Yes, There's Water on the Moon

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Source: Yes, There's Water on the Moon | Universe Today

Three different spacecraft have confirmed there is water on the Moon. It hasn't
been found in deep dark craters or hidden underground. Data indicate that water
exists diffusely across the moon as hydroxyl or water molecules — or both —
adhering to the surface in low concentrations. Additionally, there may be a water
cycle in which the molecules are broken down and reformulated over a two week
cycle, which is the length of a lunar day. This does not constitute ice sheets or
frozen lakes: the amounts of water in a given location on the Moon aren't much
more than what is found in a desert here on Earth. But there's more water on the
Moon than originally thought.

The Moon was believed to extremely dry since the return of lunar samples from the
Apollo and Luna programs. Many Apollo samples contain some trace water or minor
hydrous minerals, but these have typically been attributed to terrestrial
contamination since most of the boxes used to bring the Moon rocks to Earth
leaked. This led the scientists to assume that the trace amounts of water they
found came from Earth air that had entered the containers. The assumption
remained that, outside of possible ice at the moon's poles, there was no water on
the moon.

Forty years later, an instrument on board the ill-fated Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft,
the Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M cubed) found that infrared light was being
absorbed near the lunar poles at wavelengths consistent with hydroxyl- and water-
bearing materials.

M3 analyzes the way that light from the sun reflects off the lunar surface to
understand what materials comprise the lunar soil. Light is reflected in different
wavelengths off of different minerals, and specifically, the instrument detected
wavelengths of reflected light that would indicate a chemical bond between
hydrogen and oxygen. Given water's well-known chemical symbol, H2O, which
represents two hydrogen atoms bonded to one oxygen atom, this discovery was a
source of great interest to the researchers.

The instrument can only see the very uppermost layers of the lunar soil – perhaps
to a few centimeters below the surface. The scientists were looking for a signature
of water in the craters near the poles, but found evidence for water instead on the
sunlit portions of the moon. This was certainly unexpected and the science team
from M3 looked and re-looked at their data for several months.

Confirmation came from a recent flyby of the re-purposed Deep Impact probe, on
its way to rendezvous with another comet in 2010. In June of 2009, the
spectrometer on board also showed strong evidence that water is ubiquitous over
the surface of the moon.

Jessica Sunshine and colleagues with Deep Impact also found the presence of bound
water or hydroxyl in trace amounts over much of the Moon’s surface. Their results
suggest that the formation and retention of these molecules is an ongoing process
on the lunar surface – and that solar wind could be responsible for forming them.

Still another spacecraft, the Cassini spacecraft while on its way to Saturn, also flew
by the Moon in 1999. Roger Clark, a U.S. Geological Survey spectroscopist on the
M3 team, reanalyzed archival data from Cassini, and that data as well agreed with
the finding that water appears to be widespread across the lunar surface.

There are potentially two types of water on the moon: exogenic, meaning water
from outside sources, such as comets striking the moon's surface, and endogenic,
meaning water that originates on the moon. The M3 research team, which includes
Larry Taylor of the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, suspect that the water
they're seeing in the moon's surface is endogenic.

But where did the water come from?

The team from M3 believe it may have come from the solar wind.

As the sun undergoes nuclear fusion, it constantly emits a stream of particles,
mostly protons, which are positively charged hydrogen atoms. On Earth, the
atmosphere and magnetism prevent us from being bombarded by these protons,
but the moon lacks that protection, meaning the oxygen-rich minerals and glasses
on the surface of the moon are constantly pounded by hydrogen in the form of
protons, moving at velocities of one-third the speed of light.

When those protons hit the lunar surface with enough force, suspects Taylor, they
break apart oxygen bonds in soil materials, and where free oxygen and hydrogen
are together, there's a high chance that trace amounts of water will be formed.
These traces are thought to be about a quart of water per ton of soil.

"The isotopes of oxygen that exist on the moon are the same as those that exist
on Earth, so it was difficult if not impossible to tell the difference between water
from the moon and water from Earth," said Taylor. "Since the early soil samples
only had trace amounts of water, it was easy to make the mistake of attributing it
to contamination."



Schematic showing the stream of charged hydrogen ions carried from the Sun by
the solar wind. One possible scenario to explain hydration of the lunar surface is
that during the daytime, when the Moon is exposed to the solar wind, hydrogen
ions liberate oxygen from lunar minerals to form OH and H2O, which are then
weakly held to the surface. At high temperatures (red-yellow) more molecules
are released than adsorbed. When the temperature decreases (green-blue) OH
and H2O accumulate. Image courtesy of University of Maryland/F. Merlin/McREL
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petros

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What about cheese? did they find cheese?

So Richard C Hoagland was right? I'll be damned!

Next they'll have an answer to the the rolling rocks on the moon.
 

Tonington

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So how much would it cost I wonder for NASA/ISRA/whomever goes up there next to set up a water farm on the moon? Maybe they can get some surface chemists and engineers to build something to replicate and scale up the same lunologic(??) process.
 

SirJosephPorter

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A couple of days ago I heard that they have found frozen water on the surface of Mars. They have known for a while that water exists on Mars, but it was considered to be underground. This was the first discovery of water on the surface.
 

GreenFish66

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Wish one of these land surveyors could give us some proof that we visited the moon ..Like a pic of a land roover or something.That would be cool to see on google earth..Human alien artifacts..:lol:
 

Kreskin

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Wish one of these land surveyors could give us some proof that we visited the moon ..Like a pic of a land roover or something.That would be cool to see on google earth..Human alien artifacts..:lol:

It was all a hoax. They diverted attention while planting explosives at WTC.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Water is very heavy, to already have water on the Moon makes space exploration so much easier. The cost of transporting a pound of payload into space is about $20,000 per. This is some of the best news for space exploration in a long time.

If some of you posters don't have something intelligent to say, don't say it. Your filler will be more welcome in the fun and games section.
 

L Gilbert

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Water is very heavy, to already have water on the Moon makes space exploration so much easier. The cost of transporting a pound of payload into space is about $20,000 per. This is some of the best news for space exploration in a long time.

If some of you posters don't have something intelligent to say, don't say it. Your filler will be more welcome in the fun and games section.
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SirJosephPorter

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Water is very heavy, to already have water on the Moon makes space exploration so much easier. The cost of transporting a pound of payload into space is about $20,000 per. This is some of the best news for space exploration in a long time.

If some of you posters don't have something intelligent to say, don't say it. Your filler will be more welcome in the fun and games section.

Water is very heavy? That doesn’t make any kind of sense. Liquid water has a density of 1. That is not very heavy, sand or glass has a density of more than 2, metals, typically around 7 or 8.

If we look at water vapor, its molecular weight is 18. Compare that to the atomic weights oxygen 16, nitrogen, 14. So water vapor is comparable to nitrogen or oxygen when it comes to density. Carbon dioxide is much heavier that water.

So I don’t understand this statement at all. OK, maybe water vapor is very heavy compared to hydrogen, but that means nothing. Compared to most other substances (liquid or gas), water is not heavy at all.
 

L Gilbert

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Water is very heavy? That doesn’t make any kind of sense. Liquid water has a density of 1. That is not very heavy, sand or glass has a density of more than 2, metals, typically around 7 or 8.

If we look at water vapor, its molecular weight is 18. Compare that to the atomic weights oxygen 16, nitrogen, 14. So water vapor is comparable to nitrogen or oxygen when it comes to density. Carbon dioxide is much heavier that water.

So I don’t understand this statement at all. OK, maybe water vapor is very heavy compared to hydrogen, but that means nothing. Compared to most other substances (liquid or gas), water is not heavy at all.
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