Can We Feed the World Without Damaging It?

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I read a great article in the Grey Lady today, the last in a five part series of articles on genetically modified cropping systems. The article centers around two people that at a glance should be rivals, an organic farming instructor and a molecular geneticist who has been modifying rice genomes. The twist is, they're married. They wrote a book, Tomorrow's Table: Organic Farming, Genetics, and the Future of Food which goes beyond the polarization of their two fields and examines how to best feed a hungry planet, without further damaging it.

They advocate a mixture of techniques from both these fields, where they make sense to do so. I've found my own position on this topic to be between the two as well. A great deal of what they say makes sense.

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This is the void that GM crops can fill, they say. Environmental benefits can be seen in the developing world with even the current generation of GM crops. For example, farmers in China have quickly adopted cotton engineered to produce a protein called Bt -- a natural insecticide that is also heavily used by organic farmers. Within four years, the farmers' annual chemical use dropped by 156 million pounds, and related illnesses plummeted.


But the true, yet currently unfilled, potential of GM crops in the future will be to allow farmers to maintain or raise their current yields while working with a selection of organic techniques to reduce external inputs and improve soil health. Crops that more efficiently use nitrogen or water will go a long way toward achieving sustainable, industrial models of agriculture, they say.


While such nitrogen-fixing crops may be closer to reality, it should be made clear that they have not yet successfully been developed and have long been promised. It also remains questionable how much genetic engineering could really lower nitrogen use, said Thomas Sinclair, an agronomy professor at the University of Florida.

A great read. Article here.
 

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I read a great article in the Grey Lady today, the last in a five part series of articles on genetically modified cropping systems. The article centers around two people that at a glance should be rivals, an organic farming instructor and a molecular geneticist who has been modifying rice genomes. The twist is, they're married. They wrote a book, Tomorrow's Table: Organic Farming, Genetics, and the Future of Food which goes beyond the polarization of their two fields and examines how to best feed a hungry planet, without further damaging it.

They advocate a mixture of techniques from both these fields, where they make sense to do so. I've found my own position on this topic to be between the two as well. A great deal of what they say makes sense.

An exerpt:


A great read. Article here.

Tonington...I tried to get into that one but the old dial-up didn't like it. Will check it out later...maybe let it run all night!

Anyway, I think I get the gist of it from what you wrote. Very sensible. It's rather refreshing to hear that there is a sense of compromise in there somewhere. Very few things in life are ALL BAD or ALL GOOD. I'll get a more detailed sense of what they're up to after I get into that site, but it sounds very promising so far! I'm sure it'll be a long time before the mainstream media picks up on this, as it simply isn't sensational enough. But it is bonafide news, by the sounds of it.
 

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Can we feed the world without damaging it? Good question, and frankly I think the answer is, at current and projected human population levels, no. The root of all our environmental problems, and a lot of other problems too, is simply that there are too many of us. If we don't solve that one, nature will solve it for us, and it won't be pleasant. Increased agricultural productivity is at best just a short term solution, it'll just make more of us. Nature can absorb a certain amount of waste and feed a certain number of creatures of various kinds, that's part of its normal cycles, but there are so many of us we're overloading its capacities. I think mankind is a plague on the planet, six billion or more people simply cannot live at the level of consumption we in the west do, the earth cannot sustain that, but that's what everybody aspires to. It can't happen. Nature has ways of dealing with plagues, and they're not nice. Sooner or later, if we don't control our numbers a lot of people and other creatures are going to die horribly. A lot already have.
 

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Excellent topic, Ton. I too would like to read the article but am stuck with dial-up. I have major concerns about the prevalance of GM crops and the validity of their use. Will do my best to try and read the article.


A FIGHT TO THE DEATH

2009 was a year in which the biotech industry, Gates and their US Administration allies did everything in their power to drive the world down the GM road, but it was also a year marked by remarkable global resistance. It was a year too in which the truth emerged more clearly than ever about not just the severe limitations and risks of GM crops, but the viability of the many positive alternatives to GMOs - alternatives from which the profit-driven GM-fixation diverts much needed attention and resources.

The scene had been set in 2008 with the IAASTD report, produced by 400 scientific experts and signed up to by some 60 governments. That made it clear that after more than 10 years of commercialisation, GM crops had done nothing to help with the eradication of hunger or poverty, or the reversal of the environmental degradation caused by agriculture.

The IAASTD instead championed as the way forward: agro-ecological farming, and research conducted by the UN Environment Programme also suggested organic, small-scale farming could deliver increased yields without the accompanying environmental and social damage of industrial farming. The UNEP's analysis of 114 projects in 24 African countries found that yields had more than doubled where organic, or near-organic practices had been used. In 2009 the contribution of such sustainable approaches to cooling the planet was also widely acknowledged while news of Monsanto's attempts to dress up environmentally destructive GM monocultures as climate friendly earned it a worst lobbying award.

Monsanto wins worst lobbying award

But what was most remarkable in 2009 was the way in which criticism of the biotech industry went mainstream. Alarmingly for the industry, some of the hardest hitting criticism it faced was to be found in editorials and investigative articles that appeared in the likes of Scientific American, the New York Times, the Associated Press and, most astonishingly of all perhaps, the staunchly pro-GM journal Nature Biotechnology.

And in different ways they were all making the same fundamental point - the GM industry has been allowed to gain an unprecedented stranglehold over the use of seeds. An editorial in Scientific American, for instance, complained that "it is impossible to verify that genetically modified crops perform as advertised. That is because agritech companies have given themselves veto power over the work of independent researchers."

The editorial went on to note that, "food safety and environmental protection depend on making plant products available to regular scientific scrutiny", and Scientific American called on the industry to "immediately remove the restriction on research from their end-user agreements. Going forward, the EPA should also require, as a condition of approving the sale of new seeds, that independent researchers have unfettered access to all products currently on the market."
Scientific American condemns restrictions on GM research

A correspondent for an agricultural trade publication noted that nobody in the biotech industry could provide him with a single example of any other kind of product on the market that was protected in the way GM seeds were from scientific scrutiny.
Letting science do its job

And the science correspondent of the Financial Times - another solidly pro-GM publication - complained, "Imagine pharmaceutical companies trying to prevent medical researchers comparing patented drugs or investigating their side-effects - it is unthinkable. Yet scientists cannot independently examine raw materials in the food supply or investigate plants that cover a lot of rural America."
Seedy research restriction / Global food security

An article in Nature Biotechnology noted how even when research critical of GM did get published it was met by a wall of apparently orchestrated, ad hominem and unfounded attacks by GM proponents who, in the words of an editor for the Entomological Society of America, "denigrate research by other legitimate scientists in a knee-jerk, partisan, emotional way that is not helpful in advancing knowledge and is outside the ideals of scientific inquiry."
The intimidation of researchers whose papers suggest concerns about GM

And it wasn't just scientific enquiry that Monsanto was exposed as strangling. An Associated Press investigation reported on confidential Monsanto contracts showing how the world's biggest seed developer is squeezing competitors, controlling smaller seed companies and aggressively protecting its multibillion-dollar market dominance.
Monsanto's aggressive seed business tactics revealed in confidential contracts

Meanwhile disenchanted farmers pointed to how the GM giant is using its market power to raise prices for farmers and limit their access to non-GM seeds. And another new report showed GM seed prices increasing so dramatically that they have already cut average farm incomes for US farmers.
New evidence shows huge price rises for GM seed - summary by GMWatch

So in 2010 amidst the inevitable deluge of vacuous hype about GM being vital to deal with hunger, poverty and the impact of climate change, population growth, fuel scarcity and every other concern known to humankind, nobody should be in any doubt as to what's really at stake: control over science, nature, food and farming.

And over that kind of stranglehold, it can only be a fight to the death.

Claire Robinson / Jonathan Matthews (editors)
GMWatch
GMWatch: Portal - SpinProfiles
 

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It dosen't matter what else is done as long as the bankers grow rich off poverty and starvation. Even if their was only a few millions of us the rot at the top would keep the rest in line with the exact same insturments of macrosocial control. So the question is in fact can we save the economy without damageing it?
 

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For those who are on dial up, I can repost the article here. It's long, but it should load faster on this forum than it does on the NYTimes website.

For my part, I think Dexter is right. We've already gone past the point where our withdrawals from Earth's systems are balanced by renewal. I think the figure now is around 1.3 Earths needed to sustain our population on it's current rate of consumption. I think there are gains to be made, but ultimately our growing population is going to face some tough decisions about what we need, and what we want. Necessity will overrule our leisure at some point, or we will face some sort of catastrophe like Dex mentions.

Anyways, here's the article.



By PAUL VOOSEN of Greenwire
Published: January 4, 2010
Last in a five-part series about genetically modified crops.

Pamela Ronald and Raoul Adamchak have every reason not to get along.
Ronald, a plant scientist, has spent her past two decades manipulating rice from her lab bench, bending the grain's DNA to her whim. Adamchak, meanwhile, is an organic farmer, teaching college students the best practices of an environmentally gentle agriculture at his California market garden.

As Adamchak confesses, few have been more vociferously opposed to the genetic engineering practiced by Ronald than his organic movement, which has steadily grown in recent years to constitute an influential, if tiny, part of the U.S. farm system. So it can come as some surprise when Ronald and Adamchak let slip that they have been happily married for more than a decade.

Such a union should not be shocking, the couple argues. And a more modest version -- sans marriage -- must be considered by any farmer or consumer hoping for a sustainable future for agriculture.

Industrial farming, with its heavy use of pesticides, synthetic fertilizer and irrigation, is exhausting the environment, and with billions more mouths to feed in the upcoming decades, the problem will only worsen unless the efforts of organic farming and genetic engineering are combined, they say.

"The worst thing for the environment is farming," said Ronald, a geneticist at the University of California, Davis, who is best known for her work developing rice strains that survive two weeks of continuous flooding.

"It doesn't matter if it is organic," Ronald said. "You have to go in and destroy everything. So let's be efficient. Let's conserve. Let's be smart about it."
To spread their message to two communities that rarely speak in measured terms, Ronald and Adamchak have written a book, "Tomorrow's Table: Organic Farming, Genetics, and the Future of Food," which came out in paperback last month.

What Adamchak and Ronald pursue in the book is in essence a unified theory of farming. While critical of Western seed companies that have co-opted genetically modified (GM) crops for questionable business practices, the couple argues that both current and future generations of altered crops will, if responsibly managed, allow much of the world's hungry to be fed from land already degraded by the plow's slice and the tractor's compressing wheel.

"The point of our book is that you really need to look at the goals of sustainability," Ronald said. "What matters is: Are we achieving sustainable agricultures that can feed the world without damaging it?"

Ronald and Adamchak are not alone in their call for a more nuanced understanding of GM crops. Their work has inspired books by a varied clutch of professionals: an environmentalist, a historian and a journalist. The books -- Stewart Brand's "Whole Earth Discipline," James McWilliams' "Just Food" and Michael Specter's "Denialism" -- take advocates and critics of genetic engineering to task for what has become a polarized and dumbed-down debate.

Brand, who heavily cites Ronald and Adamchak, is perhaps the most incendiary in his work. While he made his name as a leader of the environmental movement decades ago, founding the Whole Earth Catalog, in recent years Brand has sought a third way, supporting "heretical" technologies like nuclear power.

He is full-throated in his defense of GM crops, writing: "I daresay the environmental movement has done more harm with its opposition to genetic engineering than with any other thing we've been wrong about. We've starved people, hindered science, hurt the natural environment, and denied our practitioners a crucial tool."

McWilliams, an agriculture historian at Texas State University and previously a critic of GM crops, said that during his recent research he has come to respect and heed the couple's message.

"I admire them for fighting an immense uphill battle," McWilliams said. "I cannot think of another issue that really sets the organic lobby [so] on edge. ... Their attempt to blend organic agriculture with genetic engineering is really quite visionary."

"They're looking into a tidal wave of opposition," he added. "Just judging them solely on the contents of their book, they do it with a great deal of knowledge and a very powerful argument."

Filling a void?

At its heart, organic farming has never been about opposition to GM crops, said Adamchak, who teaches organic production at Davis. Organic techniques -- use of natural pesticides, no synthetic fertilizer, limited irrigation -- should be seen as limiting farming's effects on the land than as a reaction against agriculture technology.

And there is no doubt that conventional agriculture, while highly productive, puts a huge strain on the environment. Most significantly, synthetic fertilizers derived from fossil fuels, used to load the soil with nitrogen, an essential plant nutrient, leach from fields into water tables, causing massive algae blooms in the oceans and contaminating drinking water.

Such strain pushes the limits of human adaptation and raises questions of how willing communities are to tolerate environmental degradation, Adamchak said. For example, Des Moines, Iowa, has a water system that filters out nitrates left from the region's massive corn and soy fields.

"It's cheaper for that system than changing the farming system," Adamchak said. "But it's kind of crazy."

Organic farms limit external inputs, as they are known, enriching the soil with alternative crops or introducing natural predators for pests. However, such farms are labor intensive and require larger tracts of land to grow yields acceptable to most farmers, meaning widespread acceptance of the movement could destroy more natural land and require a massive return of workers to the heartland. Currently, no more than 3 percent of U.S. farming is organic.

"It's a rare person that will get out and farm," Ronald said. "So, if that's true, and we don't have a massive return to farms," then centralized, highly productive farms will remain, she said. "But how do you retain that productivity without the negative impact?"

This is the void that GM crops can fill, they say. Environmental benefits can be seen in the developing world with even the current generation of GM crops. For example, farmers in China have quickly adopted cotton engineered to produce a protein called Bt -- a natural insecticide that is also heavily used by organic farmers. Within four years, the farmers' annual chemical use dropped by 156 million pounds, and related illnesses plummeted.

But the true, yet currently unfilled, potential of GM crops in the future will be to allow farmers to maintain or raise their current yields while working with a selection of organic techniques to reduce external inputs and improve soil health. Crops that more efficiently use nitrogen or water will go a long way toward achieving sustainable, industrial models of agriculture, they say.

While such nitrogen-fixing crops may be closer to reality, it should be made clear that they have not yet successfully been developed and have long been promised. It also remains questionable how much genetic engineering could really lower nitrogen use, said Thomas Sinclair, an agronomy professor at the University of Florida.

"Plants have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years to be very conservative with nitrogen," Sinclair said. "Since 75 to 80 percent of the nitrogen accumulated by a grain crop ends up in the harvested grain, I don't see how things can be improved very much."

Turning point seen

Despite the somewhat theoretical thrust of their argument, the couple's position is echoed by a recent report by Britain's Royal Society, which called for a "sustainable intensification" of agriculture using GM crops. The report couples its support with calls for greater public-sector research, responsible use and the need for regulators to limit the risk that GM crops could spread beyond a farm's limits.

Other veterans of the industrial farming models of the "Green Revolution" -- credited with saving millions of lives in the developing world during the 1960s and 1970s -- have seconded Adamchak and Ronald's message, notably Gordon Conway, the former president of the Rockefeller Foundation. Conway, who wrote the introduction to "Tomorrow's Table," has called for a "doubly green" revolution to remedy the green revolution's industrial excesses, counting in part on biotech crops.

Yet despite such institutional support and what Ronald and Adamchak see as their complementary aspects, there has been little openness in the organic community to their message.

"It's almost like the public grasped onto what I see as this very small sliver of sustainable agriculture," Ronald said. "It really was a distraction to the overall goals of what many people in the agricultural community tried to achieve."

Both see the turning point as when the U.S. Department of Agriculture established its national organic certification. The department's initial proposal would have allowed GM crops to be branded organic, a move that drew many thousands of letters of protest. Adamchak witnessed the revolt firsthand as the former president of California Certified Organic Farmers.

"Organic agriculture has been from the start a reaction to the problems generated by conventional agriculture," he said. "As long as [GM] plants are seen as being part of the conventional agriculture system, there is guilt by association."

Ronald tries to closely question people opposed to GM crops, she said.

"I always want people to be really, really specific: what don't you like," she said. "Usually it comes down to, I don't like Monsanto. That's not a forward-looking concept. They should be going to the Department of Justice if they want to stop Monsanto."

McWilliams, the historian, found much the same in his research.

"I have realized that people have deep, deep anger at the companies that own this technology and that profit from this technology," he said. "That is where the vast bulk of the anger lies. And on the question of the science itself, most of the laypeople I talk to ... really don't understand it.

"I don't mean that to be dismissive. It's just not something consumers have spent a lot of time getting their minds around."

Shifting the debate

Adamchak credits his openness to GM crops quite specifically to his wife.

"It took me a while to figure what her research really was," he said. "It seemed to me what is demonstrated that there are many people in the university looking to solve various problems in agriculture coming from a completely different point of view than organic agriculture."

When the couple encountered various news stories alleging health risks from the crops over the past decade -- notably flawed studies that alleged harm to monarch butterflies from Bt corn -- they had each other's expertise to draw on, Adamchak said.

"What Pam had access to was the scientific papers and research that had been done on this issue -- what the most factual information was," he said. "That really helped me to gain a balanced view of how [GM] crops are functioning in the environment."
Ronald has been disappointed that the larger organic community has not responded like her husband. When the book first came out, she asked Adamchak if they would have a lot of great conversations with his peers, to which he replied, "They won't read it."

"Sadly, he's mostly been right," Ronald said.

"There's no incentive for the organic community to read it," she added. "The marketing is going really well now, and the public has a certain idea. They falsely believe that sustainable means organic and falsely believe GE seed falls outside this."

The couple would like to see a new national sustainable certification established. Such a standard would likely face opposition from both conventional and organic farming, however, they said.

"One of the problems I see with conventional agriculture as a whole is it doesn't really have a vision for sustainability at this point," Adamchak said. "If you can establish one ... that's a vision that a lot of consumers can embrace and say, 'Yes, I'm contributing to a sustainable farming system when I'm buying this food.'"

More than anything, Ronald seems to wish GM crops were placed back into the backwaters of technical, rather than political, debate. One should not get hung up on whether a crop is GM or not and "just use the most appropriate technology," she said. In some cases, like her flood-tolerant rice, it will be advanced breeding; in other cases, genetic engineering.

While they argue for rapprochement, Ronald and Adamchak have left the details for how organic methods can be applied to GM-friendly industrial models to others. Promising research is being done at Iowa State University, Adamchak said, where their chief investigator into sustainable agriculture, Matt Liebman, has experimentally tested organic-style crop rotations that could be competitive with typical industrial models.

Much more research will be need in these areas, Ronald said.

"I think it's important to remind people that most of the arable land has been farmed," Ronald said. "There is fourfold less water available per person on Earth than we had 50 years ago. These problems aren't going away."
 

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Though I believe feeding the world’s population is becoming more and more difficult, the coming scarcity of water is just as pressing a problem, if not more so. Without water any attempt to grow crops in lands most affected by drought now, will no longer be possible - there will be no water at all.

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My thoughts concerning GM crops may be summed up by this statement, and the following answer.

Ronald tries to closely question people opposed to GM crops, she said.

"I always want people to be really, really specific: what don't you like," she said. "Usually it comes down to, I don't like Monsanto. That's not a forward-looking concept. They should be going to the Department of Justice if they want to stop Monsanto."

Being specific, it is companies such as Monsanto that I am most concerned about, not the science behind or possible benefits of, GM crops. The stranglehold that Monsanto has with its GM patents, the ferocity with which they police their brands, the illegality of their ‘black teams’ and the financial power to crush all who stand in their way, is what I am totally against. Beyond that, Monsanto has successfully infiltrated key government offices, placing their own people in positions which allow them to influence important decisions regarding food and agriculture.

“Monsanto’s past manipulations were mere warm ups compared to the virtual government takeover used to approve GM foods. Author Jeremy Rifkin, President of the Foundation for Economic Trends, says, “I have never seen a situation where one company could have so much overwhelming influence at the highest levels of regulatory decision making.”

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Not liking Monsanto, I would say, is a ‘forward-looking concept.' Exposing Monsanto is even more forward-looking, IMVHO.
 

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Sorry, Ton, I forgot to thank you for the article. I copied it and saved it for reference.
 

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The thing is, there's a lot of scaremongering about Monsanto that just isn't justified. For example, farmers who have the seed of GMO transplanted onto their crops. The famous example is Percy Schmeiser. He ended up with the seed on his crop, and Monsanto brought him to court because he didn't have the right to possess the seed.

Monsanto won the case on the grounds of patent holding and licensing. But when it was brought to the Supreme Court, the SCoC ruled that Percy owed Monsanto nothing. Because he didn't know he had the seed on his field. He can't have a financial advantage because he wasn't farming as if he had Round-up ready canola. He was farming traditionally, and there is no financial advantage to Round-up ready canola, unless you're applying the herbicide to your field.

This case sets a very important precedent. It's useless to bring someone to court when they don't know the seed is there, and you can't get any money from them.

Farmers by now know what is expected if they go with Monsanto's GM seed products. If they want, they can propagate their own seed, or purchase regular seed. Monsanto cannot patent regular garden variety canola. If that's what the farmer wants to grow, Monsanto can't stop that.

This is just one example of why not liking Monsanto, is simply not a good reason. It adds nothing useful to policy options moving forward.
 

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Ton, there is a lot of ‘scaremongering’ about Monsanto that is well justified. The case of Percy is one in point. It took everything Percy had, the invasion of privacy of his neighbours, verbal threats, and a court battle ably fought by Monsanto’s lawyers, before Percy’s point was finally made.

The point being, you cannot control seed from being blown across the road by the wind, where it then germinates in a neighbouring field. Such a simple concept yet the price paid for its validation was so costly.

Monsanto does not care nor will it ever care about people. It is all about money and monopolization of the seed and weed-control market with them. Any harm that comes as a result of their drive to dominate the world’s agriculture is simply not on the agenda. Their response to the harm done by Agent Orange alone is a telling reminder of the corporation’s moral deficiency.
 

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Ton, there is a lot of ‘scaremongering’ about Monsanto that is well justified. The case of Percy is one in point. It took everything Percy had, the invasion of privacy of his neighbours, verbal threats, and a court battle ably fought by Monsanto’s lawyers, before Percy’s point was finally made.

The point being, you cannot control seed from being blown across the road by the wind, where it then germinates in a neighbouring field. Such a simple concept yet the price paid for its validation was so costly.

Monsanto does not care nor will it ever care about people. It is all about money and monopolization of the seed and weed-control market with them. Any harm that comes as a result of their drive to dominate the world’s agriculture is simply not on the agenda. Their response to the harm done by Agent Orange alone is a telling reminder of the corporation’s moral deficiency.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think there is a lot of opposition to their scientific stuff, although that is an issue for some. I think the big problem Monsanto has is more of a 'corporate ethics' issue (Mowich calls it 'moral deficiency' but we're talking the same thing), or what they're doing on the business side of things, that gets people riled up. Some people don't think they should be able to patent 'food', and I question that myself. It could lead to real 'corporate control' of the world's major food supplies. Certainly, they need to be compensated for their R & D efforts, but there are many other ways to get to that. Or, perhaps that should one of those government things, as it used to be back in the 'good old days.'

Of course, Monsanto is not the only player in the game, but they're the one that continues to get the headlines, and justifiably so. The comfortable arrangement they have with the FDA (people moving back and forth between the two organizations) is way beyond a simple conflict of interest.

This is a huge issue that is hard to understand for many people, as it's usually only portrayed in the mainstream media in a 'headline-based' way. Under the surface, I think we're talking a potential global-wide disaster if it's allowed to just 'take its course', as I'm sure Monsanto would prefer it to.
 

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Ton, there is a lot of ‘scaremongering’ about Monsanto that is well justified. The case of Percy is one in point. It took everything Percy had, the invasion of privacy of his neighbours, verbal threats, and a court battle ably fought by Monsanto’s lawyers, before Percy’s point was finally made.

The point being, you cannot control seed from being blown across the road by the wind, where it then germinates in a neighbouring field. Such a simple concept yet the price paid for its validation was so costly.

Percy did pay a price. But the end result is that Monsanto won't go after farmer's who have possession of the seed only incidentally. So to continue to use the case of Percy Schmeiser as a boogeyman is nothing more than scaremongering. There are actual concerns, like monopolization, which are far more important.

That's one of the points Ronald and Adamchak are making. Spending energy on points that are irrelevant doesn't have anything constructive to add to the issue. It's simply adding noise.
 

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I agree with you completely that monopolization is a huge threat and one of the reasons I continually bring up Monsanto as they have labored hard to buy up seed companies thus making it difficult if not impossible for anyone to purchase seeds not owned by them.

I thank many of the smaller heritage seed companies who had the foresight to start saving seeds long ago.