask a question and you, instead of answering, ask me a question and require I answer yours before you answer mine. Where do you get the idea that's a valid excuse for dodging the question? In any case, even though I'm under no obligation to...

I have determined that there is no evidence that inactivity will have any beneficial effect in stopping AGW. Obviously that's no help. But, all those efforts, all that money spent, the effect of that on AGW is..........the same. I'm sorry but I fail to see any advantage to spending all...

See? I told you so! Still dodging the question, just like I said you would!:lol: Now you seem to be concerned because others are attempting and failing. You want Anna to dodge the question too?

We're talking about reducing global emissions by 80%. Can you demonstrate what percentage global emissions would be reduced if everyone did those? I wonder if you're comprehending the scope of the challenge. Reducing Canadas emissions 80% would be the equivalent of shutting down all industry...

I believe it's the same everywhere. But really, that garbage is a resource. It can be made into fuel at the cost of $80 per barrel. YouTube - Thermal Depolymerization A bit expensive at this point, but if municipalities would pay the same costs to such a process as they currently do for...

Nope, didn't miss (or ignore) it. Just haven't seen anything that "can achieve that goal."

Nice ideas from all of you, but that's just superficial stuff. We're wanting global solutions that would reduce emissions by 80%, and that's just not happening with those proposals.

Therein lies the problem. The required world wide ultimate reduction is 80%. Some even go farther. Redirect Notice It makes sense if you look at it from an environmentalist perspective. The goal must be unachievable because once your goal is reached your income dries up with your cause. If...

Let's suppose you need to cross a river, it's vital that you do. It's too cold and far to swim and all you have is a grappling hook on a rope that you think if you could throw it to the far side and secure it to this side you could cross on the rope. Problem is, the rope isn't long enough and...

That's rather funny, you re-defining my purpose in starting this thread. :-P I said something about waste? Refresh my memory. Yet another purpose, distinct from the above. Got any more? :-P You're starting to remind me of SJP. Obviously you are unfamilliar with Lomborgs position. What I...